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  • Posted by dwcarmi 7 years, 5 months ago
    Our education system is way below what was taught when I was in school. I graduated high school in 1971. The government has made our children socialist and sadly idiots.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 5 months ago
      Me dino recalls Rush Limbaugh talking about our lib education system's deliberate "dumbiing down" of students way back during the Nineties.
      Now I'm hearing a new term--"angry snowflakes."
      Behold the indoctrinated product of our lib educational system.
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  • Posted by $ bluebirdinc 7 years, 5 months ago
    Considering we are a representative republic and the Founding Fathers warned us of how bad democracies were and are, and that all democracies become within a few hundred years, a monarchy, or other despotic form of government, such as socialism, communism, statism of whatever term you choose, when will our elite intellectuals that know this history stop calling us a democracy? Could it be that using every issue including the electoral college which gave small nations and larger nations representation in our union of nations, a false flag of legitimacy for the unending desire to destroy our republic? The current popularity contest of the election for President is bad enough without it becoming fully "democratic" which empowers those that desire to destroy our republic the tool to persuade the masses by emotion instead of reason and turn our republic over to a dictator in a very short time. There is no perfect government, but a representative republic has proven to be the best on earth.
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  • Posted by coaldigger 7 years, 5 months ago
    What do they teach in the schools today? Our brightest young people seem to be completely clueless about civics, history and economics. My youngest kid is 43 so I am out of touch with the educational system.
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    • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
      When I was in high school (and that was about 5 years ago), our AP US History supplemental reading was Howard Zinn's People's History of the United States. Fortunately, I had a teacher who pointed out that he was a communist and should be regarded with appropriate skepticism, but I suspect a lot of kids didn't receive the same warning. I think a lot of education occurs nowadays in spite of the best efforts of the school systems.
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 7 years, 5 months ago
    During a discussion about the anarchist protestors on the Left coast, I heard one of the best lines ever by Mark Theissen, to wit, "There are no electoral votes in the state of denial.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 5 months ago
    Pure democracies don't work. That's been known since ancient Greece. The Founders problem was how to represent the people without the highest population states dominating everyone else. They came up with the upper and lower houses of congress and the electoral college. It works. Clumsy, sometimes, an apparent pain in the butt at times, but it works, particularly for a large populous country. No one has devised a more perfect system to my knowledge. Frankly, I don't think there is one.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 7 years, 5 months ago
    We are not a democracy. This is why we have the electoral vote by state. Can you imagine if we had mob rule, (popular vote)?? Those little tiny blue areas would consistently rule over the entire US and the majority of the states would have no say so on anything. That is also why we have Congress. Look at the election results by county.
    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/resu...
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    • Posted by lrshultis 7 years, 5 months ago
      The USA is not a classical democracy, but rather a representative constitutional republic which uses the democratic electoral vote to recognize the states for the choosing of POTUS and Congress. The democratic function of Congress pretty much went away with the increasing number of bureaus which make most of the federal laws and regulations which should be the function of the Congress by democratic votes of the representatives of the people and the Senate which had once represented the the votes of the states.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 5 months ago
    Uniformity in how electoral votes are distributed would be nice, but not necessary. That's one area that still reflects Federalism, with each state choosing how the electoral votes are assigned.

    To be somewhat pedantic, if each electoral vote reflected the outcome of the popular vote in each congressional district, with the two senatorial votes going to the winner of the state's popular vote, that would be the best reflection of who really appeals to all the people. That would take more time to sort out than the winner take all or proportional systems used now, so maybe best to leave things as they are.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
    It is what it is and is unlikely to change. I do think that the idea of "electors" is antiquated. The popular vote should just cause the "electoral college votes" to just go seamlessly to the candidates.

    If the system were changed to a popular vote format, the candidates would simply change their strategies, but I suspect that at this point California, New York, and Florida would select the president and that would be that.
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    • Posted by edweaver 7 years, 5 months ago
      Or consider the possibility that without the electoral college we may only get candidates that cater to the will of people in large cities. And we know how they vote. Free market candidates would not have a chance so why would they do the work to a certain failure? I think we would end up with a progressive candidate and a socialist progressive competing for the position.

      Personally, I'd like to see the electoral college expanded so that large metropolitan areas only get a maximum of 50% of the electoral votes for each state.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 7 years, 5 months ago
    Hello krevello,
    Indeed.
    Fifty percent plus one is a majority. To be granted powers over a minority with disparate interests by virtue of simple majority is nothing short of tyranny. To assert right is obtained by majority rule/pure democracy irregardless of minority individual rights, is to be a tyrant. Majority does not make right any more than might.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by martinmetz 7 years, 5 months ago
    Will the next great push from the left be to eliminate the Electoral College as being irrelevant for today's generation? I think our Founding Fathers knew better. We need give them the proper recognition for their foresight. We are forgetting and not adequately teaching the culture and traditions from our early history of the Nation. From The Patriot Post: "There is a reason this country is called the United States of America. It’s because we are not a direct democracy, but a constitutional republic consisting of 50 separate entities plus the District of Columbia, operating under a federal umbrella. And while the Founders recognized the need for the extra layer of government, they were also extremely wary of politicians who would see it as an opportunity to eviscerate states' rights. The Electoral College was the vehicle they used to preserve those rights and simultaneously maintain democratic legitimacy." https://patriotpost.us/articles/45930
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 5 months ago
    If it not for the EC, we would be slaves to the mobs of the cities. Cities have a 'Tendency to create Dependency', because one has very little control over his own life; Everything depends upon others to do their part. A hard lesson learned by the "Pilgrims" back in the 1620's.
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 7 years, 5 months ago
    I don't know how many times I've said this, but we are not and have never been a democracy. The USA was founded as a constitutional republic. A democracy is majority rule; it's a collection of wolves and sheep deciding what's for dinner. This usually doesn't bode well for the sheep if they are outnumbered.
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