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Desperation, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 7 years, 4 months ago to Government
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Since its ascension in the 1950s, the biggest threat to the Deep State has not been its many and manifest failures, but rather what the naive would regard as its biggest success: the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. Much of the military-industrial complex was suddenly deprived of its reason for existence—the threat was gone. However, a more subtle point was lost.

The Soviet Union has been the largest of statism’s many failures to date. Because of the Deep State’s philosophical blinders, that outcome was generally unforeseen. The command and control philosophy at the heart of Soviet communism was merely a variant on the same philosophy espoused and practiced by the Deep State. Like the commissars, its members believe that “ordinary” people are unable to handle freedom, and that their generalized superiority entitles them to wield the coercive power of government.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 4 months ago
    Good article, sll, as usual. You have consistently provided excellent thought provoking writing.

    Two comments on some issues you raised.
    1. "The microchip led to widespread distribution of cheap computing power and dissemination of information"
    While true, the process has been reversed to an extent. The expanded use of "the cloud" and "social networking" makes it easier for statists to track and suppress its opponents and to fund competition to oppose both independent voices of liberty and small business alternatives to corrupt pro-statist corporatocracy.
    2."In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, Americans surrendered liberties and gave the Deep State carte blanche to fight a war on terrorism"
    CUI BONO. The question should always have been and should continue to be: Who benefits most from the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01? Who had the greatest incentive to plan and carry out the attacks? Who had the ability to control the media about the attacks? Who used the attacks as an excuse to suppress liberty? Who used the attacks as an excuse to waste trillions of taxpayer dollars and to drive America to the edge of bankruptcy? Who has prospered most from these actions? Who has repeatedly had record profits and millions in executive bonuses while producing nothing but death and destruction of the American middle class?

    Those who have created the alleged foreign enemy are not even close to desperation. They are the real enemy and they have no alleigance to the democrats, the GOP, or any formal political party.
    They can be defeated and must be opposed by those who pledge their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor.
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    • Posted by 7 years, 4 months ago
      Excellent points, although the extent of Deep State desperation at this point can only be a matter of conjecture (unless you're plugged into the DS; I know I'm not). I do remember, however, predicting in the 1980s that the Soviet Union would collapse, to substantial skepticism. The Soviet government was the second most powerful entity on the planet and exercised almost absolute control over its citizens. The fall was quick and astonishing, but what can't work ultimately won't work. Statism, in all its variants, can't work, and I now believe that the fall of the Western welfare states is closer than people think. When they go, I think chaos and devolution is much more likely than some sort of doubling down on command and control, a global police state or the like. I have to think that at least some members of the Deep State recognize that possiblity, hence the desperation. They are not nearly as omnipotent as both they and their foes believe, although it may well take pledges of our "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" to root them out. I'm ready.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 4 months ago
        The Soviets had the central banksters as an enemy. The banksters are charter members of the statist DS and provide it sustenance. I don't disagree that one tactic they could use is to plunge the lesser beings (us) into starvation and dispair laying false blame on a scapegoat, then come to our alleged rescue, all the while maintaining their millions in bonuses for continuing the con. It's up to all of us to expose the charade and to convince the military of the traitors in their midst.
        We should also be encouraging a consumer strike to hasten the collapse of the con, but we must provide a valid alternative to the cartel controlled "legal tender" that provides a source of liquidity to ensure survival of small and medium sized businesses. Without such a free market alternative, the people will be prey to the state.
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        • Posted by Seer 7 years, 4 months ago
          There is much truth in your comment. Our task, as I see it, is to determine how much of the "influence" is due to the supra-national wealthy capitalists (like Soros) and how much is due to the state, that is, an international governmental global organization, and what organizations would comprise that quasi-governmental institution. For instance, there is the IMF, the UN, an assemblage of NGO's and humanitarian organizations. There is also organizations such as the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, and perhaps many others.
          All in all, I see it as a very lop-sided arrangement, as far as nationality.
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      • Posted by Seer 7 years, 4 months ago
        Part of that "fall" was due to an inside job. It seemed quick and astonishing, because there had to be tough secrecy.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 7 years, 4 months ago
    Hello SLL,
    Another excellent piece. I see great potential for a non-fiction political science book, if you gather together the pertinent articles you have already written. Since you have already written them, a bit of collating and editing is all that is left to do. You should be a syndicated columnist. The news outlets today are in desperate need of articles like this.
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 4 months ago
    Excellent article, Robert. On close examination, there is actually more in common between the Soviet superstate and our current government. Our unelected mandarins, the agencies' bureaucrats, are as unanswerable to the people they torment as were the Soviet commissars. If anything, thanks to JFK's blunder in permitting government employees to unionize, our self-serving bureaucracy is even less vulnerable to the threat of accountability than were the commissars (which FDR warned against).

