The 7 most dangerous vaccines injected into humans and exactly why they cause more harm than good

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 4 months ago to News
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For your information.
I know that some of you think vaccinations are a good thing. I myself know that my own body is very sensitive to any kind of allopathic intervention so I naturally shy away from these things...and guess what...I have been disease free for over 20 years and the past 6 I have worked in one of the worst environments while others are always sick...I am not.

The ingredients in these things scare the heck out of me.
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  • Posted by Lucky 7 years, 4 months ago
    Olduglycarl. You may well be scared of vaccines and refuse to take them
    but they are helping your health by making people who you are in contact
    with free from the diseases which in past centuries wiped out many.

    Allopathic intervention- a negative term used in ignorance or prejudice to describe evidence based medicine
    which has cured many illnesses and substantially lengthened the human life-span.
    Natural medicine- a set of practices based on the irrational belief that cures for unpleasant symptoms must be
    centuries old to have any worth.

    Of all endeavors in organization and technology, human health has benefited most from:
    - clean water supply,
    - sewerage systems, and
    - vaccination.

    The questions that are valid include:
    Should they be compulsory?
    Are they promoted best by voluntarily or government agencies?

    A colleague reported that he among many suffered from Chinese Restaurant Syndrome
    because of the mono-sodium glutamate used.
    I asked him if he likes and eats tomatoes .. ..
    But, what has logic got to do with this.
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    • Posted by Sully2161 7 years, 4 months ago
      Lucky, I agree entirely. I have a friend who is a vaccine "conspiracist" and have had to explain to him the difference between deadly "fish mercury" and ethylmercury found in vaccines (which quickly exits the body). Likewise with your MSG analogy, the formaldehyde found in some vaccines can be found in similar doses in pears and double the dose in some mushrooms.

      I personally believe that herd immunity works -- whether you like the name or not -- and I think proof exists when you consider how diseases that the US has nearly wiped out have made a resurgence in areas populated by anti-vaxers.

      While I think everyone should vaccinate, I'm not sure whether compulsory vaccination is appropriate. It's only a gray area for me because I believe in herd immunity -- otherwise I'd say let them fend for themselves.

      I think it's safe to say that if vaccines were so bad we probably wouldn't be dealing with overpopulation. Regardless, I'd be pro-vax even if it were proven that there is a chance of harm if that chance is less than risk from the disease it prevents. Like many things in recent generations, I think the benefits granted by our predecessors have robbed us of perspective and appreciation (i.e. not having struggled with wartime rationing, not having seen these nearly-eliminated diseases first-hand, etc.)
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    • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 4 months ago
      Just a minute. You know what you just defended? "Herd immunity." Absolutely no student of Objectivism should have anything but contempt for that concept. Are we cattle, for authorities of any description to talk of "herding" us or regarding us as any kind of "herd"? To say nothing of the serious doubt that the concept actually works.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      Allopathic intervention Is a negative..."Treating the symptoms but not the cause!" Doesn't sound like the right thing to do. Giving the body what it needs to do the job on it's own is the right thing to do. Allopathic creatures, just like progressive creatures want to do it in spite of the body. Their protocols ruin the immune system so they have to do for the body what it could do for itself...if you think about it, that's just what progressives do in government, in the cities and in our lives. It's just plain wrong.

      With today's forensic's we have been validating many naturalpathic cures.
      You really aught to check out the perverted history and intentions of the AMA...we could include WHO. also.
      They are the "Quacks"...allopathic treatments started with a process known as Quackery and just like all things "progressive", the blame and consequences are put upon everyone else.

      And Another Thing...laughing...the thing that everyone gets wrong about a harmful substance found in nature is that when you start putting those things in medicine, processed food (especially without the natural fibers) and vaccines one is exposed to more than the body can handle, it goes into overload...this is why there are adverse reactions to these protocols...inwhich they give you another symptom covering concoction and on and on and on.
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      • Posted by Lucky 7 years, 4 months ago
        Allopathy:
        A word invented in 1810 by Samuel Hahnemann to differentiate medicine from homeopathy which he founded.
        Medicine today, in that era, and as understood by Hahnemann, are quite different from each other.

        Homeopathy is the belief that disease can be treated with minute doses of drugs thought capable of producing the same symptoms in healthy people as the disease itself, this is usually by dissolving in water to such a dilution that no trace of that drug can be detected (even at theoretical levels).
        (Yes, it is that simple, and that stupid).
        Yes, it has been tested and fails repeatedly.

