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The REAL Gary Johnson Lays Out a Sane, Coherent, Skeptical Foreign Policy

Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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Watch the video at the end of this article to hear Johnson's policies with emphasis on foreign policy. Johnson is the only candidate for president who understands and has a foreign policy based on underlying American values and guided by the US Constitution.

This speech reveals a real ethical leader, a statesman.
SOURCE URL: http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/11/gary-johnson-lays-out-foreign-policy


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  • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
    Anyone who has had doubts based on Gary Johnson's presentation skills must hear this speech.
    No high tech teleprompter here, just a man explaining his bedrock committment to Americans.
    The Q & A session is also istructive. Be sure to listen to Johnson's comments about other leaders at about 31 minutes in the video. Also comments on NSA domestic spying on Americans at 38:30. Free market health care comments at 54 minutes. Very revealing comments.
    Gary Johnson is the candidate who deserves your vote.
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    • Posted by $ puzzlelady 7 years, 5 months ago
      Thank you, Freedomforall, you are right all the way. Some people are just hard to convince. Maybe a few here will rethink their reasons and come around to Johnson.
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    • Posted by edweaver 7 years, 5 months ago
      I so wish he had a chance to win. My only hope, is if the Donald gets in this time, he disrupts the system enough to set some 3rd party up to win next time. I'd vote for someone -all Iike Johnson in a heartbeat.
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      • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
        You got it !! The system NEEDS to be disrupted, and thats why there is so much vitriol against him from seemingly all sides. The GOP was dead in the water before Trump, and its pretty stupid for them to go after him so much. Whats left? Jeb Bush?
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
      He has the right ideas. Picking a president currently is not done on this basis, however. Its some sort of popularity contest that picks the one who doesnt look "bad" in unimportant but PC ways.
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      • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
        We can decide how the president is picked, but WE have to act rationally and vote based on principles as the founders of freedom did when they established this country. THEY did not cower in fear and act against what they knew was right.
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        • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
          I am coming to the conclusion that the government is so crooked and filled with cronyism today that it is pretty much useless to vote at all. Trump was trying to reign it in a bit, and he was villified and hated for that. Johnson would have NO chance if he actually posed a threat to Hillary. The establishment would decimate him in the eyes of the low rent electorate.

          I doubt Dagny Taggart or Hank Rearden or John Galt actually voted in AS. It took complete collapse of the society to make people see what was wrong. I think that will be required today before it makes any more sense to get involved in politics. Efforts at education (I liked Johnson's speech on foreign relations) over a LONG period of time will pay off, but political action is useless.

          The demise of Trump is the straw that broke the camels back for me. No more interest in politics during the rest of my lifetime.
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 5 months ago
    Too bad he hasn't been included in any of the debates.
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    • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
      I agree that would be helpful, but the "debates" are a media manipulated Hillary promotion vehicle. There is NOTHING relevant in them.
      The debates are designed to hide Hillary's guilt as a traitor, to expose Trump's weaknesses, and to exclude any discussion of substantive issues.
      As for the "participants", Trump is a dangerous insulting clown. Hillary is a ... I can't describe her accurately in polite company, but Hillary deserves public execution for her crimes.
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      • Posted by edweaver 7 years, 5 months ago
        I think there would have been something relevant in them if Johnson had been allowed in.
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        • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
          I would have hoped that, too, but seeing how the media "moderators" stomp all over Trump during the debate, I would expect them to do the same to Johnson. If I was in such a "debate" i would become angry (as might Johnson.)
          The "debates" are even more obviously rigged than the process of selecting candidates.
          A real debate would be devastating for Hillary and Trump. Neither one of them is capable of a "straight answer" that rationally presents solutions. They are addicted to lies and obfuscation.
          With a fair moderator, Gary Johnson would destroy them with honest answers that connect with voters real concerns.
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          • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
            Instead of running for president in this environment, I would suggest that Johnson would be better off spending the campaign money to "educate" through speeches and other educational venues without directly going after (and therefore threatening) the establishment so soon. Once he has traction, THEN politics would be more appropriate.
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            • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
              I would suggest that if Donnie Trump had any ethics and actually wanted to "Make America Great Again" he would throw his support to Gary Johnson, a candidate with answers instead of rhetoric.
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                Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                that would insure Hillary wins. No thanks on that one. Johnson would have NO chance in 2020 then, nor would any other 3rd party candidate
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                • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                  Trump is toast.
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                  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                    The system IS rigged, and it would turn on Johnson too. It needs to be unrigged and the selection process be turned into an analysis of the real qualifications of the person going forward- not what they did 11 years ago. Johnson would be killed off because of his pot smoking when the media got to him. His positions wouldnt matter at that point.
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                    • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
                      In today's culture, previous pot smoking is no longer the serious issue that it would have been a few decades ago. Younger voters might even be turned off by a candidate that had never smoked pot.
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                      • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                        I do think that the establishment, if threatened by a candidate. would be successful at painting Johnson as a druggie not suitable for the presidency. How do we know he wont gravitate to cocaine or something else???
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                        • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                          Because almost none of us have gravitated to cocaine or something else. Johnson didn't grow his company or run the state of New Mexico by being high all the time just as most voters who have used marijuana do not let it run their lives and ruin their businesses.

