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'Use-Of-Force' Restrictions Placed On Border Patrol Agents

Posted by khalling 11 years, 5 months ago to News
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Are these new policies to be adopted by local law enforcement officers against the U.S.'s own citizens? WTF is going on?!
Let's just send a big fat message to cartel and terrorists-speed through check points into the country! No one will stop you...
SOURCE URL: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/16/New-Use-of-Force-Restrictions-Placed-on-Border-Patrol-Agents


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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago
    No.
    I have no fucking idea! (other than his death wish for the U.S.)
    and, exactly.
    (Bring America to it's knees and then everything will be fair and just in the world...and equal. And once the caliphate is in place, and they get done with 'little America" (Israel)... we're next.)
    Is there ANY other LOGICAL explanation for ANY of his actions?? This is no longer America...this is "little Mexico".
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 11 years, 5 months ago
    Border patrol and the Americans in border states are considered fodder. We have ZERO representation.

    The only protection we have against the invasion can be bought at any sporting good store. My advice, buy another box of ammo every time an illegal alien headline makes your heart sink.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 5 months ago
    I am sometimes surprised at what people protest about. I appreciate that ones who lost loved ones are upset. According to the activists 19 people were killed by border agents. How many people have the Mexican drug cartels killed in the same amount of time? How many have illegally entered the US in that time and what percentage have a criminal record?
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  • Posted by Technocracy 11 years, 5 months ago
    Our country puts silly ROEs on the military.

    This idiocy does not surprise me at all.

    Could provoke a strike too.

    Either way the agents of destruction win.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 5 months ago
    So what's wrong with throwing rocks back at someone who's throwing rocks at you. I don't think you need to shoot them.

    But what impact does this have on American citizens within their 100 mi 'No Constitution' border check area?
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    • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago
      What's wrong with throwing rocks back at someone is that it perpetuates rock throwing.

      Throwing lead bullets at high velocity (with proper training) not only stops the rock throwing of the moment, but indicates to fellow rock-throwers that maybe throwing rocks at border patrol agents might be... unhealthy.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 11 years, 5 months ago
      Uh, isn't it just trading one aimed projectile for another? Only real difference is velocity. Both can still maim, wound and kill...

      I think it is the principle of rebellion against lawful authority that makes me feel very little sympathy. You think the people throwing rocks don't have the intention to cause injury - and even death? Do you deny someone the right to self-protection when so threatened?

      I have a good friend who is a Border Patrol Agent. I would hate to see anything happen to him or his family as a result of this crap.
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      • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago
        Excuse me, but aren't these illegal aliens throwing rocks at Border Patrol Agents?

        That's not "rebellion against lawful authority".

        That's an act of war.

        At one time, the rock-throwing sling was a weapon of war, btw.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
      as an american citizen you will subjected to all sorts of rigorous scrutiny. was just in the 100 mi no man's land yesterday. Only those breaking the law instead of complying will be allowed to
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  • Posted by desimarie23 11 years, 5 months ago
    Instead of Boarder Patrol Agents we can call them The Welcoming Committee, and perhaps offer free housing with your hors devours, Robbie.
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    • Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 5 months ago
      Might as well throw in free health care and child care.
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      • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago
        Free education (indoctrination) and housing too.
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        • Posted by robertmbeard 11 years, 5 months ago
          I say load the unaccompanied children from Central America on buses and send them to Nancy Pelosi's house in San Francisco. Perhaps she would sing a different tune then...
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          • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
            she'll just hire them to work in her vineyard
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            • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 5 months ago
              No, she'll "grant them the privilege" to be able to "learn a valuable trade" and "being productive contributors to the socialist labor movement".

              "Hiring" implies pay, which implies training these "new UN-citizens" that one should work for personal gain, rather than the common social good. They should be HONORED to join her view of labor for all for the "good of the (e)state.."...

              Just hit me... THAT'S why the huge push to make these illegals semi-citizens - by removing their "illegal alien" status, they can be put to work for the elite dems, who won't be able to be censured (or fined) by hiring "illegal aliens".
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              • Posted by Jaysun 11 years, 5 months ago
                right an no 'elite Republicans' NEVER EVER had illegals working for them-WOW am I reading Faux News ?
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                • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 5 months ago
                  To answer your silly question, no. Funny how you focused in on that, BTW. I can pretty much guarantee I don't blindly parrot (read that as "mooch off of") the ratings-driven scripted position of any of the network-produced infotainment feeds... on any side.

                  To be clear... I have no problem with foreigners being here in the US and working... as long as they did so legally, without special programs and politically-based incentives. It's the political wink-and-nod that IMO is pretty damned treasonous.

