Now it's former President Trump

As do I! I now have a 17 month old grandson, and I will do all I can to ensure he is well founded in critical thinking (probably through private schooling). But this is what our public education system has become - indoctrination centers for the politically correct topics.

Absolutely correct! I heard some scary things in his "gracious" victory speech. He thanked Shrillary for her service, yet only a few weeks before, he said in a debate that she should be in jail. What are going to get from Prez Trump?

Well that didn't take long. The votes aren't even all counted, and Trump is already talking to Nazi Pelousy about a trillion-dollar infrastructure bill. Why is the classic lyric from "Won't Get Fooled Again" running through my head? "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Now is not the time to rest. Now is the time to act. We need to ride our elected representatives and president like they are low-grade beasts of burden. Remind them that we sent them there cut spending in Washington and to dismantle liberal pork-barrel programs.

LOL, thanks! Yep. Classic. However, I'm pretty sensitive about kids. It pains me to see them used like tools. The older I get, the more I love kids...

I got reamed, too. I set up my portfolio for a Clinton victory. Now, I'm waiting on the sidelines for my sells to settle. What a dumbass...

Agreed

Our moral duty is nothing of the sort.

“If they refuse to vote for Donald Trump, they may be responsible for electing Hillary Clinton.” Excuse me, but I am not in any way responsible for the actions of others.

“Our moral duty is to vote to achieve the most possible good, which eliminates voting for candidates who cannot win . . . “ That would have eliminated voting for your candidate Trump, since the polls were saying he could not possibly win.

“Always vote and act to achieve the greatest possible good.” This argument sounds more Utilitarian than Objectivist. And no two people agree on what the “greatest possible good” is.

“All major Christian Religions support the Positive Voting Principle. Historically, all moral philosophers and all major Christian religions support the Positive Voting Principle.” An argument from authority, and in this case religious authority that has no credibility at all as far as Objectivism is concerned.

“Aquinas wrote our moral duty is to achieve as much good as possible from every situation, including our vote. He says we cannot achieve good by acting on something that is impossible, like voting for a third-party candidate.” The only “moral duty” recognized by Objectivism is to refrain from initiating force. And there are other reasons than winning to vote for a third-party candidate, in this case crossing the 5% vote threshold to become a recognized political party and not having to spend so much on achieving ballot access.

“Suppose you get to vote for Candidate A, whose abortion policies will kill 10 million babies, or candidate B, whose policies will kill 1 million babies. Who will you vote for? All normal Christians will vote for Candidate B so they can save 9 million babies.” So faced with a choice of Hitler who promises to kill 6 million Jews and Stalin who promises to kill only 5.9 million Jews, a “normal Christian” will vote for Stalin? Even when given the additional choice of voting for “none of the above”?

I don’t see where your citing of religious authorities and appeals to “moral duty” have much in common with Objectivism.

Ditto.

Moral duty is a contradiction of terms. Moral implies choice and duty implies lack of choice.

My thought also, AJ

Bravo!

I will not rejoice in a Trump win, but I certainly will rejoice in the defeat of Shrillary. Ding dong, the wicked witch is (politically) dead.

I woke up today, and looked around for a large rabbit looking at his watch. Couldn't be happier when I found I was not in Wonderland.

Thanks, YNGH.

President Trump

I hope so too. And I also hope that this election represents America's New Zealand moment where they unilaterally rejected the move to socialism. Maybe that's a stretch, but a fellow can hope...

Well, we dodged that bullet. We escaped certain
death (for the time being), and played
Russian roulette.--

What now remains is to keep strict guard on
Trump (who is not really a free-enterprise man), and to clamp down on him if he tries to
bring in statist measures (as he almost certain-
ly will). And to push him on repealing Obama-
care, and not to let the Congress (including, es-
pecially, Republicans) get away with dragging
their feet on it.

I also want to admit that I was wrong. I really was wrong in saying Trump had zero chance at winning the election. We were this > < close to going over the cliff. Here's hoping we can turn this thing around to prevent going over in the near future...

I agree.

On a positive note, perhaps his country can regain some of those that left for the better dream America offered by way of all those voters swearing they'd leave the US if Donald Trump won the election.

Relax, Tom. You can now put the Left-wing Koolade back in the fridge and socialist name-calling hat back in the closet.

Nicely put, but you left out Islamaphobe.

That may work too.

maybe thats because they actually stand up for their country, and we havent until now...