She probably did. We have a running joke b/c I'm from a more affluent background. It seems like there are countless little words that just seem common to me but she didn't learn them until college.

Why did Paul Simon's "Just call me Al" pop into my head when I read this?

lol. http://ultimategothguide.blogspot.mx/201...
the comments are hysterical. I love the self-proclaimed "elder goth"

Yes.

That's an extremely strong case to prove this is all hyped up by people looking for problems. I didn't know that it was only during certain hours, that makes a world of difference.

However I don't think they would have to prove that bouncers were denying access to minorities to declare the owners racist. It's illegal to blatantly do something like that, and I'm sure even a racist would begrudgingly allow minorities in to avoid legal ramifications.

Being racist isn't illegal, only acting on it. Which means they would probably do everything they could within the law to deter minorities from patronizing their business. Just because I pay taxes doesn't mean I sanction them, and the same is true in this case.

However it's all pretty much moot because like you said it's only during certain hours.

well if that was their intention, why wouldn't the dress code be enforced all hours of operation?
I think one would have to prove bouncers weren't letting certain ethnicities entrance. most cultures have certain sectors dressing certain ways. EVERYONE wears athletic clothing. I don't see the big chains as a black thing, I see it as a gangster thing. and, I'm sorry, but if you identify with gangsters and like to glorify that, I may not want you in my establishment after dark. which is key here-after dark.

There's definitely not enough evidence to straight up call them racist, I'm just saying if a racist wanted to keep minorities out, this is a potential tactic they could use without breaking laws.

The signs not racist, people who think it is racist obviously have a stereotypical view on how black people dress, which could be called racist maybe, assuming all black people dress the same is generalizing based on race, though racist is such a vague word these days.

That's the real issue here, vagueness. Since racists can't say they are racist without fear of violent repercussions, they have to resort to being vague and mixing in with the general public and business owners who do simply want a nice dress code.

I don't get the race connection. Not at all. Perhaps this is a group of people living by one of my favorite mantras..."I'm offended. Therefore, I am."

I missed that on first read, too. Thanks, because it does provide significant and important context.

Thanks Snoo. You are right. Not sure when I started using it but your point is understood. Old habits as they say. I'll try to remember.

Haha it makes me sad that Webster lists it although it did say that it is ".. a long way from general acceptance". Perhaps I should explain myself. Regardless means "without regard" that I think we can all agree on. Ir- is used to negate a word, therefore the true meaning of 'irregardless' is without without regard. So if you follow that logically in a sentence wouldn't it mean with regard which is the opposite of what you are trying to say? In any case, avoiding double negatives does seem to be the best course of action. Think of that the next time the urge to say 'irregardless' comes up. And I'm done.

Nobody has pointed out this policy is in effect only after 9 pm. Lots of upscale bars have a dress policy

If anything, it 's anti -gangster. Who wants to dress in a way that associates themselves with a criminal element? Maybe the owners want to mitigate violence

I 'm pretty sure the mothers of people who dress this way request the same curtesy for Thanksgiving dinner. We never did get jeans allowed for family dinner at my in -laws...

Because they want people to dress up? I guess if you 're culturely stitched up into your clothing. I wonder if the moms of people who dress like this think the same way as the bar owners....hmmmmm

For me this is one of those questions where I pull a Hillary and ask "what difference does it make" if this targets a group of people or the clothing or anything else. I believe we all have certain prejudices, be it people, places or things. The only difference in the 3 is one have emotion attached to it. The question I ask is don't we all have the right to be prejudice against anything we don't like. I am not condoning, just saying as a freedom loving person, what gives me or anyone the right to tell someone they have to like somebody? For anyone that may think people should not have the right to discriminate on any basis, then one would have to assume that that person would welcome every person, even their worst enemy into their own home because not welcoming them in would be discriminating.

That was risky. She could have thought you were a snob. Glad it worked out irregardless. Oops.

Wow, touched a nerve. Sorry snoo. Regardless I did search it.
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