Detroit: Faith and Hope

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 12 years, 4 months ago to News
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Conservatives love to see Detroit's misery. Detroit is the home of Motown. Conservatives mask their real animosities behind labels like "progressive" and "liberal" but they never draw a conceptually consistent conclusion across all of the city bankruptcies to identify causes.

List of Bankruptcy Filings Since January 2010
All Municipal Bankruptcy Filings: 36
City and Locality Bankruptcy Filings (8):
-- City of Detroit
-- City of San Bernardino, Calif.
-- Town of Mammoth Lakes, Calf. (Dismissed)
-- City of Stockton, Calif.
-- Jefferson County, Ala.
-- City of Harrisburg, Pa. (Dismissed)
-- City of Central Falls, R.I.
-- Boise County, Idaho (Dismissed)
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/munici......

Most people alive today remember the Black race riots of 1967. They see the "white flight" to the suburbs. They do not know about the Belle Isle Race Riots of 1943 instigated by Nazi sympathizers among the hillbillies who came to Detroit, at the same time as the Negroes whom they hated and feared. (As one country song tells it: "By day I make the cars;l By night I make the bars.")

Here on Gult's Gulch is a plaint by a Detroit business owner about his woes. I am sympathetic, but I do note this: he allows that public education in Detroit had failed (granted) but he hired people who did not need education. "Therein lies the rub..." They filed for unemployment and they filed for workman's compensation, and they made his life hell. What if he had hired graduates of Catholic high schools?

Working for my master's degree (2010), at Eastern Michigan University, I had a class in Local History, taught by Prof. JoEllen Vinyard from her book _For Faith and Fortune: The Education of Catholic Immigrants in Detroit, 1805-1925_ (University of Illinois Press, 1998).
"Even before the massive European immigrations of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, Detroit had a tradition of Catholicism. Multiple immigrant groups became part of the city and considered it important to educate their daughters as well as their sons within the Church." http://press.illinois.edu/books/catalog/......

They got educated and they left for the suburbs, ever since Day One. White, black, rich, poor, Detroiters with aspirations left the inner city.

Meanwhile, from 1900 to 1980, the automotive manufacturers promised "good jobs" (high wages) that did not require an education. The result was FOUR GENERATIONS of parents who could not help their children with their homework. Ignorant whites clashed with ignorant blacks for power in the unions, while Americans of many ethnicities got educated and got out of town...

Moreover, the lesson of "Starnesville" is that its downfall originated with the owners of 20th Century Motors. That, too, applies to Detroit. Among the many failures, ills, evils, errors, and mistakes, they received tax breaks on their properties which replaced whole neighborhoods of homes. Poletown was the last disaster. The displaced homeowners went to other communities and the factory failed to pay off.

But if Detroit was destroyed by collectivism ( and mysticism) as I agree that it was, then so were a dozen other cities that failed because of mismanagement.


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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 4 months ago
    Hello MikeMorotta,

    I am a Mich. native. I remember the 67 riots. I am one of those Tool & Die Makers. Now
    I have run a successful business for over thirty years in the suburbs. I would not call myself conservative, although I have many conservative views.

    I believe it is a bit of a stretch and a generalization to say that “Conservatives love to see Detroit's misery.”
    Even if this is so for some, I do not believe it is because they enjoy seeing others suffer. What they see is a microcosm of our national economy and the consequences of all the policies which created the problems you have provided and it frightens them knowing it is spreading. If they have any positive reaction it is a “told you so” kind of satisfaction. It is that they find themselves feeling good because they were right while being told for decades they were wrong, not of glee at someone’s misery. They, no doubt hope that pointing this out will reverse the direction.

    In my time I have seen many companies leave Detroit and take their jobs out to the suburbs. The reasons I hear the most from my customers and fellow manufacturers is that the taxes are too high, the regulations too numerous and the crime and associated insurance costs are beyond any services or conveniences the city offered. There are many reasons for the downfall of the city, but the cost of doing business with the unions and the city government was a greater factor than lack of skilled workers.

