What Does It Mean "to Shrug"?

Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 10 months ago to Economics
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I hear people say they're a few years away from shrugging or they're considering shrugging. What does that mean? I have thought of five levels of shrugging.

5. Try Something New: Sell or close one business and start doing paid work in some form and/or start a business in less regulated industry. Keep your wealth invested as before.
4. Partially Retire: Stop working for money but keep your wealth invested as before and possibly act as an angel investor and mentor for entrepreneurs just starting or take occasional consulting projects.
3. Fully Retire: Stop all paid work in all forms. Invest all wealth in large funds that don't require any management work on your part. Make no angel investments and no real estate investments except for REITs that require no work or management involvement on your part, apart from passively reading prospectuses. Accept no paid positions on boards and no indirect payments of any kind. You can still do unpaid work like helping your kids do repairs, but just for the joy of it, not in trade.
2. Fully Retire with No Investments – Put all your wealth in things that don't generate new income or value, such as precious metals and undeveloped land. You can sell the land and metals to get money to spend at for-profit businesses to provide for your needs, but you personally are not trying to make any profit or taxable income.
1. Atlas-Shrugged Shrug: Take all the wealth you can carry to a hidden “Gulch” settlement. Destroy the rest to the extent it's practical. Abandon or destroy all wealth that exists on the outside world.

Numbers 5 through 3 still involve a lot of participation in the economy and are things even people with no problems with the government do. With #2, you've mostly checked out but you're still feeding the economy by consuming goods and services.

I love the notion that there might be small secret Gulches of sorts were people could move. I hope people build a large one, maybe a non-secret Gulch, within my lifetime.

Assuming there's not a secret Gulch you know of, what does it mean to say, “I'm frustrated with the gov't, and I'm considering _shrugging_ at some point in the next five years.” What does that mean?


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  • Posted by Bobhummel 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    KH,
    The American Dream is being supplanted by the Utopian Dream. More accurately the Utopian nightmare of tyranny of subjugation and servitude to the state masters that decide what your hopes and dreams SHOULD be. What your abilities should be. What your level of production should be. What your "fair share" contribution to the collective should be. What your thoughts should be. Where your devotion to the collective should be.

    From those according to their ability, to those according to their need.
    It makes me sick. I shrug Utopia and all that it represents. Death.
    Cheers
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  • Posted by bassboat 9 years, 10 months ago
    The American Dream to me means no government. Unfortunately impossible due to mankind's nature to create things such as a structure that we know as government. All governments fail since the majority all believe it will be different this time (Ask Argentina) and Santa Claus is real. The best we can do is to limit government to 5-10% of our income in taxes. A step in the right direction would be only allowing those who pay taxes to vote.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "if you're a working middle-class family man in America you are seen as nothing more than livestock and a source of revenue"
    Thank you for your comment. I notice your use of the passive voice: "you are seen [by some group] as nothing more..." I think what you're saying is you don't care what that unnamed group sees you as, and I agree completely. There are countless groups who see you as all kinds of things.
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  • Posted by Maritimus 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey, "Jay the Burner" I want to hug you. This is the first time I saw someone else use my favorite name for it: Social Insecurity. I love you for it.
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  • Posted by Maritimus 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that many people came to this country deliberately to change the way they were living in the country of origin. To decide to escape communist paradise is no brainer. Once you were exposed to innovations coming from U.S., you wanted to go there if your craving was to innovate. I am a good example. I was on payroll the day after I disembarked in New York City. It isn't that easy any more.
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  • Posted by Maritimus 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that a very important reason for going back "outside" was recruiting the new "Gulch members" i.e. find more who would shrug. It is "by invitation".
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Silly me. I thought that leaving the military for a profit oriented company would better focus folks attention on solid objectives and everyone would be pulling in a common direction. It's no different, other than the pay is much better.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "galting" sounds like a sub-process in the creation of Rearden Metal... :)
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  • Posted by hrymzk 9 years, 10 months ago

    First of all, remember that Galt's Gulch in the NOVEL, is a respite until the collapse of the moocher's world. That happens and Galt and all the others start back into the world at the end of the novel to remake it in a producers' construct..
    So, essentially we have to face the realities of the real world. As I see it, the US will descend into an England social-welfare type state. Democracy favors the will of the masses. Social-welfare programs over individual responsibility/self-realization. That is, the primary purpose of the politician under the current democratic construct is to get re-elected.. The easiest way for that, as we see, is pass social-welfare programs to get re-elected
    The bottom line for that is TERM LIMITS FOR ALL POLITICIANS. The only question is if enough of us are smart enough to get enough people together to get that accomplished.
    To save the founding principles of the United States. Written on this July 4 weekend from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

    Harry M
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 10 months ago
    Interesting commentary.

    I have had things happen in my life over the past decade that have made me sure that if you're a working middle-class family man in America you are seen as nothing more than livestock and a source of revenue. I have adjusted my life in response in my own style of going Galt. I no longer participate in charity. I actually work more, but that's because I am self-employed. I do it only to help me, my wife and kids. Some of the work I do places me in a very good place, financially.

    Being awake may be the first step in going Galt, in my case.
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  • Posted by genemcdonough 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While not AS oriented, this "plan" looks to me as a helpful was to work individually to "starve the beast" - http://sniggle.net/TPL/index5.php?entry=... without having to disappear into the north woods. Reducing your "income footprint" to the point where "they" don't get to keep what you earn yet you are abiding by "their" rules should contribute to the end of this farce. Much like the Strikers, do your low level job well and you will have as much job security as there is these days. As noted in some other comments, if you are too skilled you become unpromotable, yet no employer will lay you off. I believe the key is to reduce your expenses as much as possible. Then even a small income will more than meet your needs.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm intrigued by the notion people moving to a different place to live deliberately. I'd love to read more about it.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is better in some endeavors than others. I agree it's a huge problem, but don't give up looking for ways to get way from it.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah. We're not obsessed with it, and so far they're not. If on some basic level every adult when faced with a need or desire thought, "what can I do to serve/help someone else to get this in a fair trade?" many problems would disappear.
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  • Posted by lookdad 9 years, 10 months ago
    I'm starting to keep bees and raise chickens, and hope to raise goats soon as well. My wife and I bought a house with 7 acres on the outskirts of Murfreesboro, TN, and I'm trying to get off the grid. At some point, I'm hoping that I can make less money from my day job because I'm raising most of my food - and I also have solar panels that I simply need to mount, and well water. If you have no bills, you don't need US currency!
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  • Posted by coyote315 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh i'm a "negative economic footprint" i use my VA and military retirement money to pay for just such a homestead.... you're welcome to come out sometime. i stop short of proactive kinetic contributions to hasten the demise of the parasitocracy, but only because i'm just not that concerned. i'll let the world burn without troubling myself to blow on the embers...
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  • Posted by coyote315 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    i do? what an inconvenience! Or perhaps i do not. Perhaps it is merely a cost-benefit analysis for my own comfort
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