                  Point - I watched a good friend (been here since the 60's, carried a green card all that time, and was a damned productive member of society) get her citizenship a couple years back. She could have gotten US citizenship years ago, after marrying a US citizen. She refused to do so - because she didn't feel she had *earned* her place to have the privilege of being a US citizen.
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                  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 5 months ago
                    Please pass on my high praise for her strong moral fiber! If these emigrants today had a bit of her character, we wouldn't have a lot of the problems we do.
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                    • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 5 months ago
                      I shall - its an honor!

                      Funny enough, the immigrants I know, for the most part, are like that - came over, nothing going for them, just hope and a dream, didn't ask, beg, or mooch any of the special programs, didn't sponge off anyone, got a job (whatever they could land, and some, as they say, "weren't purdy"), learned English, and contribute to society.
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            • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 5 months ago
              No. She'd demand that the gov't pay to build them housing, feed and clothe them, and take care of their medical and educational needs. Then she'd insist that it were only "fair" that these humans be deemed citizens and be given the rights of citizens. All the while skimming just a little off the top because she was so beneficent as to "provide" for them.
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  • Posted by CTYankee 11 years, 5 months ago
    The border issue is as stupid as the war on drugs! It should be easy to enter legally; very easy. And it should be treacherous, dangerous and difficult to enter illegally. Once the legal hurdles to entry are cleared then the obstacles to illegal entry can be raised to the level of suicidal. -- Although the whole argument should be rendered moot by ELIMINATING the *WELFARE STATE* then the people who come would be responsible for themselves.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
      yes Yankee! I will tell you, sitting for hours in line at the border to enter your own country is a vast waste of production and not efficient. there needs to be a better way
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    • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 5 months ago
      Do you have any idea what would happen to this country if everybody who just decided to move here could just jump on a bus or plane and walk in? Lets ignore the security issues and just talk about one thing, economics.

      The first thing that would collapse would be any job security at all. If any mechanic from another country could walk into a shop and tell your boss that he'll do your job for a dollar over min. wage, how long do you think it would take for all out high dollar mechanics to be on unemployment? What about construction workers? Or truck drivers? Any job that requires mechanical skills or hand eye coordination would soon be occupied by immigrants and unemployment numbers would skyrocket.

      This is the biggest reason we have the immigration system we do. It developed in the 1920's as homeless immigrants fled war ravaged Europe and the communist takeover in Russia. As those immigrants escaped to sail to America they began to shove American works out of the job market and congress acted to head off the growing problem. If they hadn't the depression would have hit our shores at the same time it was destroying Germany and Europe.

      Wise saying time - Those who don't know history and bound to repeat it. Lets not go there.

      BTW, Doing away with the 50 years of Johnson's "Great Society" would be the best move we could make. But don't expect to see it happen - that's also explained by history.
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      • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 5 months ago
        Any nation needs a growing populace to continue to grow economically. 2/3 of the American economy is consumer spending. There are predictable patterns on when that spending occurs. When either the overall numbers of consumers grow or shrink that causes economic disturbance. As it does when the proportions of the population changes irrationally. The main reason that the 90's were so prosperous was that the baby boomers were at their peak spending. It had little to do with politics or manipulated economics.

        So, what will this influx of youth do to our economy? They are non-productive, and are thus consumers of wealth not contributors to it. This must come from somewhere. It is unlikely that the populace, even the bleeding hearts, will accept more taxation, thus it will be borrowed. This enslaves those young more strongly than their political bonds in their native lands ever could.

        The "echo boomers" will be coming into their own peak spending sometime in the early '20's. Between now and then will be increasing deficits and likely a crash. And those echo boomers aren't sufficient in numbers to overcome the debt that their parents have heaved upon them.

        It will be 30 years before these new immigrants have any beneficial impact on our economy. We don't have that many years left before collapse.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago
    This is a hard issue for me to take a side on. As an American, I want our borders, language, and culture to be upheld. As someone who has shrugged (albeit partly), I am looking forward to the end of the looter/moocher era, and this is definitely accelerating the decline.
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    • Posted by Jaysun 11 years, 5 months ago
      out 'culture' is a culture of immigrants.. the reason our nation is so great is BECAUSE we are a nation of immigrants that add the whole of the nation.. while I don't agree with an illegals getting a free ride I think some of us-*cough Republicans*cough* forget that they too came from immigrants and the Only TRUE 'American's are in fact American Indians
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago
        To further define what I mean by American exceptionalism, I mean that America was exceptional in its founding principles. As long as America kept to those principles, it was America. Since it has abandoned those principles (for the last 100 years or so), it is now Amepoble (poor America as opposed to rich America). As Francisco d'Anconia once said, "Money is the barometer of a society's virtue." Now ours is worth a lot less.
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      • Posted by Bobhummel 11 years, 5 months ago
        Jayson,
        The reason America is great is because it is founded on personal freedom and responsibility and on the constitutional limits on government power to intrude on those freedoms, not because people immigrated here. They came here LEGALLY, BECAUSE of those freedom were codified into the founding documents of this nation. The ones coming over illegally are just moochers.
        Cheers.
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago
        Legal immigrants add to the nation. I hire many people from countries other than America, and am glad to do so. I would gladly sponsor citizenship for many of those whom I have hired on student visas. It is the brazen disregard for American sovereignty that I cannot tolerate. If you had people showing up at your front doorstep expecting to be taken care of, you might think differently. By the way, I am not a Republican any longer, and even the American Indians were not always here.

