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Yes. Excellent book and an excellent ruse. Loved the entire series.
Regards,
O.A.
(http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=198...) I am C. Ivie
The Centauri system was one of our study samples. It is a trinary star system consisting of Alpha Centauri A and B as well as Proxima Centauri. It lies about 4.3 light years away from our solar system and planets have been detected around all three stars.
In our initial studies we realized that propulsion presented a major engineering challenge. We initially considered a high specific impulse ion drive powered by a 10 megawatt breeder reactor. That design could reach a peak velocity of abut 3 percent of the speed of light or 9,000 kilometers per second after about ten years of constant acceleration. If a flyby was intended there would be no need to slow down at the destination so the mission could only make a series of observations of the three star systems.
Subsequent studies included a positron annihilation antimatter reactor which could achieve peak velocities of about 15 percent of light speed. With this system mission times on the order of 60 years became feasible.
Now there is a new concept promoted in part by Stephen Hawking that involves laser powered light sails. In principal this system can achieve velocities approaching 70 percent of light speed in just a few days. So far, none of the studies have identified any fundamental showstoppers but the engineering challenges are enormous. It is conceivable that unmanned exploratory probe missions could be launched toward several of the nearer stars within 10 years. Right now interstellar missions are in the same place as interplanetary missions were in the late 1950's. Now we have sent probes to all of the major planets in the Solar system and have landed on several of them. A powerful influence will be the participation of private companies in the development of the technologies necessary.for truly ambitious and advanced missions. There are a number of companies that are seriously studying asteroid mining which could become a multi trillion dollar enterprise within the next ten to twenty years. I am consulting for one of these. I was involved in the first American artificial satellite, explorer one, and several of the lunar and planetary missions that have flown since. Technology and capability have advanced much more rapidly than any of us could have anticipated in the 60's and 70's. Very exciting stuff.
Private corps are the key to the long term success of interstellar exploration and exploitation of resources. The biggest risk to our advancement is the creeping or leaping collectivism. The lack of govt support for private property or intellectual property. Sarbanes Oxley, regulations snuffing out the entrepreneur and his motivation.
The fastest terran space craft thusfar had a top speed of 90 thousand mph, so the craft going to Proxima must travel at a velocity more than 500 times faster.
This will require discovery of completely different (much more advanced) transportation technology, or use of the alien craft at area 51.
It is now believed that gravity waves travel at about 800 times the speed of light and that the use of gravity is truly free energy that will change the way we live forever. It will be most interesting to find out what the God particle is actually capable of. The folks in Cern probably have an inkling!
http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9909087.pdf
With that being said, this treatise/paper is dated 1999 with supporting citations being prior to that date. Could it be that work having taken place over the past 17 years might have advanced the body of knowledge beyond that which went into the study? It seems that even from the narrative, there are areas of speculation whereas hard evidence lacking or perhaps assumed in forming the hypothesis. Also, was this paper peer reviewed?
In closing, your pointing me in the direction of this study is greatly appreciated and will be honestly considered.
As for the Earth like planet, long term of a generation length have been done with the Voyager spacecrafts. Nice to have a career length project.
But whatever the case, there some serious flaws in the whole astral projection thought anyhow.
Galt's Barsoom, baby! ;)
Not exactly what most people think of when discussing a spacecraft, and it depends on tech that has not yet been invented or proven.
Thanks for the info, DrZ. Clearly shows that there are some exploration plans afoot.
http://www.space.com/32546-interstell...
If FTL travel and the ansible are possible, people will be living sci-fi dreams of an interstellar republic.
So, a toast:
"May cultural differences encourage us to build bridges of understanding to all that makes us unique."
Seven of Nine; Tertiary Adjunct of Uni Matrix 01
" If, at warp 9, it takes 70 years to go from one quadrant of our galaxy to another,"
This was always hard to understand because if the major powers in Star Trek take up the good part of a quadrant, travelling from one end to the other would take years.
"Question. Are we worthy?"
From a philosophical point of view, we're every bit as worthy of basic rights as members of primitive band of hunter/gatherers or members of some unimaginably advanced society.
