it is the poor and targeted selection of that date that makes is so disgusting to me. as you say, even A-holes have freedom of speech.

It is an odd thing, is t it?

Love it!!!!

It has not been for 25 years or more but I studied and worked with Muslims and all of them I knew were ok. Today it seems a newer type has emerged.
I fully support their political and civil rights, they can pray, march, condemn, and dress how they wish. I am uneasy about the walking around covered in black tents, not sure about that.
The rights such as freedom of speech of others must of course be upheld. In the event of incompatibility only those individuals who act against the rights of others need to be constrained.
Barry Goldwater quote?- can a tolerant society tolerate/survive an organized non-tolerant activist group?

Islam, Tolerance and Rights. Worth watching. I do not tolerate Muslims or the teachings of Mohamad. I respect the Rights of Muslims if they respect the rights of others including, women, children and non-believers. Thanks.

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I'm just going to throw in here I don't tolerate Muslims, but I do respect their rights. I refer you to this video for an objective justification

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55uN9Vn...

Pretty interesting so many of us seem to know this left handed fact.

I love the shoe thing, forgot about that. I think I will buy some 1/2 soles at the local shoemaker and glue them on top of my shoes. I am wearing them on 9/11!

well, you can be sure he will defend their right to march and gather instead of saying it is tasteless to choose that day. there will be no reprimand to the muslims from the white house.

Because Islam is a *theocracy* muslims ignore the radical political component and only whine and lie about their religious freedom being tramped on. So here they go throwing rock salt on our deep wounds of 9/11 under the guise of religious freedom and we are not able to stop them. There are 364 other days they could have chosen for their march if they had any tolerance whatsoever for others. Every year since 9/11 they have become bolder. I am disgusted, outraged and fearful!

A theocracy......and Americans are foolishly separating and tolerating the religious component-- which is what we do---however that, in fact, is an endorsement of the radical political system component. Because of our general ignorance on Islam, muslim followers simply lie and throw us right back to the religious side of the issue which shuts everyone up. tolerance... But there are some knowledgable "experts" on Islam surely advising our govt.... why haven't I heard this explaination before? I understand your first Para is a simplified statement about a highly complicated issue. Thank you.

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This is where things get complicated. Many muslims thirst for the truth. This is a religious thing for them. If you don't believe in an afterlife, you're only reinforcing their belief in Islam.

Islam (Mohammed's dim understanding) completely distorts what Jesus said and did. Almost every one I met, asked me some very interesting questions about JC and it forced me to take a different look at my Savior and also dive deeper into His life.

But, you can inform your friend & family on the deceitful ways that they portray Islam by telling them what you have learned.

So uh..... What are we going to do after we all become experts in Islam?

There are a number of things we can do.

1) Educate yourself on Islam. Use the exact same materials muslims themselves use. Here are some recommendations: The Generous Qu'ran ~ by Usama Dakdok The Reliance of The Traveller, and politicalislam.com. (Dr. Bill Warner's excellent examination into Islam, from a scientific view, not religious) The Sura (capitalized means Mohammed's life specifically) and The Hadith's.

2) Read/Listen to Bridgett Gabriels "They must be stopped."

3) Click on my profile and go way back to my earlier posts in which I list other websites for further education.

4) Listen to former muslims about the truth of Islam. Walid Shoebat is one great example. He is a former PLO terrorist and has an incredible story on how he left Islam. I was fortunate to have met him and attend one of his speeches. He and others like him are undisputed experts since they were "from inside" and are the most courageous people for leaving Islam since the penalty is death.

5) Learn what "Al-Taqqiya" is and the law of abbrogation.

6) Inform your local politicians on what Islam really is, versus hearing it from a muslim. Muslims are obligated to lie to any non-muslim. That's why it's better if you tell them the truth about Islam and the civilization jihad they have been waging on us.

7) Obviously, if your life is in imminent danger, you have to take the appropriate action to protect yourself & family. Self-preservation is a powerful instinct that no Leftist can legislate out of existence.

