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EPA spills again in Colorado

Posted by dbhalling 4 years, 2 months ago to News
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The Environmental Protection is admitting to a spill from a treatment plant it set up after it dumped 3 million gallons of toxic wastewater into a Colorado river last year.

If a company had done this, it would be all over the news, Obama would be screaming, and demanding billions in fines.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 4 years, 2 months ago
    The principal objectives of the political class are the acquisition and maintenance of power, immunity from prosecution and criticism, and to be treated with respect whether they deserve i tor not.
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  • Posted by $ ObjectiveAnalyst 4 years, 2 months ago
    Hello dbhalling,
    Nothing will change until individuals working for government agencies are no longer de facto immune from suit. When a government agency is at fault and sued any payout comes from the taxpayers... the taxpayer is essentially suing itself! How's that for justice?!?!
    Regards,
    O.A.
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    • Posted by ChuckyBob 4 years, 2 months ago
      Then I guess the real path to put them in their place is a civil suit. Most "public servants are immune from suit if something happened in the course of their assigned duties and they were acting in a reasonably prudent manner. If you can prove that they were negligent, willfully committed bad acts, or were acting outside of their assigned duties they are fair game. So, start a civil suit against THE INDIVIDUAL, not the EPA. Even if it can't move forward, one and a half years of discovery can become quite a punishment.
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      • Posted by $ ObjectiveAnalyst 4 years, 2 months ago
        Hello ChuckyBob,
        Indeed; more of this needs to occur. If it can be done, I wonder why more of it is not commonplace. This could be of interest.. https://www.justice.gov/usam/civil-re...
        Respectfully,
        O.A.
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        • Posted by ChuckyBob 4 years, 2 months ago
          The big problem is that the plaintiff has to front the money for the suit. There is no guarantee of getting anything back.

          When I worked for a governmental agency I was sued personally for an act performed in the course of my job. The agency was not federal, but rather of the PDRC (People's Democratic Republic of California). The plaintiff's (we'll call him LW) hack lawyer ran up an $83k bill before he fired the hack and hired a good attorney. We settled for the bill of the second attorney (abt $14k). Then the hack sued LW for his bill plus damages. In the end it cost LW A LOT of money for really nothing in return.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 4 years, 2 months ago
    Local government officials of individual states, counties and municipalities would have far more at stake than to screw up like the all-powerful grandiose federal EPA gets away with doing.
    Me dino says pass that environmental watchdog buck back in reverse to where it belongs.
    Should I be president, I would roar to render the EPA extinct.
    All of its laid off personnel (their number next to nothing compared to laid off coal miners) would then be freed up to find or create jobs that would much more benefit the economy than the destructive libtard Progressive agendas.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 2 months ago
    In 1975, I got together with three doctors, a prosecutor, and our sons, 14 in all and took a large rubber raft down the Colorado River from Lake Powell to Lake Mead, over the rapids and through breathtaking scenery. We swam in the icy waters that were so clear you could see to the bottom. Thanks to the recent caretakers, I doubt if I'd try that now.
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  • Posted by awebb 4 years, 2 months ago
    My grandparents watch very mainstream news and when I visit them, I'm always amazed at what topics aren't reported on at all or what topics get no more than 30 seconds of coverage.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 4 years, 2 months ago
    I am sure the EPA cares what they did to the Native Americans. It was not that many years ago, a friend of mine in the Army was doing the government bidding, testing what happened when psychotropic drugs were put in the Indians' water source. It was hush hush, but he was so upset at having to monitor the effects, tahat he got out of the Army as soon as he could. He could not take it any longer. It is like when the EPA goes after citizens they want to control, while ignoring .nearby real issues they ought to address. Also, the way the blames cows for methane, but ignore the government weather warfare installations for affecting the jet wstream.
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 years, 2 months ago
      I ignore the government weather installations affecting the jet stream too...and the moon landing really happened.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 4 years, 2 months ago
        True and they found aliens on the moon! For the new people. The astronauts landed, looked around and found aliens then footprints WOW. The neat thing is this when they left the aliens left with them all the way back to splash down But here's the real neat part. When the got back to earth the aliens had disappeared. There was however photographic proof

        Don't believe me. Think about it Every word is the objectiv truth.

        tick tick tick tick tick light bulb time!!!!!!!!

        When they landed on the moon the astronauts were the aliens. When the landed back on earth they were no longer aliens. At least ... we hope so.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 4 years, 2 months ago
    "EPA said the water that spilled from he plant was partially treated, and the metals present in it should quickly settle to the bottom of waterways where they are less harmful." GE had to dredge the Hudson river to remove PCB that had settled there and been covered up by silt. This cost about $1.6B and is almost done. No one was harmed by the covered up PCB and there was no danger of it being introduced into the water but the EPA forced them to dig it up. No doubt some of it was sent downstream during the process. They should have used the EPA's standard...
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    • Posted by ChuckyBob 4 years, 2 months ago
      During the 1849 Gold Rush in the PDRC there were a lot of hydrologic mining operations going on. They would blast placer deposits with large water cannon called "monitors". The resultant mud would then go through a series of sluce boxes that had mercury in the riffles to capture the gold through amalgamation. A lot of this mercury washed downstream. So nowadays they advise that no more than two fish per week should be eaten from the Sacramento River and none should be eaten when pregnant. Bottom feeding fish, such as cats, should be avoided.
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      • Posted by $ Flootus5 4 years, 2 months ago
        Same with the Carson River below the Comstock only from the old mills around Dayton rather than placering. Elevated mercury in fish in Lahontan Reservoir. A declared super fund site. But to "clean" it up they would have to tear up the entire riparian zone where the Cottonwoods lining the river are the only deciduous trees for miles around.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 4 years, 2 months ago
          I get it save the trees and poison everytning else. Are cottonwoods renewable or....
          Does Mercury affect cotton woods or....

          Hard decision renewable humans or renewable trees. How many 4th branch of Government bureau-rats got to vote on that choice?

          Come on. first you locate and trace the water table and see what can be done. Hannaford in Washington State has a full blown nucler waste leak heading to the columbia and they claim it's been blocked off.

          I guess they figure they'll be dead not long after the trees and who cares after all "I was only doing my job by the regulation book and wasn't asked to think it through. "
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  • Posted by wiggys 4 years, 2 months ago
    who works for the epa "people" and people are falable. unfortunately the people who WE employ i.e. the civil servants at the epa do not believe you and I sometimes make a mistake only that they are holier than thou. so we would get a fine and they get a raise versus in my opinion being thrown in jail for their attitude.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 years, 2 months ago
    Perhaps we need an even more gothic, bleeding gun to instill a fire for government responsibility. Like King George, these recent events should be instilling fire in an amendment demanding government responsibility. What is the key to the value determination? Not a new, arbitrary value each time, but simple, clear Milton Friedman oriented involuntary servitude assessments. Move all issues to liquidity and it all becomes so easy!
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  • Posted by chad 4 years, 2 months ago
    Fine the principals of the EPA involved in the spill, demand the same reparations and jail time demanded of any private individual.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 4 years, 2 months ago
    But, but...the experts told us...

    I just don't know what will happen to us if even our technocrat experts can't make everything work. Oh my.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 4 years, 2 months ago
    'Should' means possibly won't and 'settled' to the bottom means to the bottom of what , Bedrock with everything above a water table? They don't even lie or cover up good.
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