What took you so long? My wife and I left California for Nevada in 1990, and California's bloated government was a major reason for the move.

I have been a California resident for all of my 80 years. Now I must consider leaving the "golden state" because it has become so hostile to anyone that is more of a maker than a taker. I am working on a multi-million dollar project that will provide many jobs and a significant tax base but it is being largely funded by people in Texas. They have been trying to convince me to move all of my operation to Huston and with the most recent outrages in California I am inclined to accept their offer. I love what California used to be but it as deteriorated beyond recognition. It is sad that a pleasant climate attracts so many moochers.

We did it 22 years ago. The future looked bleak for living in California. A beautiful state, but.....
"The state is like granola, once you get rid of the nuts and fruits all you have left are the flakes."

The numbers should be unnerving native Californians. The state has lost over 140,000 more legal residents than have entered the state just this last year. The reasons given are high taxes, over regulation, increasing crime rates, high cost of living, increasing restrictions on 1st and 2nd amendment rights.

However, the population appears to be increasing, with high numbers of invaders from countries south of the border and elsewhere. I would say the Reconquista is successful, except that Hispanics sans legal documents are being overtaken by other "unhappy wanderers" from Africa, the Middle East, and China. Sooner or later things will collapse, but the crazies bent on destroying the state seem oblivious.

You might consider some of the less obvious places to move to:
North Central Nebraska - Knox County and Counties West of there - good people - virtually no crime.
Dakota Dunes, SD - 7% crime rate of nation as a whole. North and West of there is the freshest air you will ever find.
Oklahoma City, OK - South end of town is wall to wall factories. You're in a solidly conservative state.
North and NE Mississippi - Undergoing a dramatic building phase with new factories coming in and Oxford building like crazy.
NE Missouri - Smaller towns - you can buy houses all day long for next to nothing as there is a general population decline with younger people moving to KC, Columbia, and elsewhere. People from larger cities and California in particular believe I'm lying when they hear about houses and lots selling for much less than what lots cost other places.

Just providing some other ideas from my experience.

Dennis May

I'm going to Idaho or Utah, wife has 7 yrs, 11 months, 3 days left to minimum retirement age. Buying land in Idaho I anticipate, building a large building a couple of years prior that can fit the fifth wheel, workshop and a loft of some sort and use it a couple of times a year before to get the well and septic completed. We'll be gone an hour after that, selling the house a few months prior. Live in the fifth wheel (protected by the larger building/barn) while retirement house is built.

The only 'good' thing about California has been our incomes and real estate, we'll retire at 55, but not staying a second longer.

Fortunately, the youngest kid is 23, and we live in an unincorporated area, I'm immune to the nanny state to some extent.

Looking forward to elk hunting every year, trips to Alaska and other points unknown for weeks or months. Buying the right truck for it in a couple of years, a 2500 or 3500hd duramax that can run on vegetable oil if it has to while pulling a 1000 sq fifth :)

Hello Abaco,
Parental rights are becoming non-existent. Children are wards of the state and parents must suck it up, pay homage to the state and kiss the ring. Too bad such a beautiful state is run by big brother to such a degree.
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/20...
Respectfully,
O.A.

It would be interesting to see this Calexit thing come to pass and then see how long it would last without DC's money. Oh wait, then they could apply for foreign aid! Oooo, they are smarter than I thought. Phil M get out of there while you can,

I have one foot in Florida from New Jersey (almost as bad as California) ... but my kids and grandkids are in NJ.... so it's difficult

Me dino has an idea.
Change "Hotel California "into "Going Galt From California" and the lyrics of the song too.
Me dino too busy getting ready for Christmas to think any more about that.
Be my guest if any of youse got time for that.

LaLaLand...paradised ruined ....

time to let the state become its own country. then businesses can refuse to trade with them.

When considering Florida, shoot me a personal message. Brevard County, Florida is paradise. 74 and clear today. No income tax.

I moved from California to Texas and from Texas to California. The reason for the first is that chemical engineers tend to do well in Texas. The reason for the second was a personal circumstance, and the fact that I love to surf.

Recently, I wrote a piece on this subject that I suspect my fellow Galters will enjoy: https://fee.org/articles/stay-east-yo...

I want to leave CA too, but I need to find the right job first. Preferably in NH.

The light bulb on this brightened for me when I was having a conversation with an architect colleague of mine (also an Ayn Rand fan). I was showing him photos of prairie-style homes and saying I want to have one someday. He said, "You can't build that in California. Doesn't comply with our Energy Code." And, he's right. I did own a beautiful Streng home once, and that's close. But, I want more glass and a beautiful view. Can't be done in Cali anymore unless you are very connected...

It sounds like to me that the producers in California are moving and should move as soon as possible. When they do the entire system will collapse. I say let them secede.

Abaco, check out the latest article from IBD that I just posted. You will like!

There is a Law of the Land and Law of the water. You don`t have to contract with them. . What do you think of that?
Humans Controlled by Admiralty Maritime Law - Jordan Maxwell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRjoM...

At-A-Boy...vote with your feet while you can.

I would go Galt from CT if I wasn't stuck within a real estate Market that's down right now.

Try Utah (outside of Salt Lake City) if you are looking for traditional family values. Salt Lake seems to be trying to prove they are the same as everybody else. We left the People's Republic of California a couple of years ago and are happy with the change. The winters are a bit colder.