                          Does the president have to submit to drug testing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
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                          • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                            I was implying that the opposition would engender the fear he MIGHT gravitate to harder drugs because he has a propensity for drug use. Not that he would of course, but MIGHT.

                            President would never have to submit to such a test !!!.. We ought to make teachers and school administrators submit the same drug tests that industry required. Almost ALL the academic people I know would flunk cold !!!
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                            • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                              The opposition would try and fail because we know the effects of the drug personally. (hypothetically of course ;^)

                              Funny. I remember a high school teacher who passed a drug test because he was stoned at the time of the test. (That was long ago. Likely testing is much better now.)
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                              • Posted by strugatsky 7 years, 5 months ago
                                Many of tests are not really tested. Depending on the purpose, some only use a subset of the samples. In my experience, less than 50% of the random tests are actually ran through the lab. Specific, targeted tests are analyzed 100%.
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                              • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                                They would use the fear of what would happen with his fingers on the nuclear trigger when he went for harder drugs in the future ( or the past). Its always the fear of "what if..." that they use. Cant refute it but it has its effect on voting.
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                                • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                                  BUt they still wouldn't get any traction because the voters understand the concept personally, so they won't be afraid.
                                  Heck, 38% aren't afraid of Trump (but scarded to death of Hillary) and 44% aren't afraid of Hillary (but scared to death of Trump.) Voters can be irrationally fearless and fearful at the same time ;^) Its a crazy world, term.
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                    • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                      It has already turned on Johnson, term. However, since the majority of the electorate already knows Johnson has smoked, and they have also smoked, it would likely be a positive for Johnson, especially among the young.
                      Since Trump is history, now you can Finally Vote on Principle for the only good candidate. That will do more for fixing the system than Trump would ever do.
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                      • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                        You know that his impact on this election is ZERO. We will get Hillary, perhaps no matter what anyone does at this point. Consider why they vote for Hillary- even though she has tremendous negatives but people wanted Obama with no experience, and her as a crook. I am preparing for the disaster of Hillary, and getting ready to lay off half our workforce before the $15/hour comes in.
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                  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 5 months ago
                    So is Johnson; but as far as the commie controlled "debates" go along with the campaign to destroy a for really real Republic, it's easier to throw mud at one candidate than two.
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                    • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                      good point about the debates, dino.
                      As for the "so is Johnson", I reply that is even more reason to vote on principle instead of in fear.
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                      • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 5 months ago
                        I have even more reason to vote Trump due to an evil smear.
                        Me dino a poet~
                        Didn't you know it?
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                        • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                          Trump evilly smeared himself, and doesn't deserve anyone's vote. Never did. Never will.
                          You could wait until the Dem's puppet media drops the next bombshell.
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                          • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                            Trump's sin was to expose the crooked establishment. Bill Clinton himself was far worse as a person, with evil witch Hillary backing him up. Johnson, if he ever got traction , would meet the same smear campaign fate as trump. Just his illegal pot smoking might be enough to trash him as a candidate. And his running mate most likely has a lot of dirt that would durface
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                            • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                              Rubbish. The heroes who exposed the corruption were Edward Snowden and Julian Assange. Trump did nothing heroic. Trump is a braggart and a boorish lout. Hillary's campaign has done many unethical things and they are traitors, but they told the truth about Trump. Johnson's pot smoking is not an issue since most voters have smoked pot.
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                              • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                                Well, Johnson is not a threat at all, and the establishment knows it. Therefore, they dont waste time and money on decimating him. But if he were more popular, he would get the same treatment as Trump did. Hillary offers goodies and access to government stuff for her supporters. Thats why they vote for her.

