You WILL NOT like this but read it anyway. The other side of the coin.

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At the collegiate level and probably starting in high school this is what the other side is preaching. After reading it i'll do a comment on why we have one or two huge advantages these kids don't and won't be able to use. A little insight in what the H what are they thinking and why? This one under Culture

PHILADELPHIA—Young Democrats appear to be part of the coalition championing that dictum from William Faulkner: “The past is never dead. It’s not even past.”

I expected the youth caucus meeting at the Democratic National Convention, which I attended Wednesday, to focus almost entirely on current liberal concerns such as student loans, jobs, LGBT issues, and climate change. (Given the near absolute lack of mentions of terrorism on the convention’s main stage, I wasn’t so naïve that I expected any talk about the Islamic State terrorists or national security.)

But this was no MSNBC event, and far from leaning forward, two of the three participants on a panel went on extended diatribes about the United States’ history to a room with enough empty chairs to satisfy an army of Clint Eastwoods.

Sitting about half a mile from Independence Hall, where the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were signed, I got a whirlwind course in Liberal History 101.

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“We understand that we have never had a fully participatory democracy,” said Catalina Velasquez. “We understand that democracy, the way it’s defined in the United States, has been about contracting, disenfranchising. The more we disenfranchise, the better. And we are tired of it.”

Velasquez is the director of Young People For, a group that declares on its website that it is “taking a stand for progressive values.” Earlier in the event, Velasquez got enthusiastic applause after boasts of being “undocumented and unafraid” and “transgender and unashamed.”

Nor was the earlier statement the sum of Velasquez’s criticisms about the United States.

“We are really looking introspectively about how this country came about,” Velasquez said. “This country’s built off the backs of native, indigenous people, the genocide of such. This country’s built off the backs of black people … this country is built on the backs of immigrant labor.”

Velasquez added:

And we are tired, and we are tired because history continues to repeat itself over and over again. We are not seeing the change and we are being told to wait. And we don’t want to wait. We’re ready and we’re coming.

Velasquez then proceeded to tick off how long it had taken different groups to be able to vote in the United States.

“And some of us who are undocumented, let’s not forget, are still fighting for suffrage rights.”
A protester flashes the peace sign to police officers across a barrier fence at the Democratic National Convention. (Photo: Christopher Occhicone/ZumaPress/Newscom)

A protester flashes the peace sign to police officers across a barrier fence at the Democratic National Convention. (Photo: Christopher Occhicone/Zuma Press/Newscom)

Curiously—or perhaps not curiously, given that Eleanor Roosevelt is still enough in the good graces of the left to be given an enthusiastic shoutout by Meryl Streep on the convention’s main stage—there was no mention of the Japanese being thrown into internment camps by Franklin Roosevelt.

At any rate, I’m under no illusion that the history of the United States is free from injustice, immorality, and bad decisions.

But what was striking about the account Velasquez gave was, by my memory, the complete absence of any mention of the strikingly great parts of our country’s history. (And of course, the view that somebody who came to the United States illegally should not only be entitled to live here, but also to vote.)

It was unmentioned how the U.S. championed freedom, how our Founding Fathers created a government system that sought both to avoid mob rule and to push citizens to truly govern themselves, to have a government of, by, and for the people, and to have a founding document that recognized the equality of men.

There was no discussion of how the United States had promoted freedom abroad, and had helped other nations with both financial resources and our soldiers’ lives. There was no consideration of how many immigrants had fled lands where opportunity was limited and found the United States to be a place where they and their children and their children’s children could truly live the American dream.

While Velasquez focused on the more distant past, another panelist offered a narrative (equally depressing) about the past few decades.

Nelini Stamp, who describes herself as an “organizer,” “agitator,” and “believer in community centered liberation” in her Twitter bio, detailed her views on past presidents:

Our parents saw [Ronald] Reagan, saw what happened, and then when … [Bill] Clinton gets elected, and everybody’s like ‘Oh, we’re here, this is amazing.’ And then we had [George W.] Bush. Eight years of Bush. And we went to war. We started to prioritize Washington [over] … Main Street. In 2008, we bailed out the banks instead of breaking them apart and they stole 60 percent of the wealth of African-American communities.

