The Clinton Foundation Scandal Is "Bigger Than Watergate"
"Bigger Than Watergate" is what Mayor Rudy Giuliani said about the Clinton Foundation scandal and your friendly neighborhood old dino has been thinking the same thing for a while,
Or as the Bad Hair Day Trumpet would put it, "It is yuge. Yuge, I tell you. YUGE!"
Or as the Bad Hair Day Trumpet would put it, "It is yuge. Yuge, I tell you. YUGE!"
A very intelligent architect (and Ayn Rand fan) I work with keeps saying this is our last president. I think he may be right. This could be an end to anything resembling democracy in America. Could just be this family takes over like some 3rd world royalty, ending all elections.
1.) As long as we protect the second amendment, we can't really have a monarchy in the US, the military won't take up arms against its own, and a 500,000-1 million man army is no match for 200 million +/- armed civilians anyway. The 2nd Amendment protects all of the others. It's not about home defense, it's about Constitutional defense.
2.) She looks old and weak, Bill looks even worse. I give her 50% chance of surviving 4 years, maybe 10% surviving 8, and probably no chance of making it through a re-election campaign anyway. The Clinton fatigue, the scandals, the media barrage will come back, but she is nothing remotely as charismatic as Bill, she won't survive the onslaught.
Either way, Trump is coming back in the polls, we may not have to endure the thought of it. Sure, he's probably crazy, but he's not a narcissistic emperor wanna-be with fits of mania like Hillary.
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Ask the military who despises her to do such a thing. It would take a declaration of martial law. Once that happened she would be arrested and 'court martiale and either imprisoned or executed or just disappeared but we would be left with a military government. And if you ask the military that question they might well ask you in return how come you broke the faith with us?
Are you worth it? The careerists would seize the opportunity and they would proclaim a caretaker government. The only other way that group - Obama etc. has is cutting back on the military and beefing up the Directorate of Internal Security until they were a full fledged protective echelon and then their careerists would do the same thing and oath of office be damned.ers
As for the pwoer of 200 million of Americans. Demonstrate that. You won't see a single socialist volunteer which cuts you base at best in half. A bunch of half baked weekend plinkers? What will you see in the way of violence? Same one's that are using violence right now.
Spare me. you live in a dream world. If there so hot shot patriotic why aren't they demonstrating by firing a ballot instead of a bullet. There won't be tanks in the street - just a legal take over about 24 hours in length and very peaceful - and your precious citizens would be back to work Monday morning weapons in the house intact. with a new President wearing stars instead of those stuipid red or blue ties. And who would be behind it. Same people who are behind the way things are right now. Oh ho iyou don't like this pipe dream next election you can try again for practice and we'll make sure....... right uh huh...
Where are they right now, today,. this November? If they can't do the right thing with some freedoms what makes you think they'll do it in February when little change except no more stupid poltiical ads is promised. The debt is repudiated. Everyone is given a just as phony starting bank account deposit of what ever. Just keep asking yourself is the country is worth it where are the heros now? And if not now when? Too subjective for my realistic thinking and I got to paricipate when we war gamed the whole thing. Where were you?
No the odds on favorite that uses violence is a race war scenario. The military's attitude is stand by and let them until their homeless, foodless, and bullet less. Why should they risk their lives when the population couldn't even uphold their end of the bargain to begin with. Military didn't swear to defend you or you or iyou. or your property of Mom's Apple Pie. Their oath is to the Constitution. See them doing anything?
1.) I never actually fired a military-issued weapon during 8 years in the Air Force, most of it deployed in a war zone, the "weekend plinkers" actually applies more to 75 or 80% of the military than it does to the civilians. In my 20 years or so following the service, at my highest, I probably go through over 1000 rounds a month, at a minimum around 150. If "plinking" is taking down a target with my .338 at +/- 1000 yards... then... Ok. Whatever.
2.) There are basically 200 million gun owners in the United States, assuming the current population is close to 400 million. "Socialists" or whatever you call them, are pretty much the Bernie wing of the democrats. Thats maybe 10% of the electorate. Polarization of the two parties through severely gerrymandered districts has turned the primaries into fruit-loop season, you will hear no argument from me there, but 70% of the voters of either party are not dramatically different from one another. The far left and the far right are kind of the problem for opposite reasons but pretty much unavoidable until we somehow do away with the elected officials abilities to control their own voter boundaries.
3.) I indicated the military would not take up arms against the US citizenry if ordered to, no idea what your ramble is about that. I could not fathom it when I was in, I work in an environment where over 40% of my hundreds of coworkers are vets, and it would be unthinkable now. The 'careerists', as you call them... I would classify that as the political ass-kissers looking for the 3rd or 4th star... below that, and you won't find any support for a liberal president. You may recall Marine 1's pilot asking Obama to leave the helicopter last year and salute the Marine at the door that he walked passed and hopped in without rendering the customary courtesy. If that Major or LtCol pilot was a 'careerist' ass-kisser, that obviously would not have happened. He did the right thing though. When I served, it was under the first Clinton, and there was no secrecy or obscurity, we were only waiting him out. There was zero respect for him, but rather, there was respect for our government and our way of life. Is it wonderful? No, but nothing really is around the world. I was always happy to come home.