    If a commissar in the USSR oversaw a failure to reach five year plan goals, he was lucky if his next living space wasn't in the nearest gulag. Sadly, in our supposedly superior republic, we've witnessed various bureaucrats who've been responsible for the deaths of VA patients, embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars, and caused one of the biggest environmental disasters of the last several decades (mine waste polluting the Colorado river), with a complete lack of accountability. No one fired, charged with crimes, or even demoted.

    I hope that among those brilliant minds Trump is bringing into his team, there are those who have a clear vision and plan to bring an end to the dysfunctional nature of the culture that festers in the national agencies. Removing the senior bureaucrats that accommodate the disregard for responsibility in their subordinates would be a good start, but this is a diseased culture that needs cauterizing and amputation before it will begin to resemble what our government should be.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 4 months ago
    100% Right , Robert,
    These dangerous and evil folks have plenty of nasty tricks up their sleeve. The power these shadows wield is deadly. The real (fake)news has been coming out and many people are catching on but few know the extent of the larcenous depravity. I am curious if you have seen Kay Griggs video exposing the evil mindset and more.
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    • Posted by 7 years, 4 months ago
      No I have not.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 4 months ago
        Her husband was an assassin for military intelligence with his drinking problem he would tell her everything. When he wasn't abusing her. The video was made almost 20 years ago and similar to the prophetic writings in Atlas Shrugged. Her charges have been revealed in a lot of the so called fake news leaked in emails released by wikileaks.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 4 months ago
          There's a lot of Kay Griggs on YouTube.
          With Christmas around the corner, me dino has no time for them until next week.
          But here they be, y'all~

          http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=k...
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          • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 4 months ago
            That is her middle aged med blond hair.
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            • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 4 months ago
              Reminds me of the jet black hair my ex's nice looking relative, who got mad at me when I did not show up at a party for the obvious intention of dodging her unwanted advances about four years ago.
              I had no interest in her because she was (1) recently dumped and on a rebound (2) egged on my ex's two sisters who have their own complicated issues and (3) I knew she was on meds due to having mental problems.
              I kinda felt guilty that she then had a breakdown and was in some facility for three months.
              On the day she was to leave, she choked to death on a peach slice despite being in a cafeteria filled with doctors and nurses at the time.
              I think that was partly due to her being "medicated" but I don't really know.
              I was startled by her looks at the funeral. She had gray hair and looked way more haggard like a granny, which she was anyway.
              Me dino likes being divorced. Nobody bothers me most of the time.
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              • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 4 months ago
                Have to say I have never ever in my life enjoyed peaches. Now I can add dangerous to my list of negative aspects of said fruit.
                A honey crisp apple now that is delicious!
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                • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 4 months ago
                  Me dino likes peaches. Don't eat them all that much though.
                  Think I eat a can of peaches one time since that lady died.
                  I could not help but think how she died and noticed I was chewing very slowly and swallowing very carefully.
                  Creepy.
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              • Posted by ScaryBlackRifle 7 years, 4 months ago
                Ah ... divorce ... the screwin you get for the screwin you got.

