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  • Posted by DaveM49 11 years, 5 months ago
    I don't think this is going to be a good year for incumbents. People have had it with a government that does nothing but keep chairs warm and just might be realizing that they can change the fannies in the seats.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 5 months ago
    I’m a little concerned about this loss or win depending on how you look at it. Steven Colbert has been promoting Brat in his flip-a-district skit for a couple weeks now. What if he won because of pranksters? And how will that play out against a democrat rival in the fall? He will be a weaker contender than Cantor would have been.
    Though, Cantor doesn’t do anything for me personally, so good luck to Brat. Cheers.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
      he is an economics professor. Steven Colbert is an entertainer
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago
        Mimi's point is that, given that primaries are open in VA, the race may have been sabotaged by Democrats and Independents pretending to be Republicans.
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        • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
          perhaps. except for the fact that all the prog news outlets are freaked out this morning. After all, Cantor was a known quantity to them. Also, where the democrats have been great at getting turnout for presidential elections, they are not as well organized in the midterms. I am still waiting for a bag of votes that haven't been counted show up for Cantor
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          • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 5 months ago
            Me thinketh they protest too much. I still feel this race was purposely sabotaged. Brat seems like an interesting guy; however... did you see how quickly the conversation turned to immigration? Watch how that debate will be heated up over the next few months. It’s the only corner the dems have left to run to that they can propagandize their way out of.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago
    All of us have noticed Cantor's loss nearly simultaneously. What I don't know is how he actually came to power in the first place. He has never really done anything, has he?
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    • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 5 months ago
      Good riddance, you mealy mouthed, two-faced RINO!
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      • Posted by Kath 11 years, 5 months ago
        I agree, but can Brat beat the Democrat? Political shenanigans are happening here in Colorado with the Dems running ads in the Rep primary for governor, hoping they will steer voters to the candidate they like to run against the abysmal Hickenlooper. Was this the same thing?
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        • Posted by Bobhummel 11 years, 5 months ago
          Brat ran on a conservative platform. It works every time it is accurately and sincerely articulated.
          Brat's platform:
          That the free enterprise system is the most productive supplier of human needs and economic justice,
          That all individuals are entitled to equal rights, justice, and opportunities and should assume their responsibilities as citizens in a free society,
          That fiscal responsibility and budgetary restraints must be exercised at all levels of government,
          That the Federal Government must preserve individual liberty by observing Constitutional limitations,
          That peace is best preserved through a strong national defense,
          That faith in God, as recognized by our Founding Fathers is essential to the moral fiber of the Nation.

          Cheers from a fellow Coloradan
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        • Posted by strugatsky 11 years, 5 months ago
          Do you really think that the final vote will be based on who's a better candidate? We are so polarized that the votes will be 140% along the party lines. In fact, if a horse or a criminal enters the race, the votes will still be along the party lines. Hold on, did I say "if'? Sorry, that has just happened in California, so move along, nothing new here...
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        • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
          Kath, who are the dem ads supporting?
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          • Posted by Bobhummel 11 years, 5 months ago
            KH, The word on the street is that the Dems are going to vote in the Colorado state primary on the 24th, to elect the weakest and/or most repugnant Republican candidate to the conservative base to try and drive them away from the ballot box in November. The biggest prize is obviously the Governor's race. The state senate is the next. The Dems hold a 1 seat majority. Our narcissistic Colorado governor has straddled so many fences during his term that he has one foot in Utah and the other in Kansas. His gun grab and reprieve for cold blooded murderer Nathan Dunlap will hopefully result with his ball dangling from that fence over his bar in LoDo (lower Denver) when he goes back to making beer and serving food to people going to a Rockies game.
            Cheers.
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            • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
              Bob, n Colorado only Republicans can vote in the republican primary. what am I missing here? also, what are you referring to regarding Utah and Kansas?
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              • Posted by Bobhummel 11 years, 5 months ago
                Dems are registering as Repubs for the primary to vote for the most vulnerable candidate in the governors race which they see as Tom Tancredo.
                one can change their party affiliation about a month before and election. see
                https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/electio...