But don’t think Stamp’s dislike of the banks bailout means she has any empathy for or interest in exploring the views of the tea party:

A lot of folks thought … Obama gets elected, we kind of packed up. We were like ‘Oh, black president, yes, like I’m so happy.’ And then the tea party came along. And a lot of people thought we were this post-racial society and the tea party came along, and … white supremacy starts to become on the rise.

“If we don’t have a black liberation, black movement in this country … we won’t get anything accomplished,” Stamp added.

Nor was it just young Democrats who championed a narrative obsessed with America’s imperfections.

Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., who is 47, appeared at the event. Booker quoted “the late, great Langston Hughes,” a poet who flirted with communism at one point, to discuss America. Booker focused on these lines from Hughes’ 1935 poem “Let America Be America Again”:

O, let America be America again—

The land that never has been yet—

And yet must be—the land where every man is free.

The land that’s mine—the poor man’s, Indian’s, Negro’s, ME—

Who made America,

Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,

Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,

Must bring back our might dream again. …



O, yes,

I say it plain

America never was America to me,

And yet I swear this oath—

America will be!

“Let us swear that oath,” Booker concluded. “Let us stay strong in faith.”

Stamp also grounded her call to young adults in her historical perspective.

“We are the warriors and … the visionaries of the Great Society that people talked about in the past, of that New Deal that went unpromised for communities of color,” she said.

“So I think that the reason we’re going through this is because it’s just history leading up to this moment where we need to take it.”

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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 8 months ago
    Just more "you didn't make that" rubbish.
    African tribes enslaved others and still do.
    Latin governments in central and South America have enslaved and conquered and oppressed minorities for centuries. Europe has had numerous wars based on ethnic differences and millions have been died. Asian regimes have exterminated millions for political reasons.
    If oppression was the underlying primary reason for prosperity, then Africa, South America, China, Cambodia, and Russia would be the most advanced civilizations in the world.
    They are not.
    They did not (and do not) have a system of reward for production that America had at its core.
    That system encourages every person to use his talents to produce and to improve his place in the society in a free market.
    The methods proposed by these ignorant people will centralize more power in government and further destroy the free market and individual liberty that make technological advance and civilization possible.

    Should we stand by idly while barbarians loot the society our ancestors built using their own hands, backs, and minds?.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 8 months ago
    The only way that Democrats in any of their forms can make any sense is to either lie, or color the truth so that it's meaning is no longer the truth. Not that Republicans are so much better, but they are not nearly as proficient.
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 7 years, 8 months ago
    These idiots don't have any sense of true history because the educational system has failed them. They are told that the Republicans are the enemy and the Democrats are their saviors. They aren't told that southern Democrats were responsible for the Jim Crown laws or fought tooth and nail to keep the Civil Rights legislation from being passed. That the areas of this country where minorities lives are in the worst shape are governed by Democrats. I know it seems like I am knocking the Democrats, but I am just using the example of how ignorant our educational system has made our youth. They are spoonfed this bogus history to blind them to reality and produce more idiots to vote for bigger government intervention in our lives (and believe me the Republicans are just as complicit because a stupid constituency is an easily controlled one). So they have watered down the curriculum, moving away from classes that taught how to learn and find answers when they weren't readily available, for this pablum of touchy-feely self esteem building studies. And we just passing them forward up the chain until we end up being a country with an educational system that 17th out of 40 in performance (which is an aggregate of literacy and math scores) in industrialized countries and dropping.
    Because a thinking public is a dangerous public to the government. They can discern when they are being feed bull crap and can take measured steps to correct the grievances they have. As it is we have these idiots who believe if they walk in the street shouting that the government will just miraculously change its course, not realizing they are useful idiots to keep the status quo. I recently saw a BLM member who was asked what their end game was and were they planning on getting involved in running for office and trying to influence future legislation. And his answer was they planned on continuing to protest in the streets, but will not take a seat at the table, because Rev.Martin Luther King took a seat and look whats happened since and what happened to him. That is the SJW mindset.
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  • Posted by KnowledgeisaBurden 7 years, 8 months ago
    AND the poloticians continue to use "for the children' as a reason to tax more and vote for them, for if you disagree you hate children... what a psyop. When usa spends more on education than any other nation and we fall to 37th on having dumb kids.... Wanna make a demoncrap mad? tell the truth about them...
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  • Posted by Ben_C 7 years, 8 months ago
    Ah, the idealism of youth. Got to love it. Clearway they don't have a clue as to the difference between democracy and a republic. And yes, world history is not their forte. When Mom and Dad decide to cut off their credit cards then opps, what just happened? The "gutter punks" in New Orleans French Quarter live off their parents while they complain about capitalism. I know, I have talked with them. When asked "what happens when your parents cut you off?" the answer is federal assistance.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 8 months ago
    We have due to our history sinned and deserve a "power to the people" socialism run by a political elite who know what is best for us.
    And deserving nominees for our more than equal masters for life are . . .?
    I'm thinking of a couple of aging fossils beloved by youth.
    What irony.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago
    Reaction Number Two

