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    Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
    Could the hacking of the DNC be blamed on stupidity and not a secret Russian plot?
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    • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 7 years, 3 months ago
      Rush Limbaugh's substitute host this morning claimed that Podesta's password for logging into his email system was -- "password" Yep, and we know how little the democrats care about cybersecurity, let alone proper handling of classified material. I'm an engineer and I work with computers every day, but I've never invested the effort into learning how to "hack," but I do understand the importance of selecting passwords that have "strong" security. "password"? You've GOT to be kidding me!
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      • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 3 months ago
        It is incredible that he was being billed as The Beasts next "Court Jester" to run the whole show. If the best password he can come up with is "password", it is a good thing "the Russians" hacked them. The people who really hacked them, should have gotten all the goods, then encrypted their hard drives and asked for 100 Bitcoin for the key...that would be an object lesson in economics...
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        • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
          The statists would have invented a new category of hate crime for that one, and a new cabinet position to administer it..
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          • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 3 months ago
            Well, it is already a crime, called extortion. The point is, they have not pursued it with any great fervor in the last 8 years, and it bit them in the a@@. Didn't the Obamanation create some "tech czar" or some such? As Assange said: "A 14 yo boy could have told you". I guess Podesta isn't into boys....
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  • Posted by GaryL 7 years, 3 months ago
    Why I am NOT on Face book! Got an email from them this morning saying my account has been reactivated and advising if this was not me to go to my old account and change the PW at this link.
    We can't trust anything on this interweb and I don't care who you are or how well you think you have yourself protected.
    Trump is very correct in saying if you want things private then don't put it on a computer. These Phishing A Holes have nothing but time to sit at their keyboards figuring ways to intrude. Off with their fingers when they do get caught!
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 7 years, 3 months ago
    One consolation is stupidity has no survival value. Left to their own devices the liberal establishment will self destruct. Just get out of the way and let them perish in their own juices. Our constitution protects the right to be a fool. It does not protect one from the consequences of being a fool.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 3 months ago
    How freaking stupid ,thank you idiots for allowing us to see emails of the satanic worshiping malignant scum that is destroying our liberty and our children and grandchildren 's future. To recap ignorant govt fool is told to change the password immediately and only reads that it is legitimate.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 3 months ago
    Security is a personal responsibility, however. You can't EVER outsource it to someone else. Not your aides nor your IT staff. YOU have to be constantly vigilant for scams, phishing attacks, etc. Blame the messenger tactics are the same thing that got you into the problem in the first place and why you lost the election, Democrats. But then, personal responsibility is something you shun like the Black Plague.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years, 3 months ago
    Everybody's talking about "Russia this and that..." but almost nobody wants to report what was in the emails. Cracks me up.
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    • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
      Nor did V. Putin say HE knew what was in the emails. But his statement kinda makes you think he might. I thought so, anyway.
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    • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
      Thank you. Does anybody really know? Does anybody really care.
      Putin was heard to say that Americans, in trying to implicate Russia, have gotten away from the real problem. The content of the emails.
      He didn't claim responsibility, just in case you want to make that assumption from his statement. (Deviousness?)
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years, 3 months ago
        Well, I think Assange has answered the question about Russia's involvement. Doesn't matter to the left. O is, reportedly, massing troops at the Russian border. Totally morally bankrupt...

        What's in the emails is pretty twisted stuff. It gives you a clue who's running this country. It aint good...
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        • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
          But what is in the emails? Or, better yet, where can I find that information? Is the source reliable?

          I agree with you that it seems as if the US is massing troops at the Russian border. And it certainly seems that way to the Russian people.

          I have said, and to important leaders of America, that putting ABM defensive structures in Poland, purportedly to counter an Iranian missile attack---which AT THE TIME was supposedly the intent, would be dangerous, because of the historical enmity between Poland and Russia. One inadvertent or unintentional, mistake, and, well, you know...And now the US is putting troops in Poland? Unbelievably paranoid. I don't think the people of Poland want them there.

          FIFTEEN days left!
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 7 years, 3 months ago
    An easy thing to happen to a busy person...but still stupid!