                The looters are running the state but I don't think they can throw the primary. I live in conservative Elbert County, and our liberal democrats go to great lengths to use their votes to screw with the state outcomes in primarys and go through histrionics to sound like they control the planet. I don't know how effective a tactic it will be, now that the Dem legislature just added a tax to 875,000 Coloradans to pay for the uninsured health care exchange costs. The Colorado citizens are getting pissed, even some of the liberal ones outside of Denver and Boulder that actually own something.
                WRT to the Utah and Kansas comment, Governor Hikenlooper straddles any mildly controversial issue with such broad statements of firm resolution on both sides of an issue that no one can figure out if he is for something or against it, then he finds a way to do neither, like the reprieve (delay) of Nathan Dunlap's execution while he is governor. He didn't execute the death warrant and he didn't commute it, he just postponed it for as long as he is the Gov. Which hopefully isn't for much longer.
                Oh, and ball should have been plural in my previous post.
                Cheers.
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    • Posted by RonC 11 years, 5 months ago
      No, but he has that soft spoken Virginia accent that sounds like honey dripping off the comb, and as he said last night he believes in a Virginia that works for everybody. And since he went to Washington he had his teeth whitened and hair died. Translation? He cares so much for the people of Virginia and the United States. BS. I stopped watching perky little Katie Couric when she asked people "How did you feel..." Early news says Cantor was beaten by an economics professor talking straight market forces solutions and close the border.

      I have no problem with immigration. My question is when did the rights of illegal foreign immigrants become more important than the rights of US citizens? I think we should close the border until our citizens are made whole from the second great depression. Then if tight labor markets slow our growth, then look at immigration. To stand and say immigration will grow the economy literally is a "rich get richer" solution. The rich will get richer with domestic labor too, but the whole population gains when the participation rate improves.

      So, basically the new guy said free markets are a good thing and what about us first...and won by a landslide. That could be a recipe for this fall. Even guys like Lindsey Graham could carry that message for a while, if it meant they would win. Of course the difference is we're looking for someone that will stay with that message.
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      • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
        He is an affiliate of the Ayn Rand Institute. He may have won because people actually voted against Cantor not for Brat. He has a scholarly trail demonstrating his advocacy of free markets, natural rights, property rights, and adhering to the Constitution. He mentioned Immigration 5th. Yes there is an immigration emergency. However, the welfare state is more crucial in the war against illegal immigration than immigration itself. Ask France, Great Britain, Germany about Muslim immigrants
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 5 months ago
          Eliminating the welfare state is the primary task. Nearly all problems are created directly, or like this illegal immigration, indirectly from such.
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        • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 5 months ago
          Hooraahh!! But let's not call it the 'war against', that gives DHS too many guns and ammo justifications and 100 mile border area of No Constitution. Let's try 'conundrum' or 'plague' of illegal immigration.

          As an added thought, imagine the effect of a drastic reduction of the welfare state to that of a limited, demonstrated and investigated needs based aid system on our lack of emigration. Maybe we could even afford to pay for the boat trip or maybe even convert some legislator's miles award cards.

          In fact that would be a mighty recognition of the travails of many if not most of the settlers of this continent and country. They couldn't make a living in Northern Europe, then Southern Europe, then Eastern Europe and so on, and they came here, many on boats provided by their home countries.
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        • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 11 years, 5 months ago
          Hello khalling,
          Yes. Remove the freebies and you strike at the root of the problem.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUL65ddS...
          Have a great day!
          O.A.

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          • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 5 months ago
            America has always been a beacon for those looking to have a better life. It's not merely the social benefits (unlike much of Europe). That said, once they arrive, they are quickly ushered into said social programs and turned into dependents. I don't believe that most migrated seeking such, but once here, the allure and ease of the dependence seduces them into it.
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            • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago
              I call bs, again.

              America, *until recent decades* has been a beacon for those looking to *build* a better life.

              The illegals that have been flooding the country for decades are coming here for the riches they feel they are entitled to, and lie, cheat and steal to get them.

              Having worked around illegals for close to 20 years, I know they come here looking to be dependents, they're not "turned". It's the social programs that attract them.
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              • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 5 months ago
                I'm going to call BS on you. Look around at the inner cities. Most of the small businesses are run by immigrants. The gas stations, the deli's, the corner marts, etc. And many of the lawn care, catering, hotel cleaning staff are immigrants.

