they didnt pay attention to ross perot. they wont pay attention to Johnson. They arent paying attention to him at all in the media- that tells you something right there. They are all pounding on Trump because he IS the threat to the liberal and crony establishment. THAT should tell you a lot right there.
Omitted is the complete unpredictability with Trump, plus all his negative policy ideas. He is a pragmatist who will do whatever he feels like in the end. I don't want to vote for someone who so badly represents the "capitalist" side and is so despicable a person. And I don't want to vote for a Libertarian - and a bad one at that. So I say no vote.
When presented with a "choice" between hemlock & strychnine, I will not lend legitimacy to my execution by cooperating in the process. If I am to be poisoned, the executioners will have to hold me down, pry my mouth open and pour it in themselves over my screaming objections.
But on the other hand, if poisoning is inevitable maybe I should at least choose the less noxious tasting one? So maybe I'll vote for Trump, as his antics may at least be a bit more amusing to watch as Rome burns.
I am constantly amazed by grown adults who actually contemplate voting for Trump. The man is such a fundamental waste of skin, it is bizarre that people still attempt to justify him as a legitimate candidate. If you don't want to vote for Clinton, fine. Vote for Johnson. He is still orders of magnitude better than a knuckle-dragging mouth breather like Trump. Work to destroy the Republican Party as it has become a cesspool of religious wackos and fear-mongers and help it rise as a new party, or work to get the Libertarians ahead.
I have never met a Trump supporter, or at least someone who admits they are a supporter, because admitting such a thing is to admit you are not a rational thinker and completely hate your country. Do Americans who support this buffoon actually visualize him as President? Just picture it for a second. Do you really want someone who has failed at pretty much everything he has attempted and is a compulsive liar as your President? The first insulting tweet he gets from some guy in Pakistan and he will send in the troops. He man is an embarrassment to the ideals of what America should be.
Sorry, I have met a Trump supporter. An ex-student of mine who on Facebook also goes on about how 9/11 is a hoax and how the Jews are controlling everything with their holocaust hoaxes. Kind of says it all.
Posted by $CBJ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
Trump does not need every vote. Any vote for Trump in California, for example, is "wasted" according to your standards. Your vote in the Bush vs. Gore election would not have changed the outcome, even in Florida. Gary Johnson needs votes, and the total number of votes he receives from all states does matter. If he gets 5 percent or more nationally, you can bet that the major-party politicians will notice, and they will attempt to appeal to those voters in the next election.
Posted by $CBJ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
Listen to the first one minute. Dramatically reducing the welfare rolls in Massachusetts was a remarkable achievement in itself. https://soundcloud.com/siriusxm-news-...
Maybe you dont care about the next 4 years, but I certainly do. It makes a big difference to me. So far Obama took away medical care and made it 3x more expensive (monthly premiums). Hillary will up the minimum wage to $15 and ruin many small businesses, including mine. Voting for Johnson does nothing to protect me from the ravages of Hillary.
The fighter pilot analogy fails because his options are determined by the laws of nature and his choice from among those options determines the outcome. In this or any other election, the outcome will be the same no matter who I vote for, and I don't get a prize for picking the winner. So why is a vote for Johnson any more of a waste than one for Hillarump?
He lost me during the first Town Hall with Anderson Cooper. Cooper was giving him every chance to stand out, and Johnson acted like a buffoon I thought. Giggling and laughing at the wrong times, and his VP was a nothing. From Massachusetts, the hotbed of liberalism ???
Voting for Trump this time WILL make a difference, and hopefully save us from the ravages and crookedness of Hillary. She will benefit her contributors of course, and WE will pay for it.
Your conclusion that the election outcome will be the same either way is not right. It depends on how many people take the choice you are making. Look how close it was with bush vs gore. Its going to be very close this time too, and Trump needs every vote. Johnson doesnt need any votes
Johnson is just too intellectually inconsistent for me. Pot is OK, but other drugs should be kept illegal??? Hillary is good? He wont get the intellectually consistent vote, and the massses wont get their goodies if he were elected. He is going nowhere, which is why the establishment is ignoring him.
Exactly. I am voting for Trump not because he is an objectivist, but because he is the least bad "statist". Hillary is the posterchild for corruption and cronyism, and is worse at that than anyone I have seen. Its amazing that people actually vote for her, except for her crony partners of course. The vast masses dont have the money to "pay" her, and therefore wont be able to take advantage of her paying out government favors. They are stupid to think they can play without paying, and they dont have the resources to pay.
Voting libertarian in THIS election is like not voting at all. The only anti-establishment candidate this time around who has a snowball's chance in hell to actually make some sort of different is TRUMP.
TRUMP essentially hijacked one of the two major parties for his anti-establishment message. Who else has come close to THAT??? If there ever was a message to send to the establishment, this is IT.
