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When Ayn Rand spent approximately twenty years writing two books—one, The Fountainhead and two, Atlas Shrugged, she took Nietzsche’s concept of the Übermensch and completed the work that the German philosopher was unable to due to madness. In The Fountainhead was the first real attempt to provide an Übermensch to ever occur as a fully functioning character. The novel published in 1943 was part of a growing trend for human beings to grapple with the Übermensch concept.

Ayn Rand further flushed out the Übermensch concept and put them on the pages of her novel, The Fountainhead—which to me is one of the greatest novels of all time. Rand would then further perfect the concept into Atlas Shrugged which 60 years later is still selling like French Fries at McDonald’s. It was in these two books that the Übermensch found the right philosophic balance and emerged as a new way of thinking. It was this concept which found itself into the Sergio Leone films thus inspiring modern Hollywood in ways that would be inconceivable otherwise. If not for Ayn Rand, her early work as a screenwriter for Cecil B. Deville, her casual associations with Walt Disney, and John Wayne and her deep work in philosophy with the fresh eyes of an immigrant who had seen the worst that communism had to offer—the movie For A Few Dollars More would have never happened, and likely Clint Eastwood would have remained an obscure actor doing bit parts on television shows.

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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 5 months ago
    This is what makes the lefties nuts. The very idea of a superior man. Anyone with a proper sense of life is enamored by him. Anyone who thinks "all men are created equal" means that no one is superior to anyone else and everyone must be treated exactly the same is your socialist/communist/progressive. The concept of an outstanding individual who cannot be swayed from his moral stance and sticks to his guns no matter what it costs is one of the chief reasons that those mealy mouth moochers hate Ayn Rand, her work and everything she stands for.
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    • Posted by IndianaGary 6 years, 5 months ago
      IIRC, Ayn Rand, when discussing her heroes, described them as "normal men". Her concept of a moral society left no room for the James Taggart's and Orren Boyle's of the world.
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  • Posted by SolitudeIsBliss 6 years, 5 months ago
    The literal translation of Übermensch is Upper or superior men. From the list of films in the related article the main protagonist are just manly men, unlike the wussified metrosexual men Hollywood keeps trying to ram down people's throats. They think that the LGBT and softer men characters will attract more movie goers when it's just the opposite. People go to the movies to see the heroes, the super characters that will take us on an adventure, not some brokeback cowboys (ugh)..hence the success of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bruce Willis, Sly Stallone, etc....
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  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 5 months ago
    Excellent topic. Thanks for putting it up.

    What timing! Amazing that last week I was reminiscing about going to a drive-in movie in 1968 (may have been '69) playing dawn till dusk Clint Eastwood. I wished to repeat the process, but no drive-ins, so I then watched the DVDs of "A Few Dollars More", "A Fistful of Dollars", and "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly"! Maybe tonight I'll watch "The Outlaw Josie Wales" or "Pale Rider".

    Way To Go, Overman!!!!!
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 5 months ago
    That is all well, fine, and good, but as much as we love and need the hero/ine, I must quibble on a point. The Clint Eastwood "man with no name" was taken from the films of Akira Kurosawa, starring Toshiro Mufune, notably Yokinbo and Sanjuro. Sanjuro is the "camillia" so when they ask his name and he says "Sanjuro" he means "pansy." Make of it as you will...

    "There had never been another character like the one that Eastwood played in those westerns in all of human history—including stage plays from the Renaissance. Eastwood’s character was a brand new concept that few understood at the time—but loved. " It was a clear copy of a Japanese original, and not the last time. Disney's "Lion King" was cribbed from anime.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 5 months ago
      For instance, here is a scene from Yojimbo.