                Yes, there are some who come under the allure of "free benefits." But having lived in Mexico for some time in the mid-90's, I'd say that most of the Mexicans who I came into contact with were desirous of the opportunity not of the hand-out. They knew that in America, they could save up some money and not have the gov't inflate the value to nothing in just a few months (hmmm, seems we've lost that), that they could start a business without having oppressive regulations and needing to bribe the officials and regulators to gain approval (hmmm, seems we've lost that as well), and that you can speak out against your government without fear of retribution (hmmm, seems we've lost that as well - why the hell would they want to come here, now, anyway?).
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                • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago
                  double BS.... you conflate "immigrants" with "illegal alien invaders".
                  Run by immigrants? You're implying that they are entrepreneurs who started their own businesses (how, if they're in the country illegally?) When you see someone behind the counter who can't speak English, but speaks fluent Spanish, odds are he's an illegal hired to circumvent regulation.

                  You apparently knew the Mexicans who stayed in Mexico. I'm not saying that people of Mexican descent are the dregs; I'm saying the ones who sneak across the border here are. I haven't been to Mexico; I haven't met the Mexicans who stay there and try to survive amidst the corruption; I've just met lots and lots of the dregs who sneak into my country and try to turn it into theirs.
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        • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago
          Equal to the welfare state is regulation; part of the draw for the dregs of these societies is their desirability as ways around government regulation.

          An example I've given before: a construction contractor will hire a "legalized" alien invader, pay him the going rate for a job class, deduct taxes, social security, etc, all perfectly above-board...

          And this "employee" will bring five illegal alien buddies to work off the books, paid by him, out of his wages sharing expenses and living conditions that the "poor" natives of the U.S. would find unacceptable.

          That's just one, blatant, example of employers circumventing the regulations in order to compete on price (may you smoke a turd in purgatory forever, Jimmy Carter, for promoting cost culturally dominant over quality)

          And, let me be clear; I don't give a crap about eliminating the welfare state where illegal alien invaders are concerned. I want death by torture for the employers who hire them, and I want the invaders themselves thrown bodily back across the border by trebuchet.
          Eliminating the welfare state is a solution for native-born parasites.

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          • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 5 months ago
            I like the 'trebuchet' . Could we have a reality TV show of the launches and flight. Mexico could hove their's for the landings and broadcast in Mexican for their Latino channels that many here watch on their cable. We could even vote on the most acrobatic or dramatic or technical. It might even be worth awarding metals.
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  • Posted by Bobhummel 11 years, 5 months ago
    It is really quit simple. He stopped representing his constituents in Virginia. Cantor was only representing the interests found inside the capital beltway, including BHO's comprehensive immigration reform fiasco.
    With only a few exceptions, the only thing that can be found inside that ring of snarled traffic that represents the true American spirit are the monuments to this nations founding or the documents stored in the museums there.
    It is absolutely pathetic that none of the members of the congress have congratulated Brat on his well deserved victory... as of this writing
    Cheers
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    • Posted by Bobhummel 11 years, 5 months ago
      A small addendum: This is the platform Dave Brat ran on. It is not surprising that the capitulating, compromising ruling class of the Republican leadership would oppose this platform:

      1. That the free enterprise system is the most productive supplier of human needs and economic justice,
      2. That all individuals are entitled to equal rights, justice, and opportunities and should assume their responsibilities as citizens in a free society,
      3. That fiscal responsibility and budgetary restraints must be exercised at all levels of government,
      4. That the Federal Government must preserve individual liberty by observing Constitutional limitations,
      5. That peace is best preserved through a strong national defense,
      6. That faith in God, as recognized by our Founding Fathers is essential to the moral fiber of the Nation.

      Cheers
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  • Posted by RevJay4 11 years, 5 months ago
    Cantor's arrogance bit him in the arse. May this apparent surprise result infect the rest of the rino incumbents this election season.
    My mouth to God's ear, I pray.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago
    OMFG... O'Really Factor's talking points is on.

    O'Really is claiming that the illegal alien invasion wasn't the issue that beat Cantor; it was class warfare. Because his campaign spent $170k eating at steakhouses, while Brat's campaign spent $200k total, that's evidence, to O'Really, that the people of his district saw him living large (and apparently got jealous...)

    I still can't figure out how that progressive blowhard stays #1 in his timeslot.
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