Why affordable housing isn't affordable

Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 9 months ago to Business
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Bloomberg is notorious for pretending government is the solution rather than the problem and housing is no exception. The problem of not enough cheap housing stems from several regulations and regulatory climates - not from income levels. It used to be that on the US Census records, many were listed as "Boarders" - ie people who stayed in someone else's home and paid a small fee to have their meals provided and laundry done. Government did away with this source of cheap housing by mandating hospitality permits for such activities at the behest of the hotel industry - who they then began to hit with large fees for water and energy consumption!

Next you have zoning boards, who decide whether or not a particular property can house a residential, industrial, or commercial entity. And they pay property taxes based on their zoning, incentivizing government to push people into the higher-tax commercial and industrial areas.

What other ways can you think of that contribute to the lack of affordable housing?
SOURCE URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-26/why-it-s-so-hard-to-build-affordable-housing-it-s-not-affordable?cmpid=BBD072616_BIZ


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  • Posted by bassboat 7 years, 9 months ago
    I'm from the camp that believes that if I want to have a boarder in my house then it is my decision. A man's property should be his decision to do what he wants with it. If I wanted to build a casino in any town in America that should be my right but no, we have to ask permission from the government to do anything. When will we elect a government like we had during the 19th century? We've been massively screwed up since 1913.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 9 months ago
      "A man's property should be his decision to do what he wants with it. "
      This is the spirit of the Third Amendment.
      "When will we elect a government like we had during the 19th century?"
      We really don't want that. Many people's basic rights were not respected. We had out-and-out slavery for part of the century. No women could vote. We have big problems, but I don't want to go back to the old days.
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 9 months ago
        You might want to go see Dinesh D'Souza's "Hillary's America". The problem wasn't slavery, but lynching and racial disparity because of the Democrats.

        And I would absolutely go back to a government of the size and scope of 100 years ago...
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  • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 9 months ago
    The whole so-called profession of urban planning is a cartel run by existing property owners to keep the prices of real estate, and especially homes, as high as possible by creating an artificial shortage of it. These gains come at the expense of people who own unbuilt land, as well as of people trying to obtain homes. (And the taxpaying public, since park and open-space districts are part of the planning machine.)

    Like the problem of the federal government grabbing up most of the land in western states, I don't see very many legal methods to fight back against this menace. Most plans for "Gulch" style communities begin with buying up the land. But if legal title is not available, how do we create moral title, much less defend it? A brainstorming session on these questions might prove useful.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 9 months ago
    The gross building department regulations. Between inspections, and inspectors bent on being power hungry, its a mess.

    Two examples from building a house in Las Vegas:

    I was forced to put in three in-floor electrical outlets at $150 each including labor right in front of a picture window that I would never put furniture or electrical items in front of.

    I was forced to redo all the can light wiring that I installed because there was a loop of extra wire that I specifically put between the can itself and the last wire staple. The regulation said there could be no slack. I put the slack in there so that if there was a problem with the can light, I could more easily repair it.

    Useless regulation, resulting in rework and re-inspection.

    After living in the house for 4 years, an inspector decided that the septic tank system that THEY had approved earlier before it was installed- was TOO SMALL. It was 2000 gal capacity, and they wanted 2200 gal capacity. It cost me $20,000 to tear it up, have it sanitized and removed, and a new larger septic tank installed.

    You can bet i want to recoup my $20,000 when I sell the house.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 9 months ago
    The casual assumption in the article that government subsidies are a legitimate part of building is appalling. If the government has to subsidize it, it's not affordable, no matter how much it costs to rent -- the renter isn't really affording it.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 9 months ago
      Now why would you say that when Joe Biden said we can spend our way out of debt?
      And that was way back when that silly Tea Party got born..
      Now we have Crooked Cackles promising to extend the screaming like bloody hell wonderment successes of the Commander Of Grief's hope and change eight years.
      What's wrong with you? Don't you know we have to spend our way out of debt?
      Subsidizing moochers is a plan. And a jimmied dandy way to get votes also.

      http://www.usdebtclock.org/

      (Psst! +1)
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  • Posted by salta 7 years, 9 months ago
    In the UK, it is very difficult to obtain planning permission to build any house, unless you "know someone" on the planning council, or engage a lawyer who does. That is the main way housing supply is restricted, which keeps prices high.
    Most government programs to increase home ownership focus on helping people afford their expensive house, never on increasing supply so that prices come down. Drop in prices would cost too many votes.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 9 months ago
    I guess it has nothing to do with the banksters artificially driving up real estate prices to save their sorry looting asses from bankruptcy.
    No, that would never happen.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 9 months ago
    What is "affordable?"
    Some years ago, the government made purchasing houses very easy. People who should have bought $100K houses, bought $150K houses and after a few years of not being able to afford the payment, defaulted. In the past it was advised to keep a mortgage because the falling value of money would make the payments cheaper and falling interest rates would make it still more advantageous. But then, taxes, fees, HOA dues, insurance costs made that advice fallacious. The rising cost of everything and the stagnation of income has caused people to re-think the old American dream of the house, the car, 2.4 children and a dog.
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 7 years, 9 months ago
    Let's not forget the crummy dictatorial HOA's
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 9 months ago
      To a degree perhaps, but those aren't governmentally imposed.
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      • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 7 years, 9 months ago
        Here is the irony. Define Government.

        HOA's are a microcosm of Government, imposed by a small group of people authorized by the covenants of the deed authorized county government.

        So you have Federal, State, Local, which would be city, and county, and also the HOA's.

        gov·ern·ment
        ˈɡəvər(n)mənt/
        noun
        1.the governing body of a nation, state, or community.
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        • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 9 months ago
          I live in a sub-division with a do-nothing HOA. Personally I like it that way. I will gladly pay my $205 a year for them to continue to do nothing. It gets some people out of the house to meet and complain or pontificate and go home feeling better. Some go out for a snack afterwards. All I can say to my HOA in all sincerity is, keep up the bad work.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 9 months ago
    "Government did away with this source of cheap housing "
    Just as with other things the gov't did away with (drugs, sex trade, undocumented workers), people who want a room to rent can still find one.
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  • Posted by mminnick 7 years, 9 months ago
    I have a feeling that "affordable housing" wa on Rand's mind some of the time. One of her major protagonists (Howard Roark, "The Fountainhead) discusses the difficulty and problems associated with t. he states "I've always wanted to solve this problem" and multiple other comments with the book.
    It was difficult when she wrote the book and is even more difficult now with realestate prices being what they are, even after the bubble burst.
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