Can Trump Pull Off "The Miracle On 5th Avenue?"

Posted by tjmalone 7 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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Knowing everything we now know, I think the choice is clear at this point. This article is an attempt to concisely summarize the case from Trump. It will be an interesting 48 hours.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 5 months ago
    For Trump to have gotten as far as he has is a miracle in itself. Should he win the election it would be a tribute to his stamina, if nothing else. He was everywhere all the time while Clinton spent more and more millions without ever catching up with him. His bulldog tenacity illustrates how he became a billionaire. You may call him a buffoon, or several other less pleasant names, but personally, I have come to admire him.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 5 months ago
      I am also a recent admirer, as I have said before Donald Trump has withstood more relentless abuse from the media and pop culture than any candidate in my opinion. has grown substantially and often mentioned many common sense approaches to our country's issues. I am encouraged by the early election projections.
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      • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
        Well, he won !! I think he opened a crack in the crooked and politically correct establishment. He can't make America great again- but he can inspire US to make ourselves great and get government out of our way. THAT is what will make America great again !!
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    • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
      I have too Herb. Buffoons don't create $10 billion business empires. I would like to see the balance sheets of those who call him that. He can be justly criticized on plenty of issues, such as free trade, and we can complain about his anti-intellectualism, but I think we have to remember he spent his life as a businessman, not a politician or philosopher. Which brings to mind a quote of Ayn Rand's to the effect that "the reason most Americans are so anti-intellectual is because so many intellectuals are anti-American."
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 7 years, 5 months ago
    When the choice is between a buffoon and a criminal I will chose the buffoon every time. Less mischief that way.
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    • Posted by Zero 7 years, 5 months ago
      Serial sexual assault is a bye these days?

      He bragged on grabbing their crotch. Just another perk of being the billionaire in the room.
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      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 5 months ago
        Just in the interest of clarity, he said "they let you" talking about how some women throw themselves at the famous. Not actually sexual assault.

        That would be Bill Clinton.
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        • Posted by Zero 7 years, 5 months ago
          He was famous and popular and women threw themselves at him, too.
          But yes, Bill Clinton was a sexual predator.
          No doubt.

          But not your guy. He was different.

          Okaay. I got nothin' WS.
          People see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 6 months ago
    Me dino be thinking of the "forlorn hope" in Bernard Cornwell's Richard Sharpe series of novels mostly about the First Napoleonic War.
    Want a promotion badly enough? Volunteer to attack that first breech made in a French fort's walls.
    Most of those who "goes into the breech" with that group called "the forlorn hope" gets killed.
    Yeah, not everyone can be that Richard Sharpe fictional character.
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  • Posted by diessos 7 years, 6 months ago
    I doubt it. The electoral college map does not look good for Trump. The Dems seem to have the big states (Northeast, Californai, North West & Illinois). Republicans have more states but with smaller electoral college counts (Except Texas). Very hard for a republican to get to 270. Bush barely did it in 2000 and 2004. Since then the electorate has changed and has become more liberal/socialist. We need to get more college students reading and understanding Ayn Rand.
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    • Posted by 7 years, 6 months ago
      I am hoping we can spot Trump a couple of points due to the amount of people who won't admit they are voting for him. I agree completely with your larger point about educating the young... that's the only long term solution. Even with $20 trillion in debt hanging over their heads due to this generation of socialists, millennials still warm to it due to the altruist-collectivist indoctrination they've had since they entered grade school.
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      • Posted by diessos 7 years, 5 months ago
        That is because the "progressives" (liberal-socialists) have taken over the education system. Students are taught that making money and corporations are evil nefarious people who pollute the planet and hoard all the money. Even if we changed that right now, it will take 20-30 years for it to take effect.
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
      I think the electoral college is a sham. It needs to be eliminated as it gives some of us more of a vote than others, depending on where we live, Its like the superdelegates that the dems had in their primary. Its fodder for the crooked to manipulate. I think Trump will win the popular vote but lose the electoral vote. Too bad for all of us if that happens.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 5 months ago
        It might be a tad early but , congratulations term2
        You have been the staunchest Trump supporter I have seen in the gulch!
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        • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
          Now that he won, the real work begins I thought that he really does want the best for the country. He didn't have to get into politics and spend his our money to do it. He has a great business, a great family, and more $$ than he could spend

          I thought Hillary was a great danger to our country and needed to be defeated. And tonight she WAS defeated.
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          • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 5 months ago
            Trump has everything he needs to improve our countries direction .I expect a safer border, a govt with less corruption than the Clintons, ACA rolled back, unproven and unproductive regulations changed, the constitution will be better preserved. he won't telegraph our countries moves to the enemy.
            I suppose looking into the future Michelle Obama will carry the collectivist torch.
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            • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
              She reminds me of a backup singer for the Supremes girl band of Motown fame.

              Trump sure doesnt give up easily at all. I think he will be successful at all the things you noted above. I am inspired to make my own life better, and as a side result make the country a little "greater"
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  • Posted by diessos 7 years, 5 months ago
    WOW... i am stunned that he ACTUALLY DID IT....
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
      He did say that he never gives up. Its inspirational , actually, and THATS what will help make america great again. As president, all he can do is inspire us and get government OUT of the way. Hillary certainly could do neither of those things.
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 7 years, 5 months ago
    I don't think I've ever seen an election where so many people on both sides were so confident their candidate would win.
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    • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
      I'm not at all confident that my candidate will win, but I'm hopeful that he gets at least 5% of the vote.
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      • Posted by XenokRoy 7 years, 5 months ago
        I have no candidate that is on the ticket so I certainty do not think my write in will win. While I did not vote for Johnson I would still like to see him get 5%, or even 10%. Even if it means Hillary wins. We wont change things until people stop thinking binary in elections, because as long as we vote against someone rather than for someone we will not get a good person in.