                                They hated Trump's message and it wouldnt have mattered if he were 98% squeaky clean- they would have found the 2% to bring him down. Its disgusting.

                                Hillary's campaign is one of propaganda and obfuscation of the real important issues. "exposing" Trump was just her backhanded way of neutralizing him as a threat to HER.

                                What Trump really did in this election campaign is exposed a lot of corruption in the election system. Not to minimize Snowden and Assange at all. They have done much. But Trump did show the media and the two parties to be corrupt as hell more than anyone else has done in modern times.
                                When Hillary gets elected, there will be a LOT of people who will be upset and never have the same feelings about this country as before.

                                That certainly includes me. She will NEVER be my president, and I have concluded that both parties as well as the entire election process are just hacks for big government, and she will cement that situation for good in the USA.
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                          • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 5 months ago
                            That last smear was bought and paid for.
                            So will the next.
                            For over two months me dino has wondered if the Clinton Crime Cartel would pull a Herman Cain to distract voters from Slick Willy's past.
                            Of course more bombs will drop.
                            Plenty more $$$$$$$$$$$$$ where that came from to pay for the ordinance.
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            • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
              You don't get "traction" or public attention in an election campaign by merely "educating" voters. By running for President, Gary Johnson is in fact providing an important "educational" service by showing voters that a reasonable alternative exists to the two "major party" candidates. If the LP did not have a candidate in the race, the most prominent third party candidate would be one to the left of Hillary.
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              • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                When the election system is rigged as it is now, and the media and the two parties are really hacks for big government, it is useless to actually spend money on a libertarian "candidate". As long as he is an unknown, the system leaves him alone. BUT, if he actually got some public attention, the system would drag him down as they are doing to Trump.
                I really think that giving speeches like he did on foreign relations gives people things to actually think about. In future years the numbers of people who embrace freedom and capitalism might actually increase to the point where those ideas would have some traction in the political arena.
                Apart from that, Johnson is sort of a buffoon when it comes to being interviewed. He giggles and just doesnt present Libertarian ideas very consistently and effectively. He wants pot decriminalized, but other drugs to stay illegal. Inconsistent and it actually damages the idea of personal freedom. This is why running for president at this point in time is bad- it encourages watering down the ideas so as to get a little more popularity.
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                • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
                  Re: “This is why running for president at this point in time is bad- it encourages watering down the ideas so as to get a little more popularity.” So at which point in time will it be appropriate for a libertarian to run for President? When 51% of the voters are Objectivist? Not gonna happen. The time to get libertarian ideas into the political marketplace is now, even if the candidate and his presentation skills are less than perfect. Watered down ideas are not as good as consistent ones, but at least they will get some of the voters thinking about the topic of individual liberty, and some of them will investigate further and join us.
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                • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                  At least Johnson HAS IDEAS and ETHICS.
                  Johnson is the ONLY candidate who actually talks about the ideas, accepts responsibility for what he does say, and actually was pro-liberty and pro-free markets when he was governor.
                  Just let Trump go, term. He has always had skeletons that were bound to show up, and the worst haven't even been exposed. Those are the ones that are held back for back room negotiations to control him if he had won the election.
                  The upside is you can now vote on principle and advance liberty instead of voting in fear for statists.
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                  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                    Trump has exposed the crookedness in the whole elelection system. It has caused me to just give up on the whole thing. Its too crooked and self protective to allow ANYONE who challenges it to get anywhere. Let the system collapse without my spending any time trying to slow it down. I am DONE.
                    This is the last election that I will be remotely interested in. I cant see anyone in the future with the stamina to resist the crooked establishment like Trump did. He wasted his money and my time- the establshment was never going to allow him to win, and Johnson would not get nearly as far as Trump did
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                    • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
                      I still give Trump a 50-50 chance of winning. His poll numbers seem to be holding up pretty well from the latest "scandal".
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                      • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                        I havent given up on him by any means. I am starting to prepare for Hillary win, if that happens. We will reduce our workforce by about 20% and transfer more work to china and automation before she gets a chance to enact $15/hr. Already we limit corporate profits to less than $50k a year to avoid the 35% income tax on income above that. That means cutting back on advertising and things that will expand the business. I am so DONE with financing this crooked establishment.