    The funny thing about all this is that the Democrats are spending all their time Squawking about how the Russians "Stole the election" never any refutation of the specific allegations. Remember when various Republicans have been accused of various wild and crazy things...things that are obviously ridiculous....the Dems have said on more than one occasion...."It is not the facts but the nature of the accusations that matter"!!! WTF!!!
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    • Posted by NealS 7 years, 3 months ago
      According to the Dems latest theory, self incrimination just can't happen. If you disclose your guilty of a crime, for example murder, and you or someone else blatantly expose all the absolute proof, then you just can't be held liable for the murder because everyone already knows you did it.. I wonder how that would work for them with video evidence, have they got an excuse for that too? They want to live in a country where it's no longer the crime that's punishable, it's how it was disclosed that counts, but only for democrats.. How does this all relate to evidence obtained illegally? Does it have anything to do with being charged with a crime first, before any evidence is known?
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      • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
        I would think the neocons as just as guilty of this as the democrats, NealS. It's the unethical mindset of the political class, that they are better than the lesser beings who just work to survive and therefore shouldn't be held accountable for their mistakes, whether they are against specific laws, or unconstitutional actions, or legal, complete foobars (like meddling in foreign wars that results in many American deaths without reason.)
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        • Posted by evlwhtguy 7 years, 3 months ago
          Typical liberal response....
          1...."They all do it"
          2.....set up a moral equivalency between a republican jaywalking and a democrat committing murder.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
            Are you saying that the looter neocons are not guilty of covering up their illegal acts, mistakes, and complete FUBARs? Going to war on false pretenses and trying to cover it up is not jaywalking.
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            • Posted by evlwhtguy 7 years, 3 months ago
              Same answer as before....you are making my point.
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              • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
                It appears that you are concluding from my comment that I excuse liberals for their acts because I also recognize that neocons have committed other acts that also are unlawful, stupid, unethical, and/or unconstitutional. I don't excuse liberals nor do I support liberals in their irrational causes. I hold all public servants regardless of party affiliation or alleged left-right political stance to the same ethical standards. You have completely misunderstood and misrepresented my comments. (Or I have completely misundertood your point;^)
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                • Posted by evlwhtguy 7 years, 3 months ago
                  I was referring to your response as a typical liberal response, I did not intend to infer that you were in fact what one would typically refer to as a liberal. Although it would certainly be easy to infer that from my comment. Unfortunately in the popular media, the scenario I posed is absolutely correct.....You are correct though in describing both sides as looters. Our buddies the Democrats are actually the traditional party of war.....The Republicans have had a 40 year dalliance with it...hopefully the Trumpster will cause the party to go back to its smaller government [which means anti war] roots. I am not however holding my breath, I suspect you also are likewise not holding yours on this particular subject.
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      • Posted by amhunt 7 years, 3 months ago
        Good points.
        I have on occasion wondered why "illegally gained evidence" is inadmissible. It seems to me that the evidence must stand regardless of how it was obtained and that a new crime (the "illegal gaining") now needs investigating.
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        • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago
          I agree. Leaks are a GOOD thing when they uncover things that bad people try to hide. I could care less if its Russia that finds out of about it and shares it with us.
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        • Posted by evlwhtguy 7 years, 3 months ago
          I am with you. What the heck difference does it make? I think that this is part of a Quid-pro-Quo for the police...IE: The court will shield you from inadvertent mistakes in gathering evidence or conducting you office...in compensation the only evidence that can be used is "Officially" sanctioned evidence gathered the "Correct" way. The court can however use "Illegally" obtained evidence if a government official is not the one who uncovered it.
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          • Posted by Maritimus 7 years, 3 months ago
            Then it seems that you would condone a police squad breaking into my hose, rampage through all of it in an attempt that they might find some evidence useful to them in a case against one of my employees. And when they do not find it, just: "Sorry! We were wrong."? Absurd!
            EDIT: added a comma
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            • Posted by evlwhtguy 7 years, 3 months ago
              How did you manage to construe like that, from my explanation of what happens under the current system? That would be like me explaining that one can get wet by going out in a rainstorm without an umbrella and then suggesting that I was requiring everyone to carry one and that maybe I was shill for "Big umbrella"!.
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          • Posted by amhunt 7 years, 3 months ago
            I hadn't thought of the "quid-pro-quo" angle. Also I did not know of the "illegally" obtained but not by a government official angle. One can see where the reasoning is going but it leads to very complicated issues. For example: the government pressured informer committing the illegal act -- is the government culpable? And if so, is the evidence no longer allowed? It seems to me our view is simpler and far more just.
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            • Posted by evlwhtguy 7 years, 3 months ago
              To answer your last question...think about Randy Weaver and Ruby Ridge....that whole BS disaster which ended up with his son and wife killed by the feds all started out because the ATF conned him in to sawing off a shotgun!!! That could be considered entrapment....but if the thing hadn't blown up the way it did, ol Randy would have ended up in jail for selling a sawed off shotgun. As it was with all the killings, they paid Randy off to make it go away. The feds con people in to stuff all the time.
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              • Posted by amhunt 7 years, 3 months ago
                It does get nasty when "the law" regards itself as being "above the law".
                1) By what reasoning is a sawed off shotgun illegal? Seems like a great defensive weapon to me.
                2) I think conning someone into doing something illegal is a crime and down right evil.
                3) I also think this sort of "paying off" is criminal too.
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                • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
                  On 1) It isn't illegal in the US unconstitutional gun laws. It just has an unreasonable tax applied to its registered ownership (and transfer.)
                  On 2) I agree. Its unethical and should be illegal to do so.
                  On the BATF/FBI muders against Randy Weaver and family the murderers and the officers who gave the order should be impaled in front of the agencies' headquarters in the Dark Center.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago
    Liberals are so arrogant that I am not surprised that they just overlooked how to protect their emails.
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    • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
      I like that. Lesson to be learned by conservatives in the know-your-enemy category. In his arrogance he is gullible. And he could easily be caught off guard.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 3 months ago
    Sorry, but this is just more "let's find anyone to blame beyond us". You can bet that his was not the only account they got in on, and was the result of the new "normal" in the web: keep throwing the hooks out there and see what you roll in. No one has mentioned how the Chinese have managed to produce almost everything we have, and improved it, for 20 years, because they have been doing this much better, and rarely get caught. Just another dirty secret, since if they told the truth "no one would stand for it".
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
      I think it's more that the Chinese manufacturers do not respect intellectual property laws and they knock off everything, gradually improving products until they can compete on quality in addtion to price. There probably is some higher tech theft in order to duplicate the manufacturing process.
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      • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 3 months ago
        That is all true, however, they have been known to get anything they can, through theft or purchase. The only F113 stealth fighter ever shot down was found in China by a satellite where they were examining it after the Bosnian s sold it to them. There is a show called :What on Earth" that had that as one of the weird things found by satellite. Also the MK48 AdCap and Tigerfish torpedoes have been manufactured under Chinese names, and that would require a wee bit more than copying.
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