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Libertarian Gary Johnson gains ground by screwing up

Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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An interesting take on Gary Johnson (Libertarian), even down to quoting a New Yorker piece for his "love of Ayn Rand", as if it was some kind of bad thing. Maybe bad in the eyes of the current regime, but may actually spark some people to go see what the fuss is about...I actually found his reasoning about why "looking bone headed" but admitting it "is a good thing" interesting.


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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Stop repeating misleading statistics, Michael. It hurts your credibility (and the rest of the non sequitur comments have the same effect.)
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
    1 Islam

    1.1 Sunnis
    1.2 Shi'a
    1.2.1 Twelvers/Imamis
    1.2.2 Ismailis (Seveners)
    1.2.3 Alawis
    1.3 Druzes

    2 Christianity
    3 Judaism

    3.1 Syrian Jews
    3.2 Israeli Jews

    4 Yazidis
    5 Hinduism

    Even this list was incorrect as it doesn't list Ba'hai.

    But the one that slipped my mind was Yazidi.

    With 55,000 proposed and a great many from the Aleppo area Johnson should have had some knowledge and with places like Pyongyang or his opponents names and perhaps hometowns and birth places. Quick without thinking where was Johnson born and what is Clintons name?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And he does hold the key to 9% or is that really factually but 42 plus nine is 51. Why Johnny Boy is that your pay and play price for a key position and ...John Boy what makes you think Hillary will honor the deal?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And he does hold the key to 9% or is that really factually but 42 plus nine is 51. Why Johnny Boy is that your pay and play price for a key position and ...John Boy what makes you think Hillary will honor the deal?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Johnson and Klein by proper political definition are called Message Candidates. Each has a message to put before the population. Neither are viable beyond that purpose. We have what four states now or is it five approving marijuana and one for recreational purposes. That's message number one. Klein? Hug A Tree. That went out when the pot growing areas no longer needed a cover story. Message candidates work until they get boring and the difference betwen the other two in four way or two way as of today is two percent.

    Libertarians had chances to enlarge their party and gain recognition. They chose to go with Johnson instead.

    Greens did better in that respect and still may try for four years of recognition.

    The rest is a sixty day race with damaged goods politician versus outsider tactics from the business world.

    but yiour statements were not wrong and were right on the money as well I just used a little different perspective and a few facts of the day to support it. In my quest to set out the real race

    Socialist Autocracy featuring Comrade Clinton

    versus

    Facts not Fairy Tails.

    Stuck on nine percent is hardly a laudable showing.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and get a repeat of New Mexico's doubled debt. How going to vote Libertarian with a DINO - not - on th e parties empty platform. Nine Percent. Same as before. You picked rotten fruit when you picked cherries.
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    Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    how is he gaining ground. from a couple of polls with 12 and 13 he has dropped back to 9.1 and today 9.0 . You have a lot of spinning to do to justify that statement. Notice...The two way and four way percentage averages are posted here on a daily basis. Not my fault you didn't read them.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good thing they didn't ask him which parts of the Syrian population were in the most danger. Christian Arabs? Jewish, Bahai, There has been no Syrian census including a question about religion since 1960, these are thus the last official statistics available. In the next census of 1970, the religion statistics were no longer mentioned.:[5] 92.1% Muslims(4,053,349) including 75% Sunnis, 11% Alawis, 3% Druzes; 7.8% Christians (344,621) and 0.1% Jews (4,860). I'm missing one that's no longer even mentioned but was on the State Departments List of those most threatened and made eligible to immigrate. Instead we got unvetted Jihadis

    It's a good thing he wasn't asked before Alawiz became a tirade about color and Sunni or later

    How many of those minor threatened sects were brought to safety under Obama and Kerry? About fifty. Out of a proposed 55,000.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Are you suuuurrrreeee. That it isn't a Hillary Vote. And what's the difference between Johnson and Clinton. It's not the anti constitution stance so let's try hmmmmm Her foundation made more money than his New Mexico Debt? Or He's for 50 States with recreational toking versus her plans to enhance the taxes on it?

    How does that stance square with being a Cruz guy? Mighty wide separation. Cruz favored 10 commandments. Johnson got more laws passed in New Mexico than that and didn't even mention gun control.

