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Revolution

Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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According to Karl Marx, there can be no change without a revolution. But does that always need to mean the use of force? Trump claims that his win was a movement. That the "fly over country" people were tired of remaining unheard and taken for granted. In state after state they came out in droves to hear Trump, who spoke to the very things they wanted -- no, make that NEEDED to hear. Those big rallies turned into votes, first in primaries, then for President. Wasn't that that a revolution? Trump represents an entirely new type of candidate which translates into an entirely new kind of President. Not a lawyer, but an accomplished business man. Not a smooth orator, but a kitchen table speaker wearing his heart on his sleeve. Not a cautious person putting forth a careful agenda, but boldly announcing what his plans were and confidently telling the people that, not only will it be done, but it will be done quickly.

Is he just a good actor? Is this another "All The King's Men?" Will he become a dictator? Or is he an honest revolutionary who truly is, "what you see, is what you get?" If he carries out even half of what he claims, I think history might just call it the "Trump Revolution."


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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The word "Revolution" is usually provocative, which is why I made it the topic. I was interested to know how far the Gluch thought Trump would go relative to his speeches.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    First of all, let's go back to Wilson. From that point forward is when the seeds of progressivism started to grow, and was beginning to get taught in schools. As to Trump, really, who knows. Right now he's an unknown factor, but we'll probably have a handle on him by around April. He could be revolutionary, or just a bump in the road.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is what has happened to this point. So far, Trump, as far as I can see, has not exhibited the attitude you describe, but he's not yet in office. I'll withhold judgment until April Fool's Day.
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  • Posted by GaryL 8 years, 9 months ago
    I am mildly depressed! If this is in fact the revolution it is not the one I have been prepping for but I certainly have been rather cheery these days. It is a hell of a thing watching CNN and all the others with such sadness and LMAOROTF!
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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 9 months ago
    Trump is a pragmatist...he will tell you what he thinks you want to hear and then do what he wants to...

    the vote was a rejection of the last 8 years...not a revolt towards anything...you need a consistent, logical, rational philosophy for that...current politicians are devoid of that...

    we slide 10 steps toward fascism...we back away 3 steps...eventually you find yourself in an irreversible situation...prepare...
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  • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 9 months ago
    In which way is Trump's win a "revolution"? I agree that several of his policies are radically different from the America hating Liberals/Progressives and their Terrorist-in-Chief, but those policies are really just a return to common sense and national self-preservation. The restriction of illegal immigration that is draining the public treasury, the end to importation of Muslims whose openly declared goal is the institution of Sharia in the US, the ending of environmental self-circumcision - those are not revolutionary theories; they are a last-gasp effort prior to our total collapse and becoming one huge Venezuela. Perhaps that is precisely why the self-loathing Progressives are so upset - they practically tasted the long awaited collapse and it escaped from their choking grasp. But in terms of economic policy or real human, e.g., personal rights, Trump is no revolutionary. He is a product of Big Government, he intends to keep socialized medicine (not as bad as Obamacare, since that one is geared only for the benefit of his voting contingent) and he does not believe in free trade. To be fair, his declared stance on the Second Amendment is refreshing.

    Compared to the steady slide into the socialist abyss that arguably began with Bush I (arguably, since we should really go back to FDR and LBJ, if not Wilson), for a drowning man any gasp of air is refreshing, even if it is permeated with socialist stench. But, really, Trump is no revolutionary and certainly not in the class of the Founding Fathers. But I do welcome him after the Muslim terrorist leaves the White Castle, especially if he also puts the Evil Witch in jail.
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 9 months ago
    unless trump policies can actually start a major change in the country which will take a few years, but if it does take hold revolution is not going to happen. however, if ultimately the way things are in the country now continue regardless of what is said by him and his cohorts revolution is possible. hungry people like hungry animals in the wide can and do get violent as can be observed in countries around the world where people are not able to fend for themselves. of course that is the direction our illustrious government has been working towards as can also be observed. now can trump cause a change of direction? only time will tell.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thats true about dictators. The purpose of dictatorship is to enrich the dictator.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting the term "revolution". WAs that chosen to indicate that change just brings you back to where you started?? It sure does in South American countries.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You got it right !! BTW, he has said he doesnt trust the secret service and has his OWN security. Good idea. I wouldnt trust a bunch of security people hired by Obama either.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago
    I say it is a peaceful revolution. Look at the intense hatred of Trump by the "other half" of the populace. They had their way for 8 years with Obama's racism, liberalism, muslim pandering, and inefficient overspending government. They know their game is under attack.

    Not that I am a fan of mob rule, at least revolution is somewhat peaceful here in the USA (except for the riots of the entitled people).

    I see Trump circling the wagons in the republican party to stave off the attacks by the liberals that are coming. The swamp NEEDS to be drained, and I hope he is able to do it.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago
    I wouldn't put too much stock in any kind of "mandate" talk. This election was the prime example of choosing the lesser of two evils and the lesser of the two worst candidates either party could have put forth. I don't trust Trump to do anything more than attempt to use his new power to enrich himself. My only hope is that he will actually empower his Cabinet to make decisions based on their expertise and won't just hire them to ignore them like Obama.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Metaphors are amazing. It allows one to speak to many different folks in a different way for each.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Talk about taking the long way around to get to the same conclusions. Here I am, trying to be sober and to the point and you even out-metaphore me.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yep...got it but still think the trend to abandon our 13 inch wheels and tires in favor of 22's is an attempt to lengthen the cycle although the trend toward black wheels kinda undermines that.

    Cultural metaphor's...Laughing...
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My point was that something can be revolutionary without being bloody. Many new paradigms are revolutionary in concept and action. My former publications were revolutionary in that no one had ever done anything like them before. Trumps's revolution is just that. Our electoral system has become mired in the same performance to the point where both parties acted like some kind of pre-ordained Kabuki theater, and nothing was being done for veterans, etc. and increasing monies spent on things when the only reason for it was to pander to various groups in order to get re-elected.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago
    "Trump claims that his win was a movement."
    Yep it was...it was a bowl movement inwhich we shit liberal crap, therefore cleansing the body of stupidity.

    As for "revolution", well I guess we have completed one, only to find ourselves here again.
    Maybe it's time to trade in those 13 inchers for some 22's...maybe we can lengthen the cycle a bit.
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