4.) No there would not be a 'careerist' takeover of the government. For shit-sake, there are 3 million federal civilians and over a million contractors in the federal government. A few random generals are not going to be that sophisticated or that likely to attempt. beyond that, the National Guard, stupid and useless as it generally is, is not under the federal military chain of command, they report to the Governor of their state. They would however overwhelm the 0.01% of the military that would go along with what you describe.
5.) You greatly under-estimate the American Experience. It wasn't that long ago that the country mobilized to defeat the Nazis and the Japanese. We weren't debating our petty squabbles, we knew what must be done. This country has always somehow managed to pull through. It hasn't always been without problems, but we have always prevailed one way or another. Does that mean that I don't believe our government is corrupt? No, rather, I think there is unfortunately a lot of corruption in the elected-class.
6.) No idea what you mean with the ballot / bullet or whatever.
7.) War gamed what? no idea, I was probably busy in Mogadishu, Ethiopia, Rwanda, Bosnia, Saudi, Kuwait, Egypt, the DMZ, and Thailand. I wasn't doing war "games".
8.) Race wars.. Ok, if you actually think there is much to that, rather than Soros & others paying protestors to show up and be 'protestors'... For example, cop shoots a black felon in Minneapolis, blacks protest in Dallas. Something happens in Baltimore, protests in Georgia or something. If race tensions were really 'boiling over' I would assume the protests & burning would take place a the point of ignition - like it did with Rodney King in LA.... Do I think it could "never" happen, no, but I think its unlikely. For the areas that have a lot of racial strife (not coincidentally in the cities that have been democrat-ruled for decades), there are 10 or 20 smaller cities where the problems are nowhere near as severe. It's not about race, its about poverty, which happens to look like its about race. I haven't seen wealthy predominantly-black suburbs protesting..
Population at present is a bit over 324 million third largest in the world
Source: Current Population Survey, Voting and Registration Supplement
http://thedataweb.rm.census.gov/TheDa...
F4CB794502D11F419B69A36C676.htm
Registered Voted by percent of elibile voter pool.
1998 67.1 45.3
2002 66.5 46.1
2006 67.6 47.8
2010 65.1 45.5
2014 64.6 41.9
Voter Registration Statistics Data
Total number of Americans eligible to vote 218,959,000
That's US Census etc. SWAG or Scientific Wild Ass Guess.
Supporters of socialism include the entire Democrat party the asked to be called socialist not a few months ago and that number includes the Rino majority of the Republican Party. As a minimum counting only the Democrat version which includes secular progressives, Green Party etc. majority the registered voters. It also incudes the preponderence of the Republican Party the second largest number of registered voter. For this paragraph IJ am not using leftist defintions and terminology and measure postion based on the Consituttion as the Center Not the Center of the Left. It is after all a Constitutional Republic until maybe Jan 20th.
Source US Census and a several research organizations incuding but not limited to PEW, Real Clear and the National Registry. So far for your statements I see only ...one. opinion cited.
Total number of Americans registered to vote 146,311,000 meaning 72,048,000 are not registered .about one third. As for the rest of your rebuttal personal opinion but I hope it's based on something a little better than the first two WAGs. That means wild ass guess in the military. that's a subject for later today.
Eight years Air Force nice. To be applauded. But I'll put up my own 24 years in the combat arms Now you may have been a jet jockey or a Spectre crew or even Air http://Rescue.So We'll leave it go with just one word from me. Infantry. And since that's all conjecture I'll stick with my version.
I'm very glad you were busy in all those places. I only had five years in official combat zones. You were doing what? I'm just a simple soldier whose field of studies is Political Science. Mostly Vietnam, some South and Central America and some Africa.
You aren't old enough to remember any thing else so we'll skip the experience factor.
Spit is the preferred spelling. It has no sake.
Hows your vision? You don't understand the difference between ballots and bullets as a preference and the legal aspects? Amazing.I'm facing cataract surgery myself.
Almost right at the end but the term is 'it's economics.'
Had you been reading along with us for the past year and half you wouldn't have included the other part. I don't condone racist remarks in any way,shape form written or spoken. The only way to defeat it is not allow it. And that includes the government being a chief supporter of both racism and sexism.
i would appreciate not using those terms.
Right now having had a productive debate. I'll yield back my time so you can do a little research. Objectively speaking you had two areas with false premise information and the rest was subjective personal opinion. But you did try which is a step in the right direction.
