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I am voting for myself for president out of self-interest

Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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Inspired by the discussion linked above regarding reasons why an Objectivist should vote for Trump for president, I have decided to completely reject those premises.

I was told I wasted my vote when I voted libertarian for president in 2000 in the State of Florida where Bush beat Gore by 555 votes. Several friends said I should have voted for Tweedledee so that we wouldn't get Tweedledum for president. What we got was a month-long lawsuit brought by Tweedledum to try to "discern" my vote that cost the stock market 15%.

While I agree with Gary Johnson on the big picture, he has done just enough to make me not want to vote for him.

I have decided to write in myself in my vote for president. I am the only person who can govern me. As for the rest of you, given the opinions expressed in this forum, I should hope that each of you would vote for yourself, too. I have no interest in governing any of you either.


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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. We need to reduce governmental powers and money. Get rid of federal reserve
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We have a crooked establishment hack on one side and someone who is anti-establishment and who "polls" say is hated. Doesn't that mean to you that the vast majority just want a less crooked version of the establishment? The likely winner will be Hillary, and people won't like her but they will get their freebie goodies and their crony deals they paid for already to her
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  • Posted by preimert1 8 years, 7 months ago
    The only way to waste your vote is to not use it.
    Vote your conscience and devil take the hindmost.
    I believe that inspite of its gradual erosion our
    Constitutuion is still robust enough to carry us through four years of whoever becomes president .
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
    Right NOW. It's either trump or we get Hillary. That's the fact and a vote other than for trump will result in pure disaster. It's a matter of slowing down cronyism and socialism. Hillary will totally institutionalize both of those. Trump isn't going to be able to return us to a constitutional republic, BUT he will slow the decline
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  • Posted by bsmith51 8 years, 7 months ago
    If you were in the book, Atlas Shrugged, and you could vote against Directive 10-289, would you not do it? Would such action not be in your own self-interest? Now remember you're not in a book, and consider Hillary's recent statement to voters:

    “It’s not just my name on the ballot. Every issue you care about – think about it, because in effect it’s on the ballot, too. The next 40 days will determine the next 40 years.”

    We all know that she refers to the Supreme Court.

    If a vote for Trump does nothing but prevent Hillary from determining "the next 40 years," that's good enough for me, for now.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Re: “at the presidential level it always comes down to the lesser of two evils because we're electing a person who's kind-of-sort-of okay to >50% of the people.” Not this time. More than 50% despise both of them, and most of the remainder despise one but not the other. The winner is likely to get substantially less than 50% of the vote, and many voters will stay home in disgust. I think a major political crisis is possible once this election is over, as a huge number of voters will refuse to accept the outcome regardless of who wins.
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  • Posted by bassboat 8 years, 7 months ago
    Voting gives legitimacy to our form of government. The elected assumes that they have a mandate and rule like a king.
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  • Posted by ArtIficiarius 8 years, 7 months ago
    As of Friday, 23 Sept., the Convention of States Project has held a simulation of a Convention of States (would be: for the Purpose of Proposing Amendments to the US Constitution to the States).

    I would have gleefully impoverished myself to attend had I been asked. It is better to correct the problems than to place yourself in harms way.

    I have been warned (see the works of William L. Livingston) that should an engineer or hard scientist be elected to any office, that person would be stoned by the political animals (Do you hear me Allosaur?).

    Chad should have been aborted in the first trimester.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 7 months ago
    If everyone wrote in "John Smith," he might actually win. It would be interesting to see how election officials would figure out which John Smith should become President! :-)
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have been following policy on-and-off for 25 years, and at the presidential level it always comes down to the lesser of two evils because we're electing a person who's kind-of-sort-of okay to >50% of the people.

    To me this normal and expected. I wish there were some way to decrease what the gov't and the president could do. Now the kind-of-sort-of okay person has to promise to fund cancer research, help pay for decent nursing homes and medical care for the old, help pay for college, make arrangements for childcare, help people take time off when they have a baby, help people buy a house, fight a war on drugs, and do something about all the troubled regions of the world, negotiate complicated trade deals, and stand up for various minority groups. If the gov't weren't doing any of that, the presidency would be less important.

    I don't know how to get there, so I have to vote and donate accepting the gov't and presidency as they exist today. Making the best out of an imperfect situation is shooting par in this world.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 7 months ago
    Too bad Pat Paulson isn't still around. He'd probably get lots of votes.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 7 months ago
    While I appreciate your position. I will vote for Tweedledee to prevent Tweedledum from Office.
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    Posted by $ SarahMontalbano 8 years, 7 months ago
    If I was religious I'd thank god that my age means I can't vote in this election. In any case, your ingenious solution never occurred to me and I think that's what I'd do if I were eighteen this election cycle. None of the candidates are good. But I hate when people around me implore me to vote for Trump because he's better than Hillary, or Hillary because she's better than Trump. A lesser evil might just take us to hell slower, or in a different way, but I still can't condone it.
    I wonder if enough people write in their own names, we can create a movement? Or at least, perhaps, get a paragraph on page 10 of the New York Times?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago
    Reality is inexorable.
    If you do not pay attention to it - it will destroy you. Voting for yourself is cute. It's clever. But so long as you live in the USA, it is also self destructive.
    I do not believe for a minute that if Hillary gets to be president, it won't affect you. The taxation proposals alone are enough to keep her out, not to mention the assaults on freedom with the full force of the state behind her.
    JB, I have admired your posts fr years. But -- I guess I've already said it.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago
    Old Dino may run if he can create and receive backing from what I shall hereby dub as the Extinct Party.
    The Extinct Party supports things that are extinct such as the (not O-hole's pick and chose) rule of law, the legal rock hard solid foundation of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights; but as for the rest of the amendments, maybe we should start over again.
    Anyhoo, Ayn Rand's extinct philosophy will not be considered extinct by we the extinct for the extinct.
    Spineless alive and (not) well behavior exhibited by constantly caving RINOs will not be tolerated (even if political heroism is dead) by my Extinct Party.
    Such traitors shall be called Extinct In Name Only aka EINO, which is pronounced, EEEIIINNOOO!
    If you're wondering what the hell I just wrote, its the phonetic spelling of what old dino roars whenever I smell another allosaur's urine inside my territory.
    Oh, yeah, extinct property rights will be respected by the Extinct Party also.
    OH, well, time to go. Have a nice Extinction everyone; and at the start of this October, may our treated as extinct Founding Fathers arise from the dead to haunt the politically correct..
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 7 months ago
    J, if you get elected, I'll be happy to serve in your Cabinet as Secretary of the Department of Kleptocrats....... and I promise I'll keep your name out of any of the business I do... Honest!!!!
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Likewise.

    lol, I'd be killed. I've been scouring my hard drives and the web but have yet to find that article.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am glad to bring a little humor to you. I enjoyed starting this thread and considered putting it under Humor.
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