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1984

Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 9 months ago to Books
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After years of prodding from a couple friends I decided to start reading 1984. I'm about 40 minutes into it so far and find it quite interesting. I'm one of the few who didn't read it as a kid. I remember hearing Rand Paul talk about reading it and weeping when he read it the second time as an adult....haha...


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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah. I was told, face to face, by an nsa snoop that they can turn our phones on when we turn them off to listen to us. I actually appreciated that from him. Living in surreal times...
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 8 months ago
    Am enjoying this book. The parallels to today are so blaringly obvious and firm that it is almost immaterial to the story for me...haha. I'm enjoying the writing style, the love story.
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  • Posted by awebb 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    His early stuff was good (Fight Club, Survivor, Haunted, etc.) but his newer stuff, in my opinion, is very strange.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago
    I like how in 1984 there is so much key information put out that's simply fabrication. One that jumped out at me was about the state-run Lotto. He describes three Proles really having a heated argument about which numbers are more likely to be winners...how their minds, though seemingly feeble, could grasp the most useless facets of the Lotto. And...he states that many of the declared winners are people who don't even exist. That instantly got me wondering about our Lotto...
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 8 years, 9 months ago
    Hello Abaco,
    It is an essential read, IMHO.
    'War is peace.
    Freedom is Slavery.
    Ignorance is strength." 1984, Orwell

    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sure. And, the Samsung brand of tv, from what I understand, is designed specifically to listen to you (and is probably used for that).
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Propaganda is Truth; Wealth is Theft; Government Control is Freedom; Aggression is Liberation.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The monitoring TV exists. They are computers with cameras that can be turned on remotely, and that can be hacked into without your knowledge. They exist as smartphones that make you traceable anywhere on earth.
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 8 years, 9 months ago
    I did a search using DuckDuckGo (instead of Google) but now ads pop up for apartments in Dublin on many of the pages I visit. DuckDuckGo says it doesn't track you - if only that were true. I wonder what would happen if I did a search for something dangerous?
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago
    About 1/3 through the book now. I got some good reading time in yesterday by the pool.

    I think we are well into the dystopian setting described in the book. I fully expect some people I know to be "vaporized" sooner than later... I think America is getting very close to that.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But, by then, Fahrenheit 451 will have long kicked in, and old weathered and lost copies of all of these tomes - 1984, Animal Farm, Atlas Shrugged, Fahrenheit 451 will be rare underground contraband.
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, 2+2=4, A=A, however, that is for 100% objective conversations, where there is, based on proof, total A=A.

    When the conversation is supported by "subjective" information which is often the case. that is when I refer them to Room 101.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago
    I'm getting old. just turned 50...I clearly remember aspects of the story buy can't recall if I read it. I now I owned it, I remember the cover. What a drag it is getting old.
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  • Posted by EdGoldstein 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They will cleanse it like they have Mark Twain. Worse, it will be honored as foreseeing the great future they have built.
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  • Posted by EdGoldstein 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reeducation camps already are in full swing. We call them universities and at work there are diversity classes along with the rest of the corporate effort to protect themselves from the lawyers.
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 9 months ago
    I just finished reading it a month or so ago for the first time. Many similarities to today's surveillance state. Enjoy, I think, or weep like Paul, maybe.

    I wonder what will people will say if they read it 100 years from now? On our present course, it might be a reality.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
    When Orwell, in 1948 turned the last two digits around and created 1984, it was a look down the road at what socialism not only can become, but must become Socialism can only lead to a lack of freedom and as a result, a lack of everything else. In order to maintain such a society, it becomes inevitable that the world becomes what he presents. He used the Soviet model, not realizing that a more powerful form of collectivism was about to arise, based on a government in the form of a religion, utilizing the poor, uneducated, and psychologically sick of the world. The illustration of how this happens is put forth clearly in Orwell's other masterpiece, "Animal Farm." It illustrates the change from a just revolution into an unjust governance.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    DrZ.. I'm borrowing your words, sending them to my sister and couple of others who have not read 1984 to encourage them to do so. WELL PUT!!
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 9 months ago
    We are living in a different form of the 1984 police state. Google, Facebook, Apple, and other silicon valley corporations are keeping tabs on everything you do, and sharing it with the NSA, so the government doesn't need the monitoring TV.

    The MSM changes history constantly, by ignoring news that shows progressive policy failures, and exaggerating any information that favors a big state solution. Negatives about the founders of our country are emphasized, while their character is assassinated.

    State reeducation camps are just a breath away, with calls to criminalize "climate change denial." If Clinton becomes President, and succeeds to pack the federal courts, expect to see a new version of the John Adams Sedition act passed into law, affirmed by the SCOTUS as constitutional. Criticism of the government or its officials will become a federal crime.

    2024, not so different from Orwell's 1984.
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