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                        • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
                          The crooked establishment will simply continue to borrow when the tax money runs out. I base my financial decisions solely on whether they benefit me, since they will have no impact on what the crooked establishment decides to do.
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                          • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                            Absolutely. The difficult part is that we rely on a stable dollar on which to base decisions, or at least a predictable dollar. Doing business with an unpredictable currency is very difficult to say the least.
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                            • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
                              Defintely! And we have not had a stable currency in years, unless a currency that continually declines in value (compared to goods and services) is considered stable. Its lost 2/3 of its value since 1980.
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                              • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
                                Having been around with the dinosaurs, I can remember in the mid 60's a mid size car cost like $3000. Same thing now costs $40,000 "dollars". Gold was $42 an ounce then, and $1300 now. Silver was $1.29 per ounce and now is more like $20. BUT that said, it happened slowly except for the late 70's when it reached 12% in one year. Now I would say its a covert 10% per year, and pretty stable at that.
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      • Posted by ProfChuck 7 years, 5 months ago
        It looks like the only choice is between crazy and criminal. Trump seems to be a psychopath and Hillary a sociopath. The founders were right when they said "The republic might last 100 years". Well, we beat that by more than another 100 but we are getting close to moribund. When asked "What should be done about ignorance and apathy?" the average citizens response is "I don't know and I don't care". That may well be the epitaph for the country.
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        • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
          No, Prof, with Trump's arrogance finally exposed and the women's vote destroying his chances, now you can vote based on principles for the candidate that deserves your vote, Gary Johnson.
          (Then it will be up to the republican congress to select Johnson when Hitlery doesn't get enough electoral votes.)
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          • Posted by ProfChuck 7 years, 5 months ago
            Johnson doesn't have a chance and Hillary's links to Soros and the Liberal-progressive movement makes her a choice that will surely destroy the country. I will hold my nose and vote for Trump mainly because I think he will do less damage than Hillary. It is a terrible situation. In the case of a tie for electoral college votes Johnson is a pipe dream.
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            • Posted by 7 years, 5 months ago
              Trump has self destructed with help from the media. Stop listening to Trump's delusions. A vote for Trump is a wasted vote.
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              • Posted by ProfChuck 7 years, 5 months ago
                You have just described a no win scenario. If Hillary wins it is the end of the country as we know it. If Trump wins the end is just delayed a bit but is still likely. My greatest fear is that you are right. Trump has one chance. He must reveal the media as the propaganda arm of the liberal-progressive movement and trators to the country. He might be able to pull that off, but I doubt it.
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
      They arent real debates, but just a means for the networks to make money with Pre- and Post- shows with lots of ads. Spring pre-planned stupid questions and "town halls" where the attendees and questions are "selected" is dumb.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 5 months ago
    Sane and coherent?
    That's his big mistake. No wonder he can't get very far.
    Sane and coherent -- Hah!
    No one can win being sane and coherent. try inane and babbling and you might get the voter's attention.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 5 months ago
    Johnson has less public appeal than Rand Paul, who had the same well articulated view of ill conceived foreign intervention. Our society is infatuated with celebrity, and until you find a magic potion to wake everybody up, sane governance doesn't stand a chance. I was a Rand Paul supporter until he withdrew, and I see much he and Johnson have in common, but this isn't the time. As Churchill said, "You can count on the Americans to always do the right thing, after they've tried everything else."
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  • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 5 months ago
    If we can believe the sources, Johnson does seem to recognize--and would have us believe this--that to win any war, you must strike at the enemy's ability to make war. For IS, it comes down to funding, not an industrial base or even on troop strength as is the case with conventional armies.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Those women who are horrified by Trump, but NOT Bill or Hillary Clinton on the whole issue of sex, are really out there. What do they think Trump would actually do that Bill Clinton didnt already do 10x over??
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 5 months ago
    EXACTLY !! Too bad the system is so corrupt and in bed with the media that he isnt getting any traction on this. We need to get rid of PC and the corruption so that a third party candidate has a shot in the future. We have 4 years to do it, but NOT if Hillary gets in this time. The system will be even MORE corrupt if that happens.
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