        The word allopathy is now used by the advocates of so-called alternative medicine -non-medical practitioners such as chiropractors, homeopaths, and naturopaths-
        to refer pejoratively to conventional medicine and mainstream physicians.
        None of the alternatives have understanding of underlying causes and they (pretend to) treat symptoms regardless of their claims. They rely on a concept called vitalism, something like souls, rather than accumulated knowledge of physicochemical interactions.

        Politics and health policy:
        Yes, progresivistas support big health, no surprise as big unions as well as big government money are in big health. Alternatives as well as big-pharma are very big, they are different as most of their products do not work and have not been tested at all.
        The major political support for alternatives is from the Green movement, worshipers of trees, Gaia, and such who see humans as the enemy of their idols.

        (Would whoever downvoted, it was not me, make a contribution please? The O P clearly needs help!).
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
          Was never a fan of homeopathy either and the gaia like greenies are just ignorantly wacky.
          I do well just eating foods that do not cause blood agglutination or other adverse reactions.
          I had to go a year on a very strict diet, after that, from time to time I can tolerate some of the less harmful foods like when you eat at someone else's house.
          The Blood Type protocols and the supplements (I don't depend on them) have made a tremendous difference in my health.

          It's really simple stupid...eat the foods that are good for you, avoid the bad ones as much as you can, exercise the way that's right for you and the body does it's job.

          Laughing...what's the "O P"?
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          • Posted by Lucky 7 years, 4 months ago
            OP= original poster

            There is an old song- A little of what you fancy does you good, or something like that.

            There is also MikeMarotta's thread:
            https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

            dwlievert was the most sensible contributor-
            " I suffer from a habitual affliction in that my body and its remorseless metabolic workings reject any foods which do not contain a generous combination of salt, sugar, and fat.
            I try to overcome said affliction with judicious drinking and the smoking of cigars.
            At 72 I repeatedly exclaim - much as the man who had jumped off the 100th floor of the Empire State Building was heard to exclaim as he passed the 90th floor, "so far so good!" '
            Well I resemble that remark but make 90th something lower!
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            • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
              Funny...oh I burned the candle at both ends alright but when I realized everyone except two of the oldest members of my family died in or before their 50's, I decided I should error on the side of health...that's when I was introduced to eating right 4 one's blood type.
              Never looked back...still not perfect but much better than I would of been otherwise...now about to be 65.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 4 months ago
    I have, so far, been injected for allergies, pneumonia, flu, and when in a hospital, well, who knows. I do remember when I lay on the operating table to get my bypass, the anesthesiologist saying, "Relax, here comes the good stuff," and the next thing I remember was a nurse calling my name to wake me up. But, more to the point: Many chemicals when taken in certain forms and delivered in certain manner are toxic and can put you in a coma and kill you. But these same chemicals in modified form and delivered in controlled doses can actually be good for you. The allergy shots I took as a kid relieved much of my hay-fever symptoms and allowed me to breathe well enough so that asthma didn't develop. (Which it did when I stopped the shots). However, those same injections at a higher dose could and likely would kill me.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      From day one...all this allopathic crap made me sick as a dog. Once I stopped going to them and started taking care of myself...I've been great.
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      • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 4 months ago
        Crap for you means it is crap for me and others? I'm glad for you and rejoice in your personal success but condemn your implication that others are taking crap in a vain assumption that yours is the only response to medication and vaccines that the rest of us are allowed to have.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
          I am only advocating informed choices here...we are not taught to know our own bodies and the best way to know it is bloodtype medicine...it's just a place to start that journey. It's not the end to end all.

          Just be informed and don't take allopathic thinking for granted...many of those creatures could give a rats ass. That's just how the AMA got started.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 4 months ago
        If it wasn't for the BW, I'd probably be dead. Food, exercise, etc. are entirely out of my control. I stopped exercising when pain took over my body and I had to give up racquetball and squash. But, what the heck, whatever floats your boat.
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  • Posted by Blanco 7 years, 4 months ago
    As someone with a degree in biology, I view the evidence of the efficacy of vaccines as overwhelming. The real question for me as a libertarian (not an objectivist) is whether they should be mandatory. I've always been torn over this question but tend to come down slightly on the side of mandatory vaccinations.