So what do you suppose we do?

Ignoring is the same as condoning as far as I'm concerned. And it firmly places one in a position of having a choice take away v

I won't correct your false understanding of Christianty as long as you bring it up. If you say something that is false, I will correct it.

Your perception that they spread their ideology "peacefully" is amusing. Here are some facts to chew on: In the first 12 years of Islam, Mohammed converted about 120 people, mostly friends and family. However, after he got his arse kicked out of Mecca, he changed his methods from persuasion, to threats of violence & force (via the sword). And over the next 23 years or so, he converted 100,000 people. Thumbs up if you like that. This method hasn't changed. Why? Because you can't change Mohammed. Islam today, is exactly what it was 1400 years ago. You fail to understand what Mohammed instructed his followers concerning the spread of Islam. Stop buying into their propaganda. Also, you're confusing religion for some sort of product that you go and buy at some store. This is an Eastern ideology.

Islam is a culture that is not compatible with Western Culture. Get it? The Koran seeks to impose itself over ALL governments, across the entire world. Islam is seditious by it's nature. It is in direct opposition to Article 6 of our Constitution.

With your vigorous defense of Islam, I'm begging to wonder if you're unwittingly falling into being a dhymmi. And in case you didn't know, it has been historically shown that Dhmmi's have vigorously defended their muslim masters.

Stop supporting an ideology that supports: slavery (look up the 42-yr old Saudi princess who kept a slave in her place in L.A., this story is less than 90 days old), pedophilia, child marriage, clitorectomy's and necrophilia. They do not have the right to peacefully spread such filth. They can keep it in their own borders, not in my country.

Now, I challenge you to have the courage to read "Reliance of The Traveller." ~ It is THE authority of Sharia Law and it is what they are seeking to impose on you & your family. If you're truly curious as to what that truly means, I encourage you to MOVE to Saudi Arabia, as a Christian, or worse, as a "non-believer" and see for yourself how those wonderful, "tolerant" and "peaceful" muslims will treat you.

Very eloquently, truthfully put, Edaimonia. People will ignore those facts at their own peril.

Well spoken and spot on accurate. Rozar should read this carefully. I'm afraid he doesn't get it. Which is fine, however, I'm wondering if he is willingly choosing NOT to understand the nature of the threat. That's the problem I'm having.

The problem is that Islam is *not* a religion.
Islam is a *theocracy*: a political system with a religious component.
By tolerating the religious component, you endorse the political system.

It is a theocracy which, by their own terms, (Daar Al Islam (World of Peace, i.e.: Islam dominated territories) and Daar Al Harb (World of War, i.e.: everywhere else)), is bent on a manifest destiny.
And to achieve that manifest destiny, Islam openly encourages it its followers to use taqiyya, a policy of deception, not just with governments, but with any non-believers it encounters

It radicalizes its followers to commit acts of terror around the world.
It enforces codes of behavior and assimilation which any Objectivist would readily call anti-life.

In WW2, America knew what to do when a virulent, anti-life theocracy decided to flex some manifest destiny muscles: fight them.
It is the reason why Japanese State Shinto is not here with us today.

So, IMHO, to objectively observe the way in which Islam, a virulent, anti-life theocracy bent on manifest destiny, has behaved around the world, and to dismiss as paranoia or bigotry any misgivings about it, that is to commit a grave, grave mistake.

Don't try and school me on your religion. They have every right to try and spread their religion peacefully. Your trying to fight them by initiating force against them when they haven't threatened anything but a protest. It makes you look like an intolerant barbarian and it makes them look like the peaceful ones. I'm telling you to take the moral hough ground and stand on your laurels of freedom. If you can't convince people that their religion is a blemish to mankind you don't deserve to win the nations heart. If you believe in a free market you have to accept that people are going to sell snake oil. You're trying to fight this battle on their terms. Don't. You don't have to.