Ted Cruz does not endorse Trump Based on Principles

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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Aside from the issues and facts that Mark presents; what about the constitutional values we expect our presidents, our presidential candidates and our representatives to pledge unswerving dedication to...their fortunes, their most sacred honor or their lives to. Isn't that much more important than the "Party"?

I have to laugh even though it's a bit sicking, they booed when Cruz said: "Vote your conscience" "Vote for the candidate you trust and a candidate that will adhere to the constitution.
Kind of makes one think. By the way...that pledge?...was discarded March 29th by the Don himself...

We find ourselves here in these times because we haven't adhered to the constitution...have we not?



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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Personal insults are not arguments. Objectivism is not a “system for individual choices and beliefs to be validated or not validated,” it is a comprehensive philosophy, laid out in plain English by Ayn Rand. I will continue to keep my arguments on point without insulting you, and I don’t think it’s too much to ask that you do the same.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Since Cruz said vote for someone who will uphold the Constitution and the Trump idolizers complain that he did not endorse Trump, is that an admission that Trump doesn't care about the Constitution? If Trump had any sense he would have leaped on Cruz's speech as an endorsement.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wasn't Lincoln a Republican? Wasn't the KKK a Dem subgroup? Wasn't Ike a Republican? Didn't the Dem Party make an ex-Klan Grand Dragon their Senate leader? Didn't LBJ have to get GOP support to pass the Civil Rights Act? Didn't Nixon sign the Affirmative Action law? Didn't the Dems try to pass a law censoring free speech?
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 8 years, 9 months ago
    Cruz cares about Cruz. If he was really interested in principles, he would have stayed home. He cemented his rep as a jagoff.
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    Posted by jtrikakis 8 years, 9 months ago
    Cruz's wife works for Goldman Sachs. He needed a loan to further his campaign. He claims to be a christian, but uses the constitution as his bible. Hun looter?
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree, ed. The GOP has always been the party of corporate welfare and repression of liberty. They have lied for generations about it. Trump will not change anything except to greater centralize power and increase repression of individual liberty. He is a monarchist just as Hamilton was, except that Trump thinks only he is a worthy monarch.
    I think we are all sovereigns with power limited to our own lives and activities.
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree!

    IMHO, Trump showed his colors last night. Well written speech, sure, but a speech just the same. The underlying message I got is he is the person (dictator) to solve everyone's problems. He is the man of law and order. And he will rule with an iron fist. I never once heard anything about getting government out of people's way so the country can be fixed naturally, by Capitalism.

    Of course my impression may be wrong. We will see if he is elected.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    After what I saw/experienced of DTs actions and his people's actions, no thanks. I won't condone or help to promote that mentality. If this country's people are stupid enough to elect HC or DT, they deserve what they get.
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    Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    First of all, it was Cruz who attacked Trump's wife on his own, and first. Romney was right in there with him too. That wasnt cool. Trump reacted, although I would have advised him to let it slide and not say anything about Cruz's wife. We arent electing a wife as president.

    I would have felt better about Cruz if he simply said how important it is to stick to constitutional principles and that he hoped the republican party and its candidates would be successful in doing just that.
    That said, he should have said that the people have spoken and the choice in november was Hillary or Trump, and that although he has a tough time with Trump, voting for Hillary would NOT be a good thing to do. Therefore, he was voting for Trump this time and hoped that his constitutional influence would be taken seriously.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
    Anyone but Hillary.
    I was a Ted supporter, but what he did yesterday was politically stupid. He should have stayed home. The other option is to meet privately with Trump and come to an accommodation so he can endorse him. Perhaps a Trump apology could be made What he did will make it hard for him to return to the arena, and might even send him to the dustbin. Except for the religion part, he would have made a supportable candidate.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    wow. I must be missing something. I cant see how Hildebeast and Trump are in the slightest two sides of the same coin.
    Hildebeast is a terrible administrator- look at Benghazi and her email server, not to mention her time as Sec of State.
    Hildebeast wants to raise taxes everywhere to feed more socialist programs
    Hildebeast wants to keep Obamacare and make it stronger
    Hildebeast cant open her mouth without getting a reading from her political weathervane.
    Hildebeast cares more about her career's security than the country's security.