Yes, yes, yes and yes. And goofy Gary is a LINO. Mr. Imperfect Bad Hair Day is all the old dino sees left to vote for and he may be this country's last chance. The USA needs a fireman to the rescue and we need one now. Me dino ain't someone who will ever rejoice over making some hollow self-righteously Objectiivist point by sitting back and letting the Republic of the United States burn the rest of the way down. Do not delude yourselves into thinking some beautiful Objectivist phoenix shall then magically arise from the ashes with everyone reading Ayn Rand. We'll be lucky if our half-starved children aren't all goosestepping and prayerfully chanting praises to some Chairman Chucklehead like that stupid punk who runs North Korea. . And such an outcome may arise from the ashes quicker than that.
Posted by $CBJ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
In every recent election we supposedly have been presented with a binary choice of which candidate will do the "least harm". But least harm = harm. As long as the two-party system controls the country this will continue to be the case, until liberty in America ceases to exist altogether. A Libertarian vote is a vote to dismantle the two-party system and allow the voters a wider range of choices.
While Trump makes me uneasy Hilary terrifies me. Hillary is fundamentally dishonest and hypocritical and Trump is easily distracted by trivia. Is Trump an ideal candidate? Far from it. But when one considers the alternative "The Donald" is clearly the only game in town. Sadly, we are faced not with who will do the most good but who will do the least harm. I think the answer to that is obvious.
Posted by $CBJ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
Gary Johnson didn’t “hijack” anything, he won the nomination both times by majority vote of the delegates in a fair process. Most of his positions are libertarian. I don’t think anyone in the LP would qualify as a “pure” libertarian in the eyes of all the other members.
I’m voting for Gary because he is the candidate closest to my views on most of the important issues.
I live in MA. My vote is irrelevant. Therefore, I will vote for Gary Johnson, because anyone is better than Hillary (even Putin), and even though Gary Johnson has his warts, Gary Johnson is better than Trump. Period.
The assertion that a vote for a third party will be heard by no one, is completely false. It is already heard by two parties mortally afraid that real ideas can make there way into discussion, and their strategy to slip inappropriate positions (e.g. restrictions of social freedom) in under the cover of other more important platforms. US reaction to this crap is why Trump won the republican ticket, and Rubio et al are not wiping the floor with Hillary. We should be duped by the same strategy that go us this idiot (who I hope winds, BTW) yet again?
Fool me one, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Previous comments... You are currently on page 4.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vide...
https://thinkprogress.org/al-gore-don...
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/mike...
When presented with a "choice" between hemlock & strychnine, I will not lend legitimacy to my execution by cooperating in the process. If I am to be poisoned, the executioners will have to hold me down, pry my mouth open and pour it in themselves over my screaming objections.
But on the other hand, if poisoning is inevitable maybe I should at least choose the less noxious tasting one? So maybe I'll vote for Trump, as his antics may at least be a bit more amusing to watch as Rome burns.
I have never met a Trump supporter, or at least someone who admits they are a supporter, because admitting such a thing is to admit you are not a rational thinker and completely hate your country. Do Americans who support this buffoon actually visualize him as President? Just picture it for a second. Do you really want someone who has failed at pretty much everything he has attempted and is a compulsive liar as your President? The first insulting tweet he gets from some guy in Pakistan and he will send in the troops. He man is an embarrassment to the ideals of what America should be.
Sorry, I have met a Trump supporter. An ex-student of mine who on Facebook also goes on about how 9/11 is a hoax and how the Jews are controlling everything with their holocaust hoaxes. Kind of says it all.
https://soundcloud.com/siriusxm-news-...
Voting for Trump this time WILL make a difference, and hopefully save us from the ravages and crookedness of Hillary. She will benefit her contributors of course, and WE will pay for it.
TRUMP essentially hijacked one of the two major parties for his anti-establishment message. Who else has come close to THAT??? If there ever was a message to send to the establishment, this is IT.
And goofy Gary is a LINO.
Mr. Imperfect Bad Hair Day is all the old dino sees left to vote for and he may be this country's last chance.
The USA needs a fireman to the rescue and we need one now.
Me dino ain't someone who will ever rejoice over making some hollow self-righteously Objectiivist point by sitting back and letting the Republic of the United States burn the rest of the way down.
Do not delude yourselves into thinking some beautiful Objectivist phoenix shall then magically arise from the ashes with everyone reading Ayn Rand.
We'll be lucky if our half-starved children aren't all goosestepping and prayerfully chanting praises to some Chairman Chucklehead like that stupid punk who runs North Korea. .
And such an outcome may arise from the ashes quicker than that.
I’m voting for Gary because he is the candidate closest to my views on most of the important issues.
The assertion that a vote for a third party will be heard by no one, is completely false. It is already heard by two parties mortally afraid that real ideas can make there way into discussion, and their strategy to slip inappropriate positions (e.g. restrictions of social freedom) in under the cover of other more important platforms. US reaction to this crap is why Trump won the republican ticket, and Rubio et al are not wiping the floor with Hillary. We should be duped by the same strategy that go us this idiot (who I hope winds, BTW) yet again?
Fool me one, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Load more comments...