Ted Cruz does not endorse Trump Based on Principles

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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Aside from the issues and facts that Mark presents; what about the constitutional values we expect our presidents, our presidential candidates and our representatives to pledge unswerving dedication to...their fortunes, their most sacred honor or their lives to. Isn't that much more important than the "Party"?

I have to laugh even though it's a bit sicking, they booed when Cruz said: "Vote your conscience" "Vote for the candidate you trust and a candidate that will adhere to the constitution.
Kind of makes one think. By the way...that pledge?...was discarded March 29th by the Don himself...

We find ourselves here in these times because we haven't adhered to the constitution...have we not?



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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I already have. If he's there to line his pockets and not serve the people of this nation then he more danger than good. As I said, the only self interest any politician should have, particularly the POTUS, can be found in the quote "a rising tide raises all boats." Anything else in that capacity of leadership is wrong, its not governance its fleecing or, to benefit benefactors, cronyism.
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are right, in that same lexicon statement Ayn was very specific in stating not to confuse self-sacrifice, i.e. altruism with giving and charity.

    However, the objectivist principals, of rational self-interest would apply equally regardless of your role in society be it a businessman, cop or POTUS.

    You stated clearly and definitively POTUS and I quote you, "If he's elected and If he serves the people of this nation he will do good things, BUT if he has a choice between serving the nation or serving himself we're screwed."

    Now please explain to me how rational self-interest, and "selfishness" is a bad thing and would be detrimental to this country as leader? Or it POTUS the only one who is supposed to sacrifice himself to others...
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago
    Brother, hear what you want to hear. If you won't even acknowledge what I'm saying there's no point talking. AR never said giving to someone else of your own violation is bad and it doesn't fall into altruism.

    Curious, are you an alter ego for someone else here?
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ayn Rand Lexicon:

    Those who start by saying: “It is selfish to pursue your own wishes, you must sacrifice them to the wishes of others”—end up by saying: “It is selfish to uphold your convictions, you must sacrifice them to the convictions of others.”
    *******

    Voluntary or not...

    Next Trump is being selected by the People based on what he is saying. there is no wool being pulled over. Gary Johnson however by his VP pick is betraying what he claims are Libertarian principals.
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, love that cartoon. Sorry that it was so true. As a friend of mine said, "The only time that a Republican should reach across the aisle is to slap a Democrat silly."
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Again, you hear what you want to stump you point.

    VOLUNTARY

    That in no way says you must do or should do anything for anyone else. Voluntary is individual choice.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From what documentation, Freedom...I'll look it up; but I get a totally different picture from source material...saw a show with David Barton when he brought these letters, notes, excedera he has bought and collected.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Laughing...what they were talking about was an end to another "Grand Cycle" or a cosmic year. Supposedly our 12th....and hold on to your hat...begin our 13TH!
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm a Constitutional Conservative. Who said the POTUS was going there for handouts? I'm talking about doing his constitutionally mandated duties, not lining his own pockets.

    I suspect you understood this.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The only thing evil about altruism is if its not voluntary - taxes are not voluntary, neither is coercion (religious or social).
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't understand how there could only be Trump supports at the convention. Weren't these the same people that may have supported any of the 17 candidates? If not maybe the system is really rigged. Just saying.
    Personally I thought his message was very positive, just without an endorsement and I respect anyone who stand on their values.
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Didn't Ayn Rand call altruism EVIL? I do not recall her EVER saying selfishness is good but not for elected leaders.

    Isn't any self-sacrifice bad according to Ayn Rand.

    Seems to me rational self-interest should be a primary focus of an elected leader. ANYTHING they do should be beneficial to themselves, and by extension everyone else too.

    Rational Self-Interest does not imply ONLY for me, but if I benefit today, I am not harmed tomorrow.

    Bad policies harm the POTUS and his family just as much in the end. Seems to me based on some of your replies that you betray the objectivist principals that you hammer other people with.

    So Objectivist self-interest is only applicable to "some people?"
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Only those silly Mayans could count off three days without time?
    I still remember when they said earth was supposed to end. I caught tower duty at the prison
    and went home.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think the Laws AND especially the Law Makers should be Altruistic...made not in "SELF interest".
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was Cruz' choice to speak at the Convention in front of mostly Trump supporters. Everyone who heard his speech is free to render an opinion. Fivedollargold is of the opinion Cruz made an ass of himself. Just his opinion.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Re: “So despite the malignment and personal attacks, you feel Cruz should still endorse Trump.” No I don’t. As you said yourself earlier, “Support and endorse are two separate things.” He voluntarily signed a pledge to support Trump, reiterated that he would do so several days after the spat regarding his wife, and then very publicly reneged. Before he ever voluntarily signed the pledge, Cruz must have been aware that he might be handing Trump a blank check. If Cruz believed that Trump “has taken openly anti-Constitutional stances”, but signed the pledge anyway, was he doing so with fingers crossed behind his back? Once Cruz committed to a course of action, he was honor-bound to follow through. Cruz could have easily made a minimalist statement such as “I don’t like Donald Trump and I disagree with many of his policies, but I support him because he will make a better President than Hillary Clinton.” He chose to go back on his word instead.

    Re your point 3, “The Constitution specifically reserves ALL powers not specifically delegated to the Federal Government to the States.” Firstly, you left out the concluding phrase, “or to the people.” Secondly, the 14th Amendment supersedes the 10th, guarantees citizens equal protection of the laws, and applies to state and local governments. I would never support a “Constitutional” interpretation that allows state and local governments to make some citizens more “equal” than others. I saw too much of that growing up in Georgia in the 1950’s.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't deny that the entire system has been steeped in party-ism. But you're still focusing on it being a party system. The original Constitution was a-political. Too idealistic perhaps: it didn't ensconce political parties until the Twelfth Amendment which I still contend was a mistake of colossal proportions. Getting stuck with an Executive of all one Party began this whole snowball.

    Bush was pushed out of the running a long time ago. He was never in serious contention, even in his home state. Rubio had him beat even without Trump. And I would be very careful in citing Trump's popular support. Remember, Trump's Primary wins came in open-voting states where one could vote for a candidate regardless of one's own political affiliation. Trump will need those voters who crossed the aisle to pull the lever again for him in the Generals to have a chance. And remember that Republicans already start pretty much needing to run the table on Ohio, Florida, and several other swing states. That's a tall order - especially with all the evidence of vote-manipulation from Obama's win over Romney.
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