    Manufacturing in the highest tech facilities (and I know because I own one) still require jobs of low as well as high skill and finding applicants with skills in Detroit was harder because no one wanted to stay or commute to the city when they could follow the factories to the suburbs where the costs and crime were lower.

    We didn’t start locking our doors at night till recently. We locked our car doors travelling within Detroit since 1967.

    The City spent more than it took in and provided low service under corrupt democrat big government and the financial ruin was predictable for years and anybody who tried to point it out was shutdown as a racist. Why would you stay?

    Were many other cities destroyed by collectivism? Yes! If your point is that the conservatives do not call progressives or liberals “collectivist” Then, Yes!

    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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    • Posted by $ 12 years, 4 months ago
      Thanks, again, O.A., I appreciate your cogent reply. Other cities have gone bankrupt, but we did not see a slew of declamations about liberal, progressive policies, though, indeed, they probably were also at the root of those failures. Detroit is a special target for conservatives in a way that Central Falls, Rhode Island, or Prichard, Alabama, could not be.

      Among Detroit's many problems were the fact that it was a one-horse town, an automotive capital. True, Burroughs and later CompuWare were there, but GM and Ford dominated with Chrysler filling in.

      Other automotive manufacturer (Nash, Willys, Winton) located in other towns (Kenosha, Toledo, Indianapolis, Cleveland), but those towns never developed the single-industry ecology that Detroit did.

      The same story played out in Manchester, England, a textile center when Karl Marx met Friedrich Engels. Sheffield was another: steel cutlery. Pittsburgh and steel. Rochester and Kodak. Once the market changes, the floor falls out.

      I found a lot of truth in THE ECONOMY OF CITIES by Jane Jacobs.
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      • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 4 months ago
        I believe that the progressive, collectivist, statist, liberal (call them what you will) policies of Detroit have driven other businesses besides the auto industry elsewhere. They have also served to dissuade other businesses from locating there. "One horse-town" or no, ultimately no difference...
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        • Posted by $ 12 years, 4 months ago
          Well, yes, indeed, as in old cities all across the USA. How San Francisco hangs on, I do not know, but apparently, it does. NYC also remains special. But, generally, the trend is well known. Following that, though, after a hiatus, came "gentrification." In Cleveland, where once were steel mills now super-sized Big Box malls draw people. Old factories were converted to loft apartments. The trends are neither consistent nor complete, of course. New London, Connecticut, was famously looted by Pfizer Pharmaceuticals, as thanks for their victory in using eminent domain to seize some people's private property for other people's private interests.
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  • Posted by Warmac9999 12 years, 4 months ago
    When your philosophic mindset is one of social welfare and entitlements and scorn for wealth creation, the only policies that can be considered are those that lead to individual misery. De Tocquiville pointed this out in his comments about socialism.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years, 4 months ago
    I didn’t know about the Belle Isle Race Riots. I did know that southern blacks migrated in masses to the north during WW2 to find work and avoid Jim Crow laws. Very interesting. So did this “clash” of blacks and hillbillies play out in other northern cities at the time?
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    • Posted by $ 12 years, 4 months ago
      Well, yes, everywhere. Ethnic (racial) conflicts are a reality in American history. But, that said, tap dance was invented at Five Points, arguably the toughest neighborhood in New York, when African "brush" was merged with Irish "hop." Overall, if Detroit had ONE problem it was the lack of education that factory work rewarded so well. OTOH, in the sociological class of "Middletown" (1929) the Lynds found that workers at the Ball Glass factory of Muncie, Indiana, wanted to learn to operate the machinery as a path to upward mobility. Today, it is the "Windows" interface. For some reason, that seed never took in Detroit. Maybe it was the unions combined with the management, but in Detroit, the goal of getting a factory job was to have the same job all your life. For those for whom that was not true - tool & die, maybe - they were mobile and flexible, and moved to the suburbs, leaving Detroit behind.
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