                I'm on wife #4. This one likes being married ... we've been hitched since 12/1/2000.
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                • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 4 months ago
                  Good for you.
                  For me, divorce is good once the screwed over part fades into the past.
                  I paid all my child support but still there's that child connection even though all three are grown.
                  Now my ex owes me a couple of favors.
                  One favor was buying her a revolver for under $500 at the urging of a worried son we share.
                  She filed for bankruptcy and couldn't afford to buy one with a loose cannon boyfriend she had kicked out.
                  The creep was part of the reason she bankrupted but I won't go into all of that.
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                  • Posted by ScaryBlackRifle 7 years, 4 months ago
                    Yeah, stuff gets to be too complicated to talk about sober and WAY too complicated to talk about drunk.

                    I had custody of mine WAY back in 1976 ... so that should tell you what sort of mess I was facing.
                    Get along fine with #1 now and NEVER EVER have contact with #2 & #3. I think it likely #3 has died ... but I'm not checking.

                    I think the advice to skip the heartache is probably good ... just find a woman you don't like and buy her a house. ;-)
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                    • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 4 months ago
                      Buying a woman I don't like a house sounds like a way to get sued.
                      "Your honor, the house that dirty dino bought me made me fall down so I could not get up."
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  • Posted by Seer 7 years, 4 months ago
    Excellent article, Mr. Gore. I only have one comment. There is no longer a "Deep State" (confined to a single, or any one state) shadow government; the Deep State is more likely a global shadow government. We don't know for sure; it is something that needs investigating.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 4 months ago
    A+++ Robert.
    Might the Deep State have sought the dumbing down of the masses and all it's distractions as its very own fountain of youth only to find out the antidote was Conscious Man and his incessant need and talent to create value for self and others as a result.
    Seems to me, right from the beginning, Mankind was far Superior to his rulers but just as then, today, many are just not aware of that. The answer, the antidote to the Deep States fountain of youth is Conscience, the mind and the will of those it insists upon ruling over.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 4 months ago
    All collectivist states are basically the same no matter what they call themselves. The moment the state regulates the means of production they create a template for failure. Of late, in order to modify the unworkable socialist model, countries like China have turned to capitalism to save their economy, but stil must be in control. To that extent they keep the capitalist part breaking down with their interference. Sort of like the USA.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 7 years, 4 months ago
    loved it...spot on...posted to facebook and the internet...

    the revolt against the"deep state" and all it's freedom crunching edicts is only that...a revolt "against"...with no consistent philosophy "for" liberty and freedom, a democracy is doomed to, after a brief pause, to continue it's slide into a totalitarian state...
    we all have to learn to live free in an unfree world...

    meanwhile, i am going back to Temecula for some more wine, peace, and quiet...
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    • Posted by amhunt 7 years, 4 months ago
      Hello mia767ca. You may find:

      "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" by Harry Browne

      interesting.
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      • Posted by mia767ca 7 years, 4 months ago
        read it...way back when...and met the man...i understand him more and more every day...like him a lot...

        what i forgot to add to where we are going is....

        "Unless you know to which port you are sailing, no winds are favorable..."

        may all your winds be tailwinds...
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 7 years, 4 months ago
    Excapt for a paragraph on the ascension of the climate change issue as outlined in State of Fear in response to the collapse of the Soviet Union and a reference to The Creature from Jekyll Island as the explanation of the nexis between the financial sector and the Deep State, you painted a complete picture of post-WWII history. Nice job, Robert.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 4 months ago
    China would be right behind them except for Bush preferred trade partner status.

    It will be interesting to watch how they continue in an "open" market.
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 4 months ago
    What is the Deep State?

    The article claims that the CIA has made violent threats against every American president, making it know that they are more loyal to "the Deep State" than to the Constitution and the civilian leadership.

    At the end is says computers make it easier for the average American to ask why we have all these wars and borrow all this money. The Deep State, the article says, supports these policies but is scared because it knows they don't hold up to citizens' scrutiny.

    I have a radically different take. I see no Deep State threatening murder to keep bad policies going. Instead I see people voting for more borrowing for the same reason some people spend more than they make and the same reason some people like me eat more calories than they burn. There's no big conspiracy. People like to live beyond their means, so 46% of them are willing to vote for Donald Trump who promises more military adventures and massive borrowing. It's also the same reason the debt doubled during President Obama's terms. The Deep State didn't do it anymore than they made me go to Taco Bell.
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