      He lets a stick tell him where to go. How stupid is that. Eastwood said he thought the Leone westerns were like Yojimbo. I'm sure this was said to appease the press antagonistic to Ayn Rand at the time. But Kurosawa was coming from a different point of view, and philosophy. Nature is the guide, not mans decisions.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 6 years, 5 months ago
    Overmanwarrior's link is definitely worth the read. He has links therein to quite a few of the greatest movies of all time. +1 for any reference to For a Few Dollars More. I'm joyfully whistling the theme song.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 6 years, 5 months ago
    overman, I keep thinking back to my heroes when
    I was a kid -- Roy Rogers, Dale Evans, the Lone
    Ranger, Thor Heyerdahl, Lazarus Long, Jack London,
    and others -- back in the 50s and 60s before I met
    Rand ... I have always loved heroes, and the
    world of movies has too ... Sergeant York, for
    example. Rand finished the portrayal;; yes? -- j

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    • Posted by 6 years, 5 months ago
      I think America was inventing a new kind of hero based on a new kind of American philosophy--and Rand was defining it. Filmmakers sat quietly in their bedrooms with the lights out reading The Fountainhead, and trying to come to terms with it, and what came out in the cinema was the old Republic serials, the westerns, and a gradual evolution toward.............John Galt. By 1957 there was a full fledged communist push from the Cold War, and there was Atlas Shrugged standing opposed. And movies at the time reflected this conflict.

      A Fist Full of Dollars is a little bit mixed in its approach, but by For A Few Dollars More it was much more individually based, rape revenge, the power of the individual over a group of thugs, and capitalism. Very interesting stuff.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 5 months ago
    I first saw #1 "A Fistful of Dollars" and #2 "For A Few Dollars More" at a drive-in theater when I discovered Eastwood's "Man With No Name" character in a theater with a roof AFTER I saw #3 "The Good, The Bad And the Ugly" for the first of many times. Reminds me, I discovered James Bond when I saw #3 "Goldfinger" and had to catch up with the priors at the same exact drive-in. Being an old dino who as a kid never dreamed of this PC I'm using or of movies on DVDs, I've recently got a big kick out of "Red" and "Red2" in which a squad of senior citizens (an aged Bruce Willis in it) kicks butt. Love it when a certain sexy gray-haired woman wrecks cold-blooded havoc with such things as an electric Gatling gun. In both flicks there's some guy who just adores her.
    I've seen the Sanjuro character in the first movie, Yojimbo," and in 3 or 4 others, I think. He even fights Ichi, The Blind Swordsman (Now that's one HUGE franchise). Reading the subtitles of countless samurai movies prepared me well for my hard of hearing senior years. Now when I rent any DVD, I check for English subtitles.
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  • Posted by iroseland 6 years, 5 months ago
    Sanjuro was an awesome character. At the start of the movie when he lets the stick guide his way it is also showing the lack of purpose in the life of a Ronin. It was the town where he found purpose.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 6 years, 5 months ago
    Somebody owes me a new keyboard. Whoever started referencing old Japanese movies and made me puke all over it.

    Hey, let's start making movies like the Arab Moslems make! Let's celebrate Iranian Islamic culture! Let's take the worst from our enemy's philosophy, adopt it, celebrate it, make it our own... and wonder why the hell our own country is going to hell in a handbasket.

    Eastwood's best film quite probably was "The Outlaw Josie Wales", even over "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly". It was NOT the same character as in his "Man with no name" films. They were amoral scumbags; just likeable amoral scumbags. Wales was a man who was wronged and responded correctly, for a homo sapiens male. Wales wasn't an amoral (or immoral) drifter. He wasn't a professional gunslinger. He was the closest Eastwood could come to Ethan Edwards, or Shane. Some of us are just tainted, however, and can't achieve that moral purity (for want of a better term).

    And if Uma Thurman was an "ubermensch" in Kill Bill... then all ubermenshen need to be hunted down and exterminated. With extreme prejudice.

    Nobody else noticed how immoral these Jap-based films are? At least by American (real American, not 21st century PC American) standards? Thurman's character was a professional killer; what happened to her was karmic justice. The only bad part was that when Bill shot her, he didn't kill the baby as well, thus saving countless lives when the brat comes to adulthood as a sociopathic killer like her mother.

    No, I'll buy Ethan Edwards as an ubermensch. I'll buy Audie Murphy as an ubermensch. But not "the Man with No Name".

    I think John Wayne may have delivered the Objectivist creed (or what could be an Objectivist creed) in "The Shootist", btw:

    John Bernard Books: "I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. "
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