    Blanco
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      Thanks...you just killed me and all my genotype counterparts...
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      • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 4 months ago
        Oh, nuts. Every mandatory vaccination program has exclusions for folk who for medical reasons can not be vaccinated. Those folk like you survive best by having all who CAN be vaccinated to be vaccinated.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
          Whether your vaccinated or not doesn't seem to bother me at all...I am around sick people everyday and it just never seems to take hold...my coworkers want to drain and divvy up by blood. I'm sure you'd enjoy that...if they ever succeed, I'll post the video here for you.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 4 months ago
    Carl, my friend, this is link is loaded with misinformation. Really, we shouldn't take the polio vaccine? I guess that makes sense if you think it helped rid us of FDR. If Salk's vaccine is so ineffective, why is polio essentially wiped out?

    Do we know our stomachs contain hydrochloric acid, which can dissolve nails? Did we know the DNA of Puerto Ricans contains similarities to fruit bats (like all people).

    This is misinformation, intended to scare people, just like the AGW arguments. We need to base decisions on science, not hype.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      Laughing...on a second read I just caught the: " I guess that makes sense if you think it helped rid us of FDR." part...Good job.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 4 months ago
        Yeah, after the 16th Amendment (Taft, right?), FDR was the worst. Oligarchian, rich, socialist puke!
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
          Yea and rich of Not his own making.

          Sad to say...I am related to that Taft idiot! but watered down by a Webster and a Swede of unknown ancestry.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 4 months ago
            Well the 16th wasn't all his making. Republican Congress went along, and the States ratified it, all blind to what socialists would do with it later.

            Gulching, and having to deal with all of us is suitable penance for your genes.
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            • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
              Laughing...gota get a star for the "Webster" relationship and maybe even the Swede...(my Dad)...and if you think I'm strange...he was born with white hair and it stayed that way all his life. He also had a negative RH factor which is something we don't see in nature. (thank goodness I am positive) Being negative RH And a non-secretor would be trouble.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      From what I understand is that it wasn't a cure for polio that was created it was just another variant...there were, at the time, (and from time to time I still try to hunt the truth down) other protocols that worked...but like I said...after all this time, it's tough to vet out.
      When progressives and the vial AMA say anything, I am conditioned to favor the opposite. These creatures can't be trusted and anything they say must be investigated.
      But my own experience has shown me that my body rebels against any intervention.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 4 months ago
        Having had a major thigh surgery, open heart surgery and two hip resurfacings, I would agree with you wholeheartedly, you must be your own advocate as a patient. Doctors are generally not critical thinkers. They are pattern matchers (I see that. I did this before. It worked). They can be arrogant; however, they are not malicious or fools.
        For my heart surgery, I studied and found the procedure and surgeon I wanted. My cardiologist was not aware of the procedure (but he was a good doctor and a soccer buddy). If I followed the mainstream advice, I'd be on coumadin the rest of my life (and playing soccer, judo and working on everything, I smash and cut myself all the time). My procedure was a little riskier, but no reop, and no drugs. I could go on and on about time in the hospital, good-vs-bad nurses, and doctors not being straight with you.

        The AMA is about power and control, but they have no incentive to recommend stupid things. That is just puts them in jeopardy of a revolution against them. The AMA and FDA just play CYA all day long.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
          Now see...that's just what I am talking about.
          We may never be able to untangle the tangled weaves but we can research to do the best we can.

          I am glad you did and that it all worked out.
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      • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 4 months ago
        You are conditioned to favor the opposite of what those who study and are certified for their expertise say? What vaccination produces such an effect on you? Are you certified, degreed, trained in epidemiology? Epidemiology is the branch of medicine that deals with the incidence, distribution, and possible control of diseases and other factors relating to health.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
          Well apparently they got it wrong cause every vaccine, every drug that was ever given to me screwed me up...best to leave old ugly dogs like me alone and we do just fine.

