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Weigh in on the New Atlas Shrugged Movie

Posted by GaltsGulch 7 years, 8 months ago to The Gulch: General
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Ayn Rand's masterpiece Atlas Shrugged is just under 1200 pages. And, no matter how hard we try, there is simply no way to squeeze it all into a single movie verbatim.

Now that preliminary work has begun on the new Atlas Shrugged movie, there are some tough decisions to be made before things can really get underway. One of which is, what storylines from the book would be considered not critical to Ayn Rand's message as a whole?

So, you tell us, what scenes can be left out and still result in a movie that does Rand's message justice?


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  • Posted by Learnedman 7 years, 8 months ago
    Must have same actors!!! Like Ayn's quotes in 3rd part last movie.
    More on reasons by people who joined movement. Good luck! I like the mini-series idea!
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  • Posted by Esceptico 7 years, 8 months ago
    Get rid of the “love” scenes are not critical to the story and they are more like rapes than love. By not including them one item of controversy is removed and more time is available for the more important central theme.
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  • Posted by iotovip 7 years, 8 months ago
    Your right too much content for one movie. how about doing a series instead, like they do on HBO, the one book has enough material for several seasons.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 7 years, 8 months ago
    I cannot think of one storyline that is "not critical to Ayn Rand's message".
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  • Posted by Lucky 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, a worthwhile risk.
    Try to get each episode to stand alone dramatically with minor reference to the place in the big story.
    Each should be worth watching, and give the message by being true to the theme.
    Maybe there is no need to get to the end, there are many sub stories- 20th C motors, the tunnel crash, the big rail contract, the emptiness of academia, sabotage at Reardon Metal, the contribution to Friends of Social Progress, the train drivers v. their union, ..
    'In a country not far away..'
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Would you like to see it set in current times (referencing more real world stories) or as a period piece?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is big enough for a TV show. I foresee twenty-two-and-a-half hours of programming, in either 30 45-minute installments or 15 hour-and-a-half installments. (Lifetime would love that; they'd schedule four and a half minutes of advertising right before the last scene of the "Moratorium on Brains" chapter, when the Taggart Comet rolls into The Tunnel with a smoker to pull her. People would hang on the edges of their seats, watch the train vanish into the tunnel, and then...TUNE IN TOMORROW.)

    In any event, as I say in another comment, we're talking about putting this on a streaming service. First prize is to get it on Amazon Prime. Second prize is to get it on Hulu. Third prize, maybe the Lifetime Movie Club, or Showtime, or some such service.
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So you didn't think Eddie Willers should be taken to Galt's Gulch (as in ASP3)?
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for your kind wishes.

    What scenes do you think should have been shortened?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. To begin with, I urge you to forget about the traditional broadcast or CATV ("cable") network model. Free live TV is dead; long live streaming. I foresee the AS mini-series streaming out on Amazon Prime Video--or, as one other commenter has already suggested, Netflix.

    Besides, you would not shop this to CBS or NBC or ABC. Those guys are the Bertram Scudders of electronic media. You would shop it to HBO, Starz, Showtime, or maybe the A&E family of channels: either A&E or Lifetime. Or perhaps Hulu. Or, as I said, Amazon Video. And people would look forward to streaming it on their Roku or Amazon Fire TV devices, or onto their iPads or Android tablets.
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for your support on all of the movies! Hopefully we'll get to put those stickers to use again soon.

    Question: If you could choose ANY director for the new Atlas Shrugged movie, who would it be?
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that, as you point out, the risk of cancellation is real. At the end of each season you have to deal with the fact that your story could end there or carry on. Recently "Person of Interest" self canceled themselves. CBS was dithering about renewing them (or even when to show the last season) so they made the decision it was the last season and tied the show up nicely with just a small hook in case CBS ordered more.

    That would argue for mini-series so that you know up-front what pacing to follow. Of course, the nature of television is that if they come back and say "give me more", few producers would say, "No, I told the whole story."
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We're asking for feedback from members of the Gulch on what can be left out of the new movie and still result in something does Rand's message justice.

    We are not asking for feedback on the Trilogy.
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm a huge fan of the look and feel of The Man in the High Castle. That's a great example of a recent period piece.
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Doing something that spans 30 episodes has some risks. For example, at 30 episodes you're probably talking about 2-3 seasons. The network could cancel it. A leading actor could drop out. With that in mind would you still prefer something that spans such a length of time?
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Would you be in favor of a true mini-series or an actual television show that runs for multiple seasons?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Definitely. People have to believe Francisco as a force of nature, someone quite capable of blowing up his ore docks on the very stroke of a parliamentarian's gavel, and then texting to all the people of New York: "Brother, you asked for it!" Signed with all his names in full. That was one of my favorite scenes.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I disagree. You don't have to worry about the caricature-like villains. The American people foolishly elected Mister Thompson as President of the United States--twice. And he appointed Wesley Mouch as "Regulatory Czar." And Senator-wannabe Kip Chalmers, D-California, has several names: Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-California; Senator Harry W. Reid, D-Nevada; Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, D-Rhode Island; Representative Elijah Cummings, D-Maryland; et al., et al., et al. ad nauseam. In other words, just draw from portraits of current politicians. And develop a quick backstory on how Washington got to this pass: a runaway Constitutional convention in which the looters dominated.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, if you do have to wait the forty years, you will have achieved another milestone. The property will likely come into the public domain in forty-five years, anyway. Those are the terms of the Copyright Act: lifetime of the author plus seventy-five years.

    As to translating long monologues: you'll probably have to have several cuts throughout the speeches involved, especially the Great Speech. (You might even ask an actor to record it all for a special installment, licensed for separate streaming.) But--well, take Eddie Willers' dialogues with John Galt. Some of those you could translate into action--like Ragnar's raid on Orren Boyle's mill on the coast of Maine.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 7 years, 8 months ago
    To do justice to the book a mini-series would probably be the best. The three motion pictures were a noble attempt to bring "Atlas Shrugged" out from the pages of the book. The major problem was the changing of actors which made it hard to emphsize with them by the sudden shift. By the third I noticed that the production values had declined from the earlier entries. Any new version should stick to the time line narration, some events were juxtaposed or ignored which changed the perspective, whole conversations disappeared. What needs to be tackled are the lengthy speeches and bring them to a concise form, even reading them I have to stop and digest and even reread the same passage. Don't mess with the ending, the end screwed up the 'Harry Potter' series, it didn't do much for "Atlas Shrugged'. Remember Eddie Willers on that lonely stretch of track?
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