    What is it that you fear from Trump?
    Trump is an efficient administrator and will cut government waste.
    Trump raised really cool children- that speaks to his character a lot
    Trump has picked and hired the best employees he can find, and doesnt care if they are women or men.
    Trump tells it like he sees it without political correctness.
    Trump will use his negotiating skills to deal more effectively with foreign countries.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh! I see....you let someone attack you wife, calling her ugly and denigrating your politics calling him "Lying Ted", refuse to extend an olive branch and then act like a spoiled brat when you don't get an endorsement?

    From where I sit, leadership is knowing when to extend an olive branch instead of just taking it for granted Cruz would just jump on the bandwagon. If he did, I would have lost all respect for him. It is Trump who should have made the move (showing real leadership ability and wisdom) instead he sat on his hands and let to the folks who became his surrogates do the name calling.

    That convention showed me absolutely nothing, no real platform and no managing the Republican party to provide total support through the election and more importantly, through his presidency if he is elected.

    Without real committments from the Establishment, Trumps election means nothing! For what its worth!
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago
    I fear I see too much intuiting for Ayn Rand fans.
    Those people at the convention were not booing what Cruz said about the Constitution.
    They were booing Cruz not for endorsing Trump.
    That is what they wanted to hear.
    It is as simple as that.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    https://www.teapartycommunity.com

    I suggest signing up (free) and looking around. Everything there is sanction and approved by the moderators. Disgusting propaganda outlet. Deliberately spreading lies.
    After what I experienced, I will never support the Tea Party again.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You might see it that way however I believe it is now the country that is toast. Sometimes you have to be careful abut what you wish for because sometimes those wishes come true and then you end up living with the consequences.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, pick a side of the same fished out of the cesspool crap covered, rusty coin? Scarcely are the two choices different. I've never sat out, this may be the year.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I disagree! If you remember, Reagan did a similary gambit in 1976 with a 7 minute speech that set the stage for his successful win in 1980. Besides, the way I see it, who cares if he committed political suicide for speaking a simple Truth about voting one's conscience? If the public is going to hold that against him, then we as a nation are already lost.

    My guess is that regardless of what people think of him, he has actually created a benchmark showing a difference between politicians and statesmen and women. Politicians care about getting theirs in the future, statesmen don't.....
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And you can't read. Objectivism is largely a system for individual choices and beliefs to be validated or not validated. I reject a system that can't use understand plain English for starters Since it's in the preceding post I suggest you find a better reason than playing stupid. Rejected by the words out of your own keyboard.
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    Posted by lovemeemer 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am part of the "tea party community" in Ohio and I can tell you that most are NOT Trump supporters. For the media, leftists, and establishment Republicans to try to give "credit" to the Tea Party for Trump's nomination, or to paint him as some tea party candidate is absolutely absurd and disingenuous. We were doing our own internal polling statewide during the primary and Cruz was getting approx. 97% support from the people in our movement. I don't know how many responded to the surveys but to give you an idea, the email list is about 40,000 names long so even if 10% responded, it's a great sample size to use for the opinions of Tea Party members in Ohio. In my opinion, the minority of Tea Party members who support Trump do so out of a desire to kill the Republican Party, not because they think he actually stands for anything. But the vast majority of the Tea Party community in Ohio passionately supported Cruz in the primary and I would contend most of them refuse to vote for Trump in the general. Those who have said they'll vote for Trump in the general say it's because they think he'll nominate better Supreme Court candidates than Hillary, but still for them, they'll be holding their nose while they're doing it and they feel they're choosing between two evils. I can assure you that the vast majority of "say anything Alinsky loyalists to DT" do not belong to the Tea Party.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 8 years, 9 months ago
    It is amazing that this has become all about Trump and the party over that of the country. Since when is voting your conscience wrong? After limited watching of that "convention" I have come to the conclusion, the party is wrong and the candidate did not show the leadership ability that the job he is seeking requires.

    There is more to leadership than just bullying those who don't agree with you or leveraging the fact that if you pay someone, you can be a tyrant to get things done.

    The leadership that I am looking for (and didn't get) was to see a man wise enough to reach out to those with whom he had differences with (I.e., Cruz) and go the mile to make things right. Instead what we get from him and his strident followers is "we don't need your vote" and as with Cruz, giving him absolutely no reason to jump on board.

    I will always (at least from this date forward) vote my conscience and let the chips fall where they may! Without "real" leadership from the presidency, we are doomed no matter which clown wins. Congress will continue on its merry way ignoring the electorate and the Judiciary will continue legislating from the bench.

    Where is our Cicero???!!!
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