Stein did it for the money. The recount brought her more contributions than she got during the whole election season, and most of them won't be needed to pay for the recall, leaving her a profit.

Hegelian Dialectic. Creating a problem where none exists, getting you to react to it, then they create a solution to their liking.

Voting machines are one of the best cases for open source design with the code open to any and all for critique and analysis. Even then you need to spot check, recount random precincts etc.

"Whatever a programmer could dream, an electronic voting machine can do. "
Maybe they could mandate the the source code be made public.

I think at this point Hill is probably asking her to stop...worrying about the evidence that may emerge...if you know what I mean...

And, I think Jill is trying to gum up the electoral vote via delay...

If anyone was hacking those voting machines, it was the Democrats, and their chief benefactor, George Soros. (Or maybe malefactor better fits the bill.)

I'm a computer programmer, and your statements are absolutely correct. If I was programming these machines, I could pretty much determine the outcome of the election if I wanted to risk it.

Another example of how I could do it: Even if there are paper receipts printed, I could code it so that every nth vote for Trump (based on something like time of day) would be dropped into Clinton's tally, but the receipt still said Trump.

Remember the Florida recounts of the 2000 election, where the media was so sure that "hanging chads" were clear evidence of a vote for Gore? The mainscream press went on a crusade for computerized voting machines, so millions of dollars were spent in upgrades. Sixteen years later, the same people of complaining of hacked vote computers. Apparently, there is no good method of counting votes if it leads to a win for Republicans.

2020 is a long way off. Lets see how Trump does in the meantime

Interesting analysis. If there was a snowball's chance in hell of Hillary being president, Obama would never even have met with Trump

The green party will never get anywhere in the US, particularly with this woman as its candidate.

If she wanted expose voter fraud on the Dimocrat side, she would have demanded recounts in states that Shrillary narrowly won.

This woman is out only for herself. She should stay in obscurity where she belongs.

I think she could care less about Hillary. She just wants to be the ONE who upsets a really important election, and will be remembered as such.

She just wants to make a name for herself in the event she can replace trump with hillary. Her backers are just plain hacks who are wasting their money. At least that money goes primarily to wages for americans.

I live in Michigan, and think that Stein is totally wacko. It took Michigan until November 28 to declare the winner in the Presidential race. Why? Because they had some irregularities in some precincts downstate, and they wanted to make absolutely sure the count was accurate. At least that is what they told us on the local newscasts. Do you think this fact is being mentioned on any of the national news?

So the recount is underway, but Michigan AG has filed suit in Federal Court to stop the recount on the grounds that Stein has no standing to ask for one. She got like 1% of the vote, and has no chance of winning the election. She is not the "injured" party. Shrillary is the one who is directly concerned, and should be the one to file for a recount. If Stein wanted Shrillary to be president, why did she run against her and siphon off votes?

2020 ought to be a hoot. Joe Biden says he's thinking of running again in 2020, so Hillary might have a tough time. Who knows, maybe Al Gore will throw his hat in the ring.

The electors have already been appointed, but can't exercise their vote if their state's voting tally hasn't been certified by the 13th. 270 represents the majority needed, so this could end up in the House.

Re: “The point isn't to validate the vote, but to tie up the states past the 13th so their electoral votes can't be counted on the 19th.” Even if they succeed in doing just that, Trump might still win the electoral vote. The 12th Amendment provides that “The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed.” If these three states fail to appoint electors, Trump will still receive a majority of the electors appointed and voting. I think that would mean that Trump can claim the Presidency with fewer than 270 electoral votes.

It is to be expected that a person such as Jill Stein would do what she's doing. After all, the head of the Green Party? What the hell is the constituency of the Green Party anyhow? What irritates me is the people that go along to promote this utterly stupid waste of time and money.

It is in the nature of a hypocrite to not care whether others know one is a hypocrite.

Hillary has as much chance of being elected in 2020 as Trump has of draining the swamp in 2016. This swamp has teeth.

Me dino also makes my ballpoint marks down here in Bama land.
Not only is it harder to tamper with my vote, providing sheets of paper and repeatedly used cheap ballpoint pens has to be way less expensive.

Cool, man. I dig it. Yeah!

Yes, I too vote with a paper ballot here in Rockingham county, NC. I much prefer this method over the machines, as it's easier to use and in my opinion more reliable and trustworthy.

The point isn't to validate the vote, but to tie up the states past the 13th so their electoral votes can't be counted on the 19th. This will throw the election to the House, with one vote per state, and given the balance between Republicans and Democrats, Trump will still be the President-elect.

Why is Stein doing this, and why is Clinton letting herself be dragged into this fiasco? Stein's intent is to use the bitterness of Hillary's supporters to line her own pockets, and to become more well known for another run in 2020. Clinton, who is still in a state of denial, sees this as a way to draw question to Trump's victory.

The Green party is furious with Stein, and has severed ties with her as a charlatan and a phony. They say that if this really was a question of the integrity of the voting system, she would have included New Hampshire and Minnesota in her challenge, as the results in those two states were much closer than in the three she did challenge. Of course those two states were wins for Clinton, so it makes it obvious Stein is carrying water for Clinton.

Even Democrats think it's a bad idea for Clinton to be associated with the recount, as it doesn't respect the integrity of the voting system. After blasting Trump for saying he wouldn't necessarily accept the outcome, it really is hypocritical. Unfortunately, Clinton may actually be delusional enough to think the recount will show she actually won the electoral votes, or at least show the race was even closer. I think she actually thinks she will be able to challenge Trump in 2020.