        It is predominantly the free ride I am opposed to. Their free ride comes at my expense. I do not want to support moochers.

        The secondary issue is the dilution of the culture of what was America. These illegal immigrants are being encouraged to migrate here so that they can further the political agenda of Democrat looters by turning Texas and Arizona into blue states. This is the major part of the fundamental transformation of America that Obama promised during his 2008 campaign. These immigrants have no intention of assimilating into the culture of American exceptionalism, and their looter supporters have no intention of them assimilating either.
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        • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago
          "Legal immigrants" is a redundancy... or the opposite of an oxymoron.

          By definition, an immigrant must be legal.

          You pretty much expressed my view on the subject, without all my emotion-induced vitriol.
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          • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
            thank you. I take exception with american exceptionalism. There is no such thing. There is such a thing as a great environment which rewards individuals who pursue rational goals in a system of capitalism and property rights are vigorously protected. and, a Constitution based on natural rights. As the Constitution has eroded (as well the best patent system in History), you witness "american exceptionalism" erodes as well
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            • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago
              America was the only country in the history of the world that had an environment that rewarded individuals who pursue rational goals in a system of capitalism and in which property rights were vigorously protected and had a Constitution based on natural rights. This has been the basis of what has been termed American exceptionalism for over a century. What you are disagreeing with appears to be an historically accepted terminology. If what you mean is that America is no longer exceptional because it no longer is such an environment, there should be no disagreement on that. America was such an environment as recently as 1988 for sure and perhaps as late as 2000 or even 2006 or 2008. It is not such an environment any longer. Obama has succeeded in his fundamental transformation. What was built over hundreds of years has been destroyed in less than a decade.
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          • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago
            "Legal immigrants" should be a redundancy. Unfortunately for America now, there are more people who come illegally than legally. I would be very willing to let many more people come legally ... if they followed the specified legalization procedures. This is a problem both on our INS' end and on the end of those who are coming illegally.
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      • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 5 months ago
        Jaysun, the issue are immigrants who come here through the legally established process, verses those who slither in through a crack under the door. My great, great grandparents on both sides were immigrants who came legally, worked hard to build lives in this country, never asking for welfare, free medical or anything else to be handed to them. They came looking for ONLY one thing - a chance to have free life.

        Most of these today want everything I've spent a lifetime building and they want it handed to them while they reject the American lifestyle, language, work ethic and about anything that has made our country into the land of OPPERTUNITY that it is. We have the right to pursue happiness in this country, but they want it guaranteed to them. They want us to conform our lifestyle to the country they left. They want it handed to them, and they want it now.

        If the place they left was so great, why'd they leave to come here?

        As far as your little "cough" over Republicans efforts to make sure that the American dream is something that lives on and is not destroyed by illegal immigrants, you need to understand that they do not want to change one thing in how LEGAL immigrants are handled - only illegal immigrants. Anybody who wants to come to America can line up with all the rest and do legally, but if they climb over a fence, dig under the fence, go around the fence or swim the RioGrande, they need to know that the only thing that they will get is a bus ride back over the border. THIS is what the difference is between the two views, Republicans want our laws enforced and democrats want the laws erased to get more people to vote for them.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 11 years, 5 months ago
    sounds like they are dealing with a bait-and-switch,
    with their jobs turning into suicide missions. not my
    idea of "fairness"!!! -- j

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  • Posted by Esceptico 11 years, 5 months ago
    Unless one has experienced an actual encounter with the new police (or as Balko puts it in “Rise of the Warrior Cop”), one would not believe the event. America is not the country you believe you live in.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 11 years, 5 months ago
    The message has already been sent.
    We are no longer a nation, but an amorphous sponge. We absorb everything including virulent vermin, who will eventually destroy the very thing they flee to.
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