          I'll say it again...everyone is different. As much as they would like to think otherwise, it just ain't so.
          I don't go along with the "Greater Good", or collateral damage mode. Degrees mean nothing today without integrating other knowledge and observations. Much of the world is blind and/or corrupt.
          My own personal experiences have conditioned me to question everything...especially when they produce the opposite effect.
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  • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 7 years, 4 months ago
    I have been saying this for DECADES!!!! https://www.facebook.com/groups/16033...
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      I no longer feel alone.
      The only reason I don't raise my voice (rhetorically) is that my wife (B type Blood) a very different human animal than my O type, non secreator status, can handle most of the what allopathic medicine can dish out. She did have a heart attack due to the acid reflux drugs she was taking but seems to do well with or without flu vaccines.
      She too, tries to eat according to blood type and it has helped, however, she has many problems that could be masking any adverse effects.
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      • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 7 years, 4 months ago
        apple cider vinegar can control acid reflux in most people AND it helps balance the PH. Has ANY doctor told you this?
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
          She is over it...the problem, at the time she had way too much for a B but also, the valve between the esophagus and the stomach didn't work...it would of made things worse...works well for A's, they have the least, and those that suffer from a lack.
          O's naturally have the most...we need it to consume rare red meat.
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  • Posted by chad 7 years, 4 months ago
    There seems to be the boogeyman conspiracy theory at work here. While a vaccine uses a dead virus so the immune system will recognize it when it sees it again and be prepared to defeat the invasion it does not mean that all vaccinations are of value either. After asking several different doctors about the flu vaccination offered every year it seems they are all of the same opinion, since the particular flu virus that comes around each year is different than the previous one there is no effective way to prepare for the current virus. When a government gets behind a program, mandates it and pays for it by plundering the masses then companies that produce it will profit from the plunder and produce a low quality product. As far as making it mandatory let those who don't want it avoid the vaccine they will be the only ones in danger, not those who were vaccinated, providing the vaccine has some worth. It amazes me that an objectivist would consider saving 'the herd' by making something he has determined of value to made mandatory, i.e. the government will use a gun to ensure compliance.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      As you explained...it might be conspiratorial out of greed, ignorance or just plain stupidity but it's no longer a theory.
      There was a study done after the last "Mandatory" chicken pox, measels or mumps vaccines and found that those that got it were the one's that got the shot...oops! Honestly, it did come from a good source but I never got around to vetting that out, but it would support your prose on government incompetence or crony self interests.
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 7 years, 4 months ago
    FWIW to anyone, I's now 78 generally "healthy" but endured a rather major heart attack 7 years ago, which an outstanding surgeon repaired very well, such that my heart damage has healed & I've been okay ever since.
    The Army gave me a flu shot c.1959 (live virus) which gave me a horrid case of the flu, so bad I begged to just die. Never again would I take another shot for anything.
    Recently I switched to an MD/Naturopath after 3 cardiologists refused to take me off statins despite good cholestorol readings. So far so good; in fact I'm feeling better than in years!
    So this post about vaccines will be heeded, thank you!
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 4 months ago
    Me age 69 (million years) dino remembers seeing a kid in my elementary school class on crutches and wearing leg braces because he had polio.
    A now renewed thought of "that coulda been me" makes me appreciative of the polio vaccine.
    Methinks I recall both a needle as well as some kinda treated sugar cubes but time can make memories very vague.
    Doubt my very good doctor would give Type 2 diabetic me sugar treated with anything.
    Me dino fired a crappy MD back in the 90s before I lucked out for picking this Doc up.
    It's likely he is the reason I'm not yet extinct for reasons I won't go into,
    So the next time he says it's time for my next flu shot, I'll recall that Laugh-In TV show of the 60s and say, "Sock it to me."
    Come to think of it, that goes for a pneumonia shot he had a nurse give me too.
    Once attended the funeral of a pretty young lady in her twenties out of courtesy to her father, one of my shift's sergeants at the prison when I worked there.
    The cause of her death was pneumonia. It was hard for me to wrap my brain around that. Thought that was an illness that killed kids and old people.
    Also thought that woman was the healthiest looking corpse I've ever seen, but then maybe that particular funeral home does excellent work. .
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    • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 4 months ago
      Yep, 1st grade I went to a friends house and a room was set up with an iron lung. Very strange for me at the time to see a head poking out, sealed from the rest of his body. Was my friend's brother. I thought he was just a head. I was terrified. Another kid arrived when I was in third grade with leg braces and crutches. And yet I'm being asked to believe that those poor folk were in their condition because they didn't eat right and care for themselves so their immune system could work against the Polio virus? Olduglycarl, are you really asking your readers to buy into such "conditioned" responses as yours which you admit is conditioned and so can not have been the result of reasoned analysis.
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
        Now your jumping to concussions, (yep I said concussions) Everyone is different and has different vulnerabilities...so No, eating right and taking care of your self will not always be the key...it all depends upon your make up in general. One will not get polio because of their life style. The person you shared a story about obviously had a weakness in their make up.