    Keep what works and dump what doesn't work.

    Student Loan Payoffs. Expand the draft system into providing workers for all manner of government required programs not just military in nature. Education Assistance or GI Bill and a paycheck every month. Six year commiment two years active duty required. Use that to pay off the loans.

    Immigration Reform. Right now immigration stresses people with technical or advanced skills. But many bright young people have to stop their education at the high school level and cannot attend university and tech school preparation much less the advanced studies program. For those that qualify Bracero Plus program with tuition assistance. and while we're at it starting with English language training . Mom and Dad work for Tyson's the next generation gets a boost and we gain good citizens. Not moochers. just make sure Tyson's is paying proper wages and benefits.

    Reaction two goes on looking at practical and elegant solutions. Elegant means solves more than one problem with the same solution.

    At the same time at age 18 the draft sign up age add this to the card. "I am unwilling to accept the responsibilities of the social contract of citizenship offered. and refuse any and all rights and privileges pertaining unless I pay for them myself. I understand if i reman in the countrry I will be stateless, required to support myself without public assistance. and pay taxes including the costs of any programs available in full. My responsible sponsor is (fill in the blank) Signature of same accepting that responsibility is on the reverse side." Something along those lines.

    The rest is similar - practical not pragmatic - but the bottom line is refuse responsibiliteis the attendant rights are denied.

    I am not necessarily for or against any of these reactions there are of course others. The foregoing is meant to offer some solutions but I'm not sure a real problem exists. except as these situations will be used by the left wing extremists represented by Hillary and Sanders no matter if elected or not. Like Gore Hillary will have an Inconvenient Truth movie and continue to make money giving speeches and consulting. I suspect that they will be far more pragmatic and far less practical as ability to bilk the public lessens. but if elected they will also increase. into more unfunded entitlement programs. Far from the lighter weight issues presented here some are much more serious. Hillary or Trump they bear thinking about.
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    • Posted by LibertyBelle 7 years, 8 months ago
      Best to get rid of the welfare state and bring in
      laissez-faire capitalism. Not to turn young people
      into serfs of the State. And I DO mean abolish
      public education (except for legitmate functions of government, such as police academy, and military technical courses).
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago
    What advantage do we have that they don't. Obviously their version is based fact but along the road leaves out a lot and gets a bit twisted. i got news for iyou SO DID OURS.

    A lot of what i learned in grade and high school was half BS have distortion and all manner of propaganda.

    But our little non-conservative group with no political party ties has serious researchers and authors. A number of book are available inexpensively to make corrections in history and from that we learn how to rethink the present and the future.

    Second is objectivism. Facts and testing and retesting required beginning with the use of our natural consciouos awareness of the world around us and ourselves and ending with developinng a personal set of morals, valuesa and standards that work. Number one Be Honest to yourself.

    We have other advantages learning not to be caught in any size collective and too demand value given and value received in any social contract of whatever length.

    These youong people have George Lakoff and George Soros. so what they preached and what you read is carefully stated from metaphor to action required with no real deviation and absolutely no thinking or reasoning much less testing allowed.