Ah yes wargamed 'up holdijng our oath of office." Not to worry plinker when and if it happens it will be over before you have time to reload down at the firing range. But as always there are glitches and no plan survives the entire battle much less a whole war scenario. Counter Revolutions a bit trickier than most.
Did i cover everything? it's one thirty AM and If i seem a bit brusque and sarcastic it is as Lawrence opined 'my manner.'
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In the late once great America, the last Progressive (socialist) president would likely copy the Banana Republic style of becoming "president for life."
Definition 1. A compliant follower.
Definition 2: Someone ruled by fear.
Old dino did some stupid sh*t way back when.
Thought I knew it all too.
I know about pain too. So there!
Old dinos tend to do silly stuff like that.
But I also feel for my hatchlings and their hatchlings.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/ + our wonderful leadership.
But I also feel for my hatchlings and their hatchlings.
All I can say about that is I wish my generation did a lot more to make things better.
Oh, no! It's out! It's out! Eating your face! Your face!
Bwahahaha!
Let your heart not be troubled.. That was just my H. P. Lovecraft impression.
Just the fact that we had 8 years of Bush, 8 years of Obama and now face 4-8 years of either Clinton or Trump, you can go and look in the mirror to see the enemy! Sad fact! But True....
Fortunately Chelsea is a homely little troll that seems to not really have any political acumen at all. It should end with the Hillary.
In contrast, if Trump fails, I kind of think any of his kids might be a better candidate than he is.
Of course they probably shouldn't have been secret in the first place but that's beside the point. They were classified.
They now represent the worst of what Ayn Rand was warning us about 50 years ago! As Cicero alluded to, "a nation deserves its leaders" so if Hillary does somehow hoodwink the public into voting for her, it only goes to show just how "bankrupt" the electorate is.
It is either bankrupt morally and devoid of any integrity or, it is 50 years of Hegelian indoctrination through our long corrupt national educational system and that hoax posing as "Higher Education"! For what its worth!
Maybe I'm being selfish, but I prefer to be somehow standing outside a nation or those who own a Clintonista Regine.
You get a +1 anyway because I know what you are saying.
We are not going to find an email with a price list.
Good golly gee!
galentol
But call old dino Hit Man.
He had someone gather some rocks and carry them out on the beach where there were no rocks at all.
Then Bill had himself filmed walking along the beach.
Bill paused upon spying the rocks and assumed a contemplative state.
Then Bill used the rocks to form a cross and then walked on.
Rush laughed the whole time he was telling that.
I never saw such a film but I trust Rush way more than I ever trusted Bill.
The ultimate scandal and slap in the face to every American still possessing some level of ethics and integrity, is the blind support of the MSM and the voters that would support Jack the Ripper so long as his name was followed with a D...
Respectfully,
O.A.
I almost wrote that the election would bear the truth of that out, but it only took me scant seconds to realize that the election may end up so fixed that determining that particular truth or falsehood would be completely impossible.
The rest probably goes toward her campaign! (laughing even though it's sick)
- Adolph Hitler
Now me with my long ago making an A in creative writing suddenly finds myself making up the name, Caligularita Clinton.
And why not? Shillary can do anything she wants.
The palace guard killed crazy Caligula.
Would the Secret Service turn on a Caligularita? Kinda doubt it. That wimpy FBI directer blew his chance to take out the evil hag early.
Our Founding Fathers risked the hangman as true patriots. Their governmental descendants only care about careers and pensions.
They have not only usurped the spoils for themselves, confounding our control of them but have insured that if per chance we do, we have not the necessary mechanisms to do the right thing.
In short, they have made many in their own image without their awareness of it.
Safety and security we ain't getting at all!
What is the future to hold , if they keep getting away with everything. What also comes to mind is these f--- ing co.s like Boeing and others who enable this looting. Ethics only matter when it's convenient . This country's political mix is like a deluge of disappointment and disgust.
Also, I think many of our voters have grown so corrupt that they will vote for some sow like Shillary just because she does get away with anything.
I never dreamed I'd see the day that the top RINOs of the GOP would openly proclaim that they will vote for the evil hag.
I once posted here Rush Limbaugh predicting that would happen, but I did not think they would be so shamelessly open about it.
We are in our last days of Rome with leaders sworn to protect us (via the Constitution they despise) letting the barbarians swarm by the unvetted hordes.
Yet who knows what other deals have been made behind the backs of the public.
Hopefully, there remains such revealing email to be hacked.
Now if I was a corrupt RINO, I would not have any email conversations with Shillary.
But then I'm not a corrupt RINO.
That speaks volumes about how low the integrity of our politicians has sunk and about the moral depravity of our society.
Somehow they never got around to applyinig it to themselves.
Built in icense to continue the socialist fascist dictatorship. Sure thing Or Lottery ticket. Take your pick.