        Mine was primarily hyperactivity, or (Graves) and it was triggered by vaccines and certain foods made it worse. Once I got older and cut out those foods, I stopped getting speeding tickets. Laughing.
        The rest of my vulnerabilities stem from being a non-secretor (my blood type antigens only exist in the blood) which is why my body doesn't adversely react to viruses... it just kills them. But also, my body doesn't like to be messed with so staying away from lamestream medicine is a Big plus for me so long as I give it what it needs.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 7 years, 4 months ago
    Aaaaaaand I stopped reading at "quack western medicine."
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      Look up the word Quackery or the process of quackery some day...it's tide into western/ allopathic medicine.
      I think I posted it here at one time.
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      • Posted by JohnConnor352 7 years, 4 months ago
        Western medicine is based on science. Homeopathic medicine is not. It is the idea that you treat illnesses based on the symptoms they present, and then you give the patient a herb or treatment that would normally also cause those symptoms. That is supposed to make you all better.

        Western medicine has quacks, yes. Homeopathic medicine is made entirely of quacks.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 4 months ago
    Modern immunopathy promises to replace vaccines by carefully engineering T cells to be more robust and specific. The first effort is to replace chemotherapy for cancer treatment, and preliminary results for cancers highly resistant to treatment looks very promising. The question is how to make the T cells selective against a wide variety of diseases without triggering immunological disorders. By studying the specific elements of viral diseases and how they invade healthy cells, T cells can be engineered to detect the viral fingerprint, and government and commercial laboratories are exploring the idea of a generalized viral key detector, essentially changing the way the immune system works. They believe it may be possible to modify our immune systems to be able to resist viral strains that evolve into new forms.

    As a child I contracted every form of measles, mumps, chicken pox, rheumatic fever (got lucky there, as my doctor treated it as a bacteriological problem instead of viral, and he was right). Aside from the basic DPT shots and the Salk vaccine, I really didn't see much more until the Vietnam war, when all in uniform got a battery of vaccinations, including for bubonic plague. As a seasoned citizen I did get the pneumonia and shingles vaccines. I can't say any of the vaccines have given me a problem, but then it may just be my iron constitution made me resistant.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      Everyone is different, we can't all be treated the same like the lamestream thinks or wants us to believe. That's more or less where I am coming from and this comes from personal experience.

      Thanks for your input.
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  • Posted by mspalding 7 years, 4 months ago
    A vaccine works by exposing your immune system to an inactive version of the pathogen so the immune system can prebuild antibodies that will protect you when you are exposed to the real thing. Every day you breath in millions of bacteria and other pathogens and your immune system does the same thing. So, in essence, with every breath you are getting vaccinated.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      After eating dirt when young, I must of been exposed to most everything...don't need any help there...besides vaccines make my immune system go Nuts. It over reacts where it would normally just do it's thing otherwise.
      However, I sure at some point mad scientists will invent something or allow some creation of theirs get out and my body will not be prepared for that and if that's the case...No one else will be either.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years, 4 months ago
    You know...if you get a vaccine you can get 10% off your grocery bill at Safeway. I'm thinking about it. I'm only in there about 30 times per year...
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
      If I did that I probably would not live long enough to eat the groceries...it's the "monkey piss" and Mercury that makes me so sick...my body will not tolerate that crap.
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      • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 4 months ago
        Captain Morgan in the monkey piss makes it tolerable.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
          Now that's funny although the captain morgan would kill me first. I am Oversensitive to alcohol Too! Just the smell of it makes me sick.
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          • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 4 months ago
            So, if not nothing, then what ARE you planning on dying of? I used to skydive, ride motorcycles, race cars, mine coal and run with married men's wives. I was ready then, now I'm left with just good looks I can think will get me and it pisses me off. Hahahaha.
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            • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
              Be thankful your good looks stayed with you...mine "picked a fine time to leave me, Lucile." and although I never cheated, when asked just such a question, I replied that I'd be killed by a jealous husband...but I think I will be the factor in my own demise by doing something incredibly stupid or careless. Because I've been accustomed to doing things quickly, I sometimes don't pay real close attention and end up getting injured...it's a work in progress and I am still working on "full time" awareness. Like a mentor one explained: with practice one could become unconsciously competent.
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              • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 4 months ago
                Ah sure, would call you "rammy" in the coal mine vernacular. Seen a good many fools die of the unique syndrome: "Hey!!! Watch This!!!!" If it's not for a guaranteed sex experience, I just don't understand those morons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ywKS...
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                • Posted by $ 7 years, 4 months ago
                  I refer to my., still, hyper active learned ways in doing my tasks quickly. I don't take stupid risks or show off...I still get board easily...only a bit slower these days. I had to learn in my younger days to get really good at things before I could achieve light speed in doing them...laughing.
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