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Why I am voting for Trump

Posted by richrobinson 8 years, 7 months ago to The Gulch: General
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The election is less than one week away and I am voting for Donald trump. I see the country as the Titanic heading for the iceberg. Trump may not be perfect but I think he will at least start to turn us away from certain disaster. Hillary will step on the accelerator and destroy what is left of this once great country. I may be wrong but like Dagney and Hank I want to fight til the bitter end.


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  • Posted by rbunce 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Electoral College is fine.. defends the interests of the State per the Constitution. State Legislatures could fix the faithless elector issue or just go back to directly appointing them per the US Constitution and do away with the Presidential Primaries and Elections fraught with much of what you mention. Also eliminate the 17th Amendment and have the State Legislature appoint their Senators as well. People would pay more attention to their State Legislature if they picked the President and Senate... a sound plan set up by the founding fathers.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would pay to sit in the oval office in a corner when he confronts the crooked appointees in the government. Drain the swamp is a GREAT slogan for whats needed. Why does our government have to be a swamp?
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If Trump gets rid of Obamacare, appoints constitutionally aware supreme court justices, and cuts the tax rates and regulations so we can actually survive government, and stops the excess immigration of unknown people who will not add to our country- I will be happy.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Voting for a person KNOWN to be crooked cant be good.

    I think that when a person is actually under investigation by the FBI or under some local criminal investigation, they shouldnt be allowed to run for public office, period. Its unfair to the voters and can make a real mess if they are elected and then found guilty.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Kaine is an annoying idiot, as shown in the VP debate awhile ago. Very annoying and will get NO support.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    the electoral college should just be abolished. Needless complexity and crookedness.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump doesnt HAVE to be president. He has a great family, good business, and could enjoy the rest of his life as he has up till now. He spent a lot of his own cash running the campaign. His kids are remarkable and dont just pop out of a box- they are representative of the real Trump, and I think thats pretty remarkable too.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He has hired thousands of people and paid them out of his business successes. Hillary hasnt paid for one of her employees- its been paid by our tax money or her crooked foundation.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
    Exactly. Even if one doesnt "like" Trump, he can only help the country, and he isnt going to push the nuclear button out of anger.

    On the other hand, Hillary will, through the same incompetence that brought us Benghazi and the Iran deal, back us into some corner like the syrian no fly zone ending up in a conflict with Russia.
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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 7 months ago
    I will write in myself. There is no reason to believe that Donald Trump will steer away from the iceberg and even if he did as the Titanic realized they were in immediate danger they were so close that turning of the wheel did not change the outcome or even reduce it. I still maintain that for probably more than 100 years the only difference between the two candidates is what lie they will tell to get elected. Once elected the results are the same no matter which one wins. If anything what might happen will be that fewer chains are added, if any are taken away it will be far less than those added. We are slaves of the state and not destined for any liberty or freedoms to be restored.
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  • Posted by drthorn 8 years, 7 months ago
    Love Donald Trump! I can't wait until he gets in office and the business begins to bloom again in our area of rural Mississippi. 20 years ago we had plenty of jobs and choices. The millennials were too young then, to understand that now.
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  • Posted by cjferraris 8 years, 7 months ago
    At first, I was going to abstain from voting because I was no fan of either major party. I too, was caught up in the media spin. Between the liberal spin and the conservative spin thought that Hillary was evil and that the GOP could not come together to change a burnt out lightbulb. I was going to just sit it out so that I could say that no matter how screwed up the country got after the election, I could say that it wasn't because of me. After watching a copy of AS with my friend, we were discussing philosophy and bringing up quotes that we had been taught as a child. The two that we discussed the most were "Evil triumphs when good people do nothing", and "The tree of liberty was watered with the blood of patriots". We realized that the Founding Fathers risked EVERYTHING they had to bring this country (no matter how imperfect) together. I spent my time in the military defending everyone else's rights. There are young men and women today that are risking their lives each day to afford me that same freedom. At that point, I realized how selfish I was. Because I was trying to take the "high ground" by not voting, all I was going to do was squandering a hard, fought-for right. Instead, I've become the coward who just sits and complains about the way things are instead of doing something about it.

    If you do your due diligence about researching the people running for office, then you should vote. Whether it's because you are for someone or against the other, it's still a civic duty to make your voice heard.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 8 years, 7 months ago
    I understand your reasoning, but I would like to suggest a modification to your allegory:

    We are steaming ahead, both left and right engines going at 50%, towards the iceberg of collectivism/statism that I see as a floating glacier... Like the Wall in Game of Thrones. Hillary will turn up the right engine about 5% and the left about 20%. Trump will turn up the right about 15% and the left about 10%. Both get us to that disaster just as fast, its just a difference of which part of it we will hit.

    We need someone to turn things back to individualism, not just to one or the other type of collectivism.
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  • Posted by rbunce 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ... and no telling what news about either candidate comes out after the Election but before the EC vote... leading to a US House Vote...
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for the info. It doesn't look like the third party candidates are polling out of single digits in either place.

    And, of course, faithless electors are unpredictable and could even happen in this very weird year, especially if Trump wins because this is the year of establishment vs outsiders and electors are usually part of the establishment.
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  • Posted by rbunce 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually ME and NE award EC votes for winning Congressional District vote... and of course faithless electors.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Other than a tie, the only way that happens is if one of the third party candidates actually wins a state. Since they are generally polling in single digits with the exception of Evan McMullen who is polling a bit over 20 in Utah in the latest poll, that doesn't seem likely.

    The heavy anti-Trump effort put forward by Mitt Romney is bearing fruit, but even there Trump is leading and McMullen is third.
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  • Posted by rbunce 8 years, 7 months ago
    Voted Johnson/Weld. Still hoping Mr. Trump keeps it close to Sec Clinton and nobody gets to 270 in the EC so the new US House decides among the top three EC (or popular?) votes received.

    Another thing I thought of today that does not seem to get much mention in the press. Could be the two major party candidates are the most likely to be impeached ever... I am sure many Rs in the House would vote to impeach Trump to get Pence as President and many Ds may join them unless they just want to go full politics. Senate with Ds and many Rs would vote to convict. Certainly the House Rs would vote to impeach Clinton... doubt they could get conviction in the Senate though unless it was really bad and Kaine seems beatable in primary in 2020.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have heard Political Correctness defined as, "Picking up a Turd, by the clean end."
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 7 months ago
    I will vote for Trump, but with crossed fingers. I think he can win. What I'm not sure about is if he will turn into a tyrant once in office. But Shrillary is guaranteed death to what remains of our Constitutional form of government. If he gets elected, we'll get an indication of what kind of Prez he will be depending on who he nominates for the Supreme Court.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Check what Coulter says Hillary is offering male voters.
    https://blabber.buzz/politics/conservative/50005-coulter-my-final-argument-for-trump-humiliate-the-media
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