    However he did veto around i700 measures and his controllable debt was only 5% or so the rest of the 7 percent total was federal money and programs. So he gets credit for 5/7ths of the debt increase not the whole one hundred percent which would have been more in a 60% Democrat legislature had he not voted against those measures assuming they were fiscal in nature. Thee is a question on kickbacks to Hollywood of 25% of any money they spend filming in NM. That one is still to be tracked down. It happened but all the info is not yet gathered.
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  • Posted by IamTheBeav 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wouldn't even begin to argue against your point, but is it even relevant? Donald Trump is no Republican or conservative in any traditional kind of way. Hillary Clinton's version of being a Democrat ain't exactly the friend of any working man I ever knew.

    The truth is that I am proud to be a Ted Cruz guy, and unless he does something to betray my trust, I suspect I always will be. That said, I'll take Gary Johnson over Hillary or Trump any day of the week. There's plenty not to like about Mr. Johnson, but at least I can look myself in the mirror afterwards knowing that I don't have a Trump or Hillary vote on my conscience.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And apparently a lot of voters who don't give a looter's ass about it when the annual fedgov operating deficit is $600+ billion, unemployment is really over 15%, and real inflation is over 8%.
    Stop the meddling. Vote Libertarian.
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  • Posted by rbunce 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ... and that is what I was looking for... the UN to again fail, especially without US military power to muscle over the mess so it becomes a US failure, on something so irrelevant to the US.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
    Election 2016 Clinton Trump Spread
    RCP Poll Average 45.8 43.4 Clinton +2.4Trending Down
    4-Way RCP Average 41.9 39.9 Clinton +2.0Trending Down

    My My Oh My now for the rest of todays story

    RCP Electoral Map 209 154 Clinton +55 (IS THAT ALL?)
    No Toss Up States 311 227
    Slippin and a slidin creeping and a climbing She say You don't luv me no more?

    Where have all the Ee-leck-torials Gone? Long time ago?

    So???? Here's the real one check this out.

    Average 8/26 - 9/11 -- -- 41.9 39.9 9.0 2.9 Clinton +2.0

    Notice it's the same plus 2.0 ha ha ha ...Klein and Johnson drop again....

    That boy needs to decide which side his butter has the bread?

    Up to date and uip to the minute. When Clinton drops out how many of them will vote for Klein and how many for Johnson...hmmmmmmm????

    She forgot her underarm spray since yesterday?
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nothing is a "good job for the UN" to handle. They have proven since 1945 to be an incompent stage where specific powers can abuse their trump card authority, and countries can make grand displays of blather about how much they care. Then they try to weasel the countries that agree to bend to their will into doing whatever the goober heads decide is "what is needed". It is a dysfunctional front for a whole lot of agendas, big and small. Too many tragedy's have gone by with UN "expression of regret" and similar crap for them to have any credibility. The US stood into the world power game because the UN has never worked. It enables politicians to manipulate various circumstances to their own ends.
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  • Posted by rbunce 9 years, 4 months ago
    Not knowing the name of cities in Syria that have been devastated by the Syrian civil war is irrelevant. Knowing that the US has no vital national interest in getting involved in the Syrian civil war is relevant. Sounds like a good job for the UN to handle.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 4 months ago
    Gary Johnson may not be a libertarian, and he may have screwed up, but he is gaining ground because he has a new radio ad campaign that effectively points out the problems of the current two party system. I like the ad, but I am no longer as enamored with him as I was when he was governor. Several politicians governed well as governors, and since have taken positions in the last few years that are contrary to how they governed.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 4 months ago
    I used to have a Leppo, but I sold it in a garage sale. Too expensive to maintain.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 4 months ago
    I used to have a Leppo, but I sold it in a Garage sale. Too costly to maintain.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, had you bothered to read the details of his comment you would see he agrees with Bernie on things that are not related to being a liberal. Johnson's primary agreement is on fighting unnecessary wars (empire building for the corporatocracy) that create more problems for Americans. The liberal Dems (and neocon GOP) have been in favor of this stupid policy for 2 decades.
    Liberals aren't promising to close down the Dept of Education, balance the budget by reducing spending (including cuts to welfare state), and eliminating the income tax completely. Johnson promises all those things. In those areas, Trump is more liberal than Johnson.
    Bottom line: check your premises. Analyze the details and use reason to draw your own rational conclusions.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course it was, the media as a whole is just a functionary of specific political and financial interests. I think they are just letting Gary go as far as he can just to continue to mess up an already screwed situation.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago
    Gotcha!
    That was clearly a gotcha question for a candidate
    who wants nothing to do with the wars of the Middle East.
    That was designed to help Shillary.
    Me dino ain't for Gary but I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
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