About Evan McMullin

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 6 months ago to Government
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An interesting guy here, seems to have a lot of positions that resonate with people in the Gulch, especially around government and politics. Joined the party a little late, but may be worth looking at. Seems a mix of Libertarian and old Republicrat.


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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 6 months ago
    Just a wee bit late, but perhaps he's prepping for 2020. If he truly is interested in running, where was he 6 months ago? Or maybe he just wants to burn off some excess money. He seems like a right guy, but with such questionable timing, I wonder at his sincerity. Just testing the waters? I suppose we'll see.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 8 years, 6 months ago
    Several problems with McMullin. Like Johnson, he doesn't have a chance in hell these elections. Superpac funded in part by Soros front company. Donated to Hillary and Clinton Foundation. Has received donation from Clinton Foundation. This is the old mythological Trojan horse. He's the patsy brought to you by Never Trumpers Bill Kristol, Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck. May talk a good line, but look at Hillary. She talks a good line, based on over 30 years of doing so, but she's corrupt to the core. No Johnny come lately is going to beat Hillary, rather, help her by distracting from her legacy of deceit. No need to wonder, I support the big mouth, former playboy, non-politician, goal oriented businessman Trump and the cool, calm and collected Pence.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I look at Trump as a way to slow down the crony crooked stuff thats been going on. The shady regulatory deals, the crooked foreign relations disasters and wars that benefit the munitions manufacturers and others at our expense, and the high taxes that permit all this stuff. Trump is no libertarian but he has exposed the crap that goes on in the election process and how hard it is for anyone to mount a third party campaign and actually win in an electoral college system.

    A welcome change for 4 years. We have tried the establishment and there is no reason to think that following its rules will suddenly produce better results than it has in the past.

    Trump is not a libertarian by any stretch, but he can help remake the system so perhaps a libertarian has a chance in the future. Hillary will cement the control of the establishment with her cronyism, and it will be harder for third parties in the future. Look at what she did to Bernie Sanders this time (and the idiot is campaigning for her now !!! Did he get bought off too?)
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A few facts you may not know, but the CIA and FBI both commonly recruit at BYU (and Mormons in general). Why? First, many of them speak a second language fluently (as a result of their voluntary missionary program) and they understand the people because they spent time with them. That's invaluable field intelligence experience they (the CIA/FBI) get for free. Second, Mormon theology holds honesty and family of very high importance so Mormons who work for the CIA/FBI are the very lowest risk category for espionage, etc. That's a lot of plusses you don't find in the common applicant.

    I don't agree with McMullin on all his policies, but I would take a Mormon at their word over many others - and most especially the two major candidates. I don't think he has a realistic prayer of winning - even in Utah - but I'd vote for him before I'd vote for either Trump or Hillary.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump might win anyway. A lot of Gary Johnson's support comes from unhappy Democrats who would reluctantly vote for Hillary if Johnson were not in the race.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actions are much more important than words.
    "Best indicator of future behavior is past behavior," Henry Bowman
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have known mormons. There are a lot of them in Las Vegas , where I live, and I have seen them use their political influence and powers to promote THEIR religion, to the detriment of non-believers.
    I dont like that part, which is why I am inclined to call it a cult. There are documentaries that show how it IS a cult, but I havent been close enough to personally see that.

    This said, their fiscal ideas are quite good, as are the family values they espouse. I just wouldnt want one to be president and be in a position to push their religious beliefs off on me or use their power to enforce them.

    Plus the fact that it is a "religion" based on fixed ideas sent down from some prophet and enforced by the grand dragon in salt lake city.

    I am very tolerant of other religions like mormonism, and I wish THEY were as tolerant of my views on life. I can be friends with mormons, but I would have to realize that whatever their religion told them to do, thats what they would do regardless of rationality
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Have you ever even talked to a real Mormon? Ever listened to anything their leaders say? I'm betting no since you refer to them using the same lingo as the KKK.

    They are not a "cult". They are the fastest-growing philosophical/religious movement in the world and they have congregations in nearly every nation. If you look up any worldwide catastrophe, you will see their people there on the ground helping out and distributing aid - under the radar. One of their "grand dragons" as you want to call him, Ezra Taft Benson, actually headed the Department of Agriculture under Dwight Eisenhower. Want to know what he was against? Farm subsidies. And he grew up a farmer! Want to know why he was against subsidies? Because he opposed the idea of government welfare and felt like everyone should work to support their own. What a novel concept, eh?