        By good I mean someone who respects the idea that the same rule of law applies to all, small constitutionally limited federal government and capitalism (which means truly free markets).

        Does that person even exist in politics for the office of president any longer? Not so sure they do. Our politics have slid so far to the liberal socialist side that even the less socialist are also socialist lights. Not sure we will ever see a good option again until the nonsense leads to something catastrophic that humbles us and makes us face reality as a culture.

        I am likely destine to write in someone for president for the rest of my future voting years.
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      • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 5 months ago
        Unfortunately, it didn't happen. The official Johnson/Weld site hasn't been updated, but this news site answers the question: http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/how-man...

        On the bright side, marijuana for general use went 5-0. There will now be 9 states + DC where it is locally legal.
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        • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
          At least Gary Johnson tripled the LP's best previous showing, and his vote totals will make ballot access easier in many states next time around. I expect we will have two new candidates on the ballot in 2020.
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          • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
            Hopefully more intellectually consistent than the current candidate
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            • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 5 months ago
              Yes, the Libertarians will probably pick a more libertarian candidate next time.
              Have you gotten over your last minute fear of Hillary, term? Told you Trump was looking good if you just looked at the larger polls. Nevada didn't help though. Too damn many CA comrades now living in Vegas?.
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              • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                So the electoral college defeated hildebeast of all things ! I was surprised and encouraged the clintons are done. We get a bit of a reprieve from some really bad stuff for a few years. I will not waste the time

                Nevada is falling in line with the California statistics- much different from the Wild West Nevada of the 1990s when I left California to come here.
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                • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 5 months ago
                  This election is the perfect example of why the electoral system was devised. It helps keep large city populations (of unrealistic looter drones) from overwhelming and enslaving non-urban producers.
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                  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                    I am not sure I understand how that works. I always figured the quantity of electoral votes per state was the result of political corruption in some way. Its ironic that Hillary lived by the sword, and died by the sword- she got a majority of voters, but lost the election by the electoral system, which she figured she was going to win by !
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                    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 5 months ago
                      Electoral votes are based upon population plus 2 per state, exactly in the same way as the congress. Senate: 2 per state House: 438 total districts spread to the states (and DC) based on state population. The district boundaries can be gerrymandered, but unless there is a hidden conspiracy to manipulate the census, the electoral votes are pretty clean. So a very small state gets a minimum of 3 electoral votes even if the population is tiny. Winning the low population states gets the candidate a small advantage over the candidate who wins a few populous states by a large margin, as Hitlery did in CA, NY, and IL.
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                • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
                  I came here from California also, in 1990, and definitely notice the difference. The political landscape in Nevada is littered with Harry Reid-type Dems and RINO Republicans. They've always been around, but now they seem to have a lock on most elective offices. But at least we still don't have a state income tax.
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                  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                    They are creeping up on state taxes. They already figured a way to get business to pay a payroll tax- it kicked in for a payroll over $80,000 per quarter, and now its $50,000 per quarter. Soon it will be payable on all payroll. Now there is the "gross receipts tax" for companies that have sales over $4m per year. That number will come down in future years also. Time to look for another place to live I think.
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                  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 5 months ago
                    That is when I left LA for Phoenix. If not for a long term consulting contract in the south, I might still be there. Phoenix changed a lot for the socialist worse after I departed.
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                    • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                      I am seriously thinking of relocating in the Phoenix area. One of the few last bastions of decent medical care (Mayo clinic) happens to be there. If your consulting gig ran out, where would you go, if you would move at all.
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                      • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 5 months ago
                        I'm move to NZ or Australia in a heartbeat if I had the assets to clear immigration and get a passport there. (That is where I will go as a sales agent when our product testing is completed.)
                        I would have to research how to keep taxes down there, but I'm sure it can be done.
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              • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
                Even though they took several very unlibertarian positions and ran a less than flawless campaign, Johnson and Weld still accomplished quite a bit. They tripled the LP’s previous presidential vote totals. They were a key factor in Trump’s victory, drawing some votes from Hillary and, more importantly, acting as a “safety valve” for #NeverTrump Republicans and independents by drawing votes from them that would otherwise have gone to Hillary. Over the election season Johnson polled as high as 12%, revealing a large group of voters who are fed up with both major parties and willing to seriously consider third-party candidates who are more in line with their views. These voters will at least consider Libertarian candidates in future elections. And the LP received unprecedented media coverage this year, including endorsements by half a dozen major newspapers. Not all the coverage was positive or sympathetic, but the same certainly also holds true for the major parties.

                The bottom line is that even though the Johnson/Weld campaign was far from 100% libertarian and far from 100% perfect, it was powerful enough to decisively break through the 1% ceiling and lay a foundation for the LP’s continued growth.
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                • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                  When the people are ready, the leader will arise.

                  We need to wait until more people are ready before we expect to succeed politically. I so wanted Johnson to be consistently libertarian. He had to soften his positions in order to get any support at all, I suspect.
                  Example- legalize POT, but keep other drugs illegal as they are now. INCONSISTENT. And you lose the philosophical high ground by doing that. Weld was an idiot from Massachusetts, an awful place.
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