This question, "are we worthy" was a theme in the miniseries for the reimagined BSG, and the question seemed to echo through the first two seasons. (I didn't finish the series and may go back to it.)
Yes. Star Trek usually gets this one right. It takes many decades for their ships to get from one end of the galaxy to the other, 100,000 light-years. The nearest galaxies are in the millions of light-years, which would take thousands of years to reach, so they never even think of going there without some super-fast alien technology beyond their understanding.
When I started watching the show in the 80s, we didn't know if planets existed outside our solar system. So it seemed a stretch that there would be so many planets just in our spiral arm of the Milky Way. Maybe they were right about that.
I agree with nickursis' coments below saying that even a trip to the nearest start, 4.3 light-years away, is impractical, which means travelling to other galaxies is pure dreaming.
In TOS people consider the warp scale to be [warp factor]^3 to be how many time faster than light you're going. This puts the ship in the 100s of times faster than light, which sounds really fast. I imagine after that series the writers realized that even thoughts speed would require months just to reach nearby stars. They wanted to make the new ships faster, but wanted to avoid warp factors high into the double digits. So they reworked the scale with 10 being the absolute max.
This is consistent with your point about large supernovas or events in other galaxies. I think people don't realize how fast the galaxy and the Local Group of galaxies are.
Yes. That series disappointed me. The premise sounds wonderful. The re-imagined BSG shows part of what it could have been: a single ship, conflict among crews who circumstance forces to work on the same ship, no allies, a trip home that make take a lifetime. The producers gave Voyager the same feel as TNG, and even referred to it in some docs as season 8, as if it were a continuation of TNG. But the premise was supposed to be completely different.
In a rocket flying at 25,000 mph it will take 155 days to travel 1 AU. Over 26,500 years to travel 1 light year at 25,000 mph. We have some work ahead to get up to speeds that can eat up the vast distances. A thousand mile hike begins with one step. Good evening!
Particularly when the many factors such as age of universe ,our planet and the incredibly short time humans have been here. There are likely millions of planets that have a moon and water and an atmosphere.
Drake would have used this and the hundreds of new discoveries since the Kepler launch to increase the multiple of his formula.
So for such a system to work, it seems like you'd have to carry a good deal of material that expands as a gas when heated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_S...
Niven and Pournell used the Orion as a major plot device in their book Footfall in 1985, so its been around a long time. Superb alien invasion sci-fi book, btw. Poul Anderson's 1983 novel Orion Shall Rise used it, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
Thanks for the link .
Author?
A project like this is so big, we'd sooner fight and win a war of liberation and revolution on Earth than complete this project on our own, with the Grand Looters' Collective interfering at every turn. Ragnar Danneskjöld would need to command a fleet of privateers, similar to Jean Lafitte's fleet in the early nineteenth century, and likely with ten times as many ships as Lafitte had. Three carrier battle groups might do it--and I'm talking about the new Ford class carriers, not the now-obsolete Nimitzes. (The old Big E is already in the boneyard--can't use her.) We'd need Boeing's SeaLaunch ship (if that isn't already in the boneyard, too). And even then, we're better off building a mining colony and factory complex on the far side of the Moon, where we could resurrect the old Nerva program for motive power. Then we jump to Jupiter, long enough to scoop up some hydrogen--wait. You'll need heavy hydrogen. That means landing on the dwarf planet Ceres. I have reason to believe the ices on that and other dwarf planets and large asteroids in the Belt have twice the deuterium, kilo for kilo, as the oceans of Earth.
If we can accomplish all that, then we have the resources to build a generation ship to accelerate to 42 million MPH (at one g), coast along, then reverse heading, brake, and "inject" into the Alpha Centauri C system. Once there, our children find the planet and land. If we can trust the intelligence we have in that article.
If we can get off the ground and make it to the moon, the interference problem vanishes. But I think here's one case where you need Hank Rearden in your community before you can even start.
One thing you'll notice: I haven't said anything about that world already being inhabited. I doubt it would be. That red sun--life would need a yellow sun. Prepare to seed that world from scratch, if the seeds can sprout.
Boundless. Life on this planet survives in conditions that are deadly for us.