That "minor detail" has been conveniently glossed over.

And one very minor detail that seems to be missing from the "news" coverage - the killings were stopped by an armed citizen in Walmart who fired back and wounded one of the attackers.

I am always amazed at how extreme interpretation can be. Those who are anti-guns will construe this to their every advantage... It's like the difference (night and day) between watching the same topic on MSNBC and FOX news... Totally different perspectives.

I am concerned about all the noise the anti- second amendment side cries out in the name of all that is good and decent, etc. We need to defend our rights by speaking up and taking a stand whenever the occasion presents itself. But coming from the right side of the gun issue is somehow perceived as a "shoot em up bang, bang" type person with almost evil overtones... All I can say is that I will keep my gun legally or not. Period.
JC

I wouldn't doubt that for a second. If so, it would be a Casus Belli.

Yes, and swastika has been a popular symbol in India and China for millenia - are we to make any implications from that?...

Who claims to like the government? Those on the government dole, that's who.

This whole thing's a setup. Putting lovers of liberty together with oppressors.

Those two tried to infiltrate the Bundy protest. The crowd's own marshals showed them the door. But I wonder whether anyone suspected what I suspect they were: government operatives.

As I expected.

There exists no fact to base this argument upon. Repeating something one has heard without applying reason or logic to the idea is ignorant.

Las Vegas. Figures..Harry has a way of bringing out the best in everyone.

Yes.
The protagonists in the AS and The Fountainhead were not normal. Normal is fine, but it's over-rated.

This is my favorite thing about the US. It's far from perfect, but when someone says, "you're doing something abnormal or totally different", the average American has a more positive attitude on first hearing that than most people around the world. People are intelligent and free-thinking around the world, but the _first_ reaction to someone doing something abnormal is more positive in America.

I know it needs to become more so, but it's pretty good now compared to most other places.

But normal has been redefined such that we are no longer normal, and what traditionally had been considered bizarre is now the new normal. Lou Reed said "Take a walk on the wild side." I wonder what he would think were he still alive.

Normal people won't try to associate you with cold blooded murderers. It's only people who get paid to write about ideology for mass consumption.

You'd be a lobotomized sheep. Of course WE will recognize evil, we know what it is and what it sounds like, but when others DON'T recognize it and prove themselves stupid don't waste time on them, leave them alone. (AR said that :))

Who claims to like the gov't? Most people think the gov't is excessive except for a handful of programs they like: paying for grandma's nursing home, subsidized loans for college, ability to fight wars around the world for various reasons, an SBIR grant funding a new project at their business, a massive prison system, amazing research to search for life on Europa, feeding poor school children so they can focus on learning.

Almost _everyone_ says they oppose gov't. Sometimes they (usually politicians) do it sanctimoniously: "Am I a rare righteous person willing to stand up to gov't spending? [except for all the programs I benefit from]." The joke goes that we want to cut gov't, but not programs that affect the children, the elderly, or the military, i.e. almost all spending.

Nazism was socialist.

There should be a reaction every time false accusations are made. No need to shout or get hysterical. One of the most impressive things about Ayn Rand is how she calmly and intelligently answered stupid attack style questions. I think that technique is very effective.

A lot of people don't like the government. What a terrible headline. I guess it shows without question where their political beliefs are.

I had noticed this, too, and it's part of why I made the post. This is all too convenient for them to paint with a broad brush.

When will they actually get caught in the noose?

I just saw the headline on my local paper saying those murderers " did not like the government" and I thought seriously ...bravo....way to paint anyone who complains about the looters are now equated with cop shooters.

In most cases people like this turn out to be more aligned with left wing ideology. Jb is right about the left not letting an opportunity go to waste. Michelle Malkin has reported extensively on this. She has documented numerous cases where the right gets blamed but the facts later prove that the shooter(s) have no political affiliation or they are left wing.