    We saw how easily they were manipulated over the last six months. Safe Spots and Violence mixed interchangeably? Where did that come from.

    Something to think about

    Lest we remain in our own cloistered Halls of Ivy and find out one day, having left out a whole group of people, like academia - it's the poison variety
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago
      I should address something else. The two interviewed are in universities. Someone paid for that and is paying for that. Either they come from privileged backgrounds and get their grades by extra credit at these dog and pony shows or their education is paid for by low interest student loans for which men had to sign up as volunteers for the military conscription system and which women get as a free ride. Who is paying for that - the working class taxpayers of the country.

      So....Reaction Number One.

      Now they want this crushing debt forgiven and wiped off the books, another free ride. What do they offer in exchange? 'nothing. Ask for their major area of studies it's too often sociology or one of it's more useless spinoffs. Women's studies being one of them. Is there a men's study program? No. That would be sexist. BS Equal is equal Take half the money and establish a fair deal program.

      I'm all for women having to pull their fair share of the load. Let them pay back their own debt in one of two ways. Graduate get a job and make payments. If not the military has a payback program called the 'GI Bill. Better yet establish a draft for other government service programs. Working inner city programs. Assisting teachers at inner city schools or reservation schools for that matter. Medical research programs some one has to test the new medicines. Doesn't take much imagination to find a need and fill it.

      No free rides, equality for all no exceptions and no citizens rights which they don't support and citizens resposibilities which they aren't capable of fulfilling. Unitil then no voting thats a right and a responsibility of full citizenship. Not for moochers.

      With the military cut in half Uncle Sam and Auntie Samantha will be needing new troops for their next set of wars. Who better but those who sucked at the public trough riipping off the working classes to gain their privileged status? An unintended consequence of the social contract you accepted when you took that loan money and when you voted? Tough. There are other generations coming along that need it repaid so they too can mooch a social promotion diploma . And in that mix some real live actual university level material that would be a good investment for the cash strapped working class taxpayers of the country.

      But no they will want touchy feely awareness program jobs as community organizers, debts forgiven, food stamps, welfare, tax breaks, and exemptions from military service. Better to give that money to hardworking worthy immigrants that will be responsible citizens an let them have something they previously had to earn at the pick and shovel level - an education. See how many choose sociology and how many choose science or technical skills.

      The resulting GI Bill and their pay check will clear that debt with ease. The mechanism is called garnishing. first you mooch then your garnish. Then you write a book about the injustice of the country, become a professor and learn to debate with four letter words.er

      Remember that 'girl' from last fall. The illiterate spokesperSON who wanted all education paid for and free?

      End of Reaction Number One.

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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 7 years, 8 months ago
    Well, what do you expect from a Democratic con-
    vention?--More of the same "liberal" B.S. More of
    the same talk about "democracy"(?)--This country is
    not, and never was supposed to be, a democracy.
    This country is a republic.--A democracy is mob
    rule. Ayn Rand remarked about people's follow-
    ing and/or preaching the policy that "you may
    do whatever you please to your neighbor, provid-
    ed your gang is bigger than his."--And, since
    that is the way the Democratic Party has con-
    ducted itself a large part of the time, what is
    surprising about it?--
    --However, it would have been nice if the voters
    in the Republican primaries had nominated a
    gentleman, or a least (not to be extremely fas-
    tidious on the point) somebody resembling one.
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  • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 7 years, 8 months ago
    I am the bet choice. Third party or other wise. These are not the best reasons why you should vote for me but just a list of many. Vote veteran someone that puts America B4 any party, we come from all backgrounds. Divide and conquer is what they do. End double standard,DC politician on Obamacare,SS Please don't waste my time by talking about the criminal or the billionaire because both of them have NO idea what it is like to be one of us. mrpresident2016.com
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 7 years, 8 months ago
    They spin it their way and we spin it ours. I wonder if there is even a 'true' history as the writers can't help but see it through their own eyes?
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago
      Best I've found and he makes the attempt is...America's Forgotten History by Mark Ledbetter in three volumes. Corrections Four Volumes. Available on Kindle or for reading on your PC and other formats.
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