    I know a few Mormons and they are some of the nicest people you will ever meet, and some of the best patriots as well. They certainly have their kooks like Harry Reid as well, so there is a grain of salt. You may not know this, but the Bundy family, Finicum families and Hammond families are all Mormons.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Before hypothesizing, why not actually go read his position statements? I've listened to a couple of his statements and though I don't agree with him on everything, he's got by far the best foreign policy ideas of any eligible candidate - including Gary Johnson. Don't pan the man's past until you can demonstrate that those connections rule his political ambitions.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 6 months ago
    Actually, why not just write me, Radio Randy, in?

    I've never had an affair, groped women, run in corrupt political circles or abandoned dates to drown in my car. I, also, know virtually nothing about politics, but carry a copy of the Constitution with me, daily. These facts, alone, probably make me more qualified than either of the top two candidates for President.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He is also a card carrying member of the mormon cult. He will do what their grand dragon says to do- some of which might be good, but the intolerance mormons show to non believers reminds me a bit of islam.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
    He is a mormon and will do whatever the grand dragon of the mormons say. A lot of what the grand dragon says is actually not bad- fiscal responsibility and family values. BUT, they are very intolerant of anyone who does not go along with their grand dragon. Its a CULT, plain and simple.

    I would never want a cult to run our government. Neither would most people. And I dont want some crooked woman running our government either.

    That leaves Johnson (who cant possibly win), and Trump (who might if the trump haters get a life and realize the alternative is crooked hillary this time, period.)
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good one, nick ;^) Based on the polls there are a lot of NSA employees in Utah... over 20% of the people in the latest poll are for McMullin.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Johnson created a company from nothing in the free market with his own hands and mind a la Hank Rearden. He then worked against the enemy as governor of New Mexico.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wouldn't know I am not cleared for that information and I deleted all the emails..er scrubbed...er my server blew up..
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Freedom, show me a candidate who HASN"T been working for the enemy. That is the problem...
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago
    Hmmm, his home state of Utah is the location of the big NSA facility, isn't it?
    Guess he could get the NSA employee vote.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actions are much more important than words.
    Johnson's actions as governor and even his resposes after stumbling on air in his campaign indicate an ethical person. I don't agree with some of his propsals, but I do agree with the most important ones and I think those could make the others a non issue in reality. I think it is much more likely that Johnson can learn presentation skills than for Trump (or Hitlery) to suddenly become ethical, or for McMullin to suddenly want to restrict government power when his entire adult life experience is working to expand government.
    Based on McMullin's actions and experience:
    (1) CIA operative -BIG NEGATIVE
    (2) Goldman Sachs operative - BIG NEGATIVE
    (3) GOP Committee on Foreign Relations operative - BIG NEGATIVE
    McMullin has been working for the enemy his entire life. No chance I trust that he is telling the truth as a candidate.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago
    It is strange this guy comes out of the Mormon woods, educated at Brigham Young, goes to the CIA, hits Goldman Sachs and then becomes a DC insider, who is adamantly against big government. Honesty is not anything anyone in politics thinks is required or desired, just the good soundbite. But with the garbage choices we have today...
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Go look at his page, and then tell me that he is worse than Trump, The Beast of Gary Johnson. He st leasts sounds rational about issues. Trump and the Beast both are screaming insane people and Johnson, when he can talk, is somewhat tolerable,until stuff like this rolls out:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/gary-johns...
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting point. Gary Johnson has just been almost Trump like in his little faux pas, this guy, though an unknown, appears to at least be literate and intelligent on issues. He was interviewed on Fox and came out really good compared to Trumps weird scowls and screams of rage.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 6 months ago
    He is backed by some anti-Trump Republicans.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Mc...

    McMullin is polling high in Utah, where he was born, and could carry the state. If he does, then since Utah has 6 electoral votes and New Mexico has only 5, Gary Johnson would have to carry more than his home state to place third in nationwide electoral votes and be considered for President by the House of Representatives.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago
    Former CIA operative doesn't sound libertarian. Sounds more like trying to siphon votes from the libertarian party using an agent provocateur to maintain statist control. Just suspicious to me. Combine that with woking for Goldman Sachs and in Committee on Foreign Relations and he sounds like a complete insider with no experience or connection to the private sector or ordinary people. Big thumbs down on McMullin.
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