HOW TO LIVE FREE: A guide to becoming a tax exile

Posted by overmanwarrior 6 years, 5 months ago to Culture
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One of my son-in-laws worked very hard to become an American citizen. I still believe citizenship is a concept worth fighting for in spite of the obvious criminal takeover of the government by con artists and thieves. That is not an inflammatory statement, just a fact—the evidence is obvious. So I am torn by what I think is right and what might strategically make sense—which a close friend of mine has done—and is technically one of the freest people on earth. He is now an expatriate—otherwise known as a tax exile.

1. No more TSA, go around them at airports.

2. No hassle at Customs anywhere on Earth

3. No more Social Security (FICA) taxes

4. No more Income taxes

5. No more Public School Taxes

6. No Property Taxes (you decide if you want to pay for fire, ambulance)

7.No Traffic Tickets (unless you injure someone or drive super fast) They can still issue citations against you for public endangerment)

8. No zoning beyond ridiculous fire hazards etc.

9. No public officials may come on your property (some exceptions such as your house is on fire AND about to catch neighbors house on fire, then they can intercede.)

10. No prosecution or fine, or Incarceration for victimless crimes.

11. No child Protective Services or requirement for public schooling

12. No forced injections

13. No FEMA camp for you or your family

14. You can exchange your Equity in the United States Corporation as desired for the products, fixtures, “things” you need or would like to have instead of what the State thinks you should have.

15. You can live where you want, do what you want with your property so long as it doesn't harm others.

16. You can travel Freely.

17. You will have standing to remove and severely punish public officials or corporate officers if they do you harm. There are two different court systems one for free men and one for slaves (U. S. citizens)

The list goes on in that fashion extensively

It is the modern sense of going Gulch. But I have too much Henry Reardon in me for it. But others might not feel that way.

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  • Posted by $ ObjectiveAnalyst 6 years, 5 months ago
    Hello Overmanwarrior,
    A very interesting article and presentation. One thing: Regarding the 9/11 false flag comment in the video I have little difficulty imagining it being used as a pretense to start the Iraq war. However, if there is the implication that the details were somehow known to be imminent on that day by the Bush administration, or that somehow they had a hand in it with total disregard for the thousands of American victims I can't make that conspiratorial leap. Perhaps I was reading more into his words than intended. What do you think?
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    • Posted by 6 years, 5 months ago
      There are grounds for suspicion there for sure. However I doubt Bush knew. The behavior of so many after that event, and the debt since, shows that there is more to it. Things happened too fast and too predictably, from a conspiracy theory point of view. I think people like that guy in the video see that there is more, but they are left grabbing for straws in the dark, which come out sounding silly.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 6 years, 5 months ago
    Ooof. I went into something I thought would be an explanation of expatriation, and instead get a massive load of conspiracy stuff and gutter anti-Americanism? Look, I know America has become something considerably worse than what it once was, but I have no appetite for regurgitated leftwing America-hate, much less irrelevant conspiracy theories.

    The "How to Vanish" vid was informative, if superficial, but after roughly three minutes of that Ken O'Keefe's monologue on how much he hates America, how brilliant his San Diego college course "America The Racist" was, and how "Mossad had foreknowledge of the 9-11 attacks," etc., I had to bail in disgust.

    As for the 17 points in Overman's lead post, the first thing that springs immediately to mind is the phrase "If it sounds too good to be true..."

    The first question in leaving the US for good would that of finding a country that is: a.) less oppressive than America currently is, and b.) politically stable enough to avoid collapsing into a hell even worse. For instance, I've heard and read a lot in recent years about people retiring (expatriating) in places like Panama and Costa Rica. They're certainly benign-enough countries now, but given that each is surrounded by countries with far more malevolent elements and which are far larger and more politically (read: militarily) powerful, the decision is questionable if you're thinking long-term.

    Something on which I was hoping to get some clarification is the distinction between renouncing one's citizenship altogether vs. "relinquishing" citizenship as Tina Turner did last fall in Switzerland -

    It's apparently more than just a subtle difference in bureaucrat-ese, but I'm still not clear on it and the WP article doesn't explain it well either.

    I'm not a big fan of the Washington Post, but while I was looking at the story on Tina, I clicked another interesting article on the best and worst countries to expatriate:

    It's surprising that New Zealand is shown on that map as being toward the "worse" end, because a lot of Americans have moved there. I'm also wondering what the status is of the countries shown in grey. Maybe "Don't even think about it?"

    Art break: As a thoroughly opportunistic tangent, though I'm not a particularly-huge fan of Tina Turner, this vid of her duet with Eros ("the Elton John of Italy") is something every Objectivism-steeped individual should see, just for its sheer class. And it's got T-Lev on bass!
    [Eros: "That's ok Tina, I didn't need that ear anyway." LOL]

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  • Posted by illucio 6 years, 5 months ago
    Interesting statements, very interesting indeed. Yet still utopic, for that kind of revolution shall never happen. It must be gradually undertaken. For one, history has taught us that the possession of land, above all else, tends to produce a state that overlooks it. And if well played, the baron, king or lord will attain more riches and, therefore, more p´ower. Marx was too utopic, that´s why his theories can´t be applied. And free markets have been the way of the world since the beginning, and in it´s evolution the state had to be created. To depict state as statism is a flaw of character, ther is such a thing as a good state. If a public official works as a servant for all, his functions are not vile at all, but noble. A state of warranty is the right kind of state, but when it shifts and becomes an enforcer and a violator of liberty, then it has derrailed as function and need. And it´s not the system we choose, but the choices we make. Will is the key for a state to be positive or not. And, be it as it may, we all need the state, especially when it´s functions are positive and constructive for all.
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  • Posted by ronallensmith 6 years, 5 months ago
    Running can be tiresome. Of all the Human qualities we have in common, 'Courage' is the least common in us. The line of least resistance leads us to leave a place we don't like, while courage leads us to fight for its change.
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  • Posted by jpellone 6 years, 5 months ago
    I am proud to be American, I fought for America and I could not turn my back on America for what it is becoming. Instead I will do everything I can to get the America back that I love and fought for!!!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 5 months ago
    All of that is covered by my two favorite rules. All you need to live free is to obey the following:
    MYOB - Mind Your Own Business
    The right to say NO.
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  • Posted by H6163741 6 years, 5 months ago
    I really hope this is true, but it sounds like a scam (sorry, Overman...). I will never know because I couldn't access the main overman site w/o "upgrading my flash player"
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  • Posted by xthinker88 6 years, 5 months ago
    How can you go around TSA at airports? Everybody goes through TSA, regardless of citizenship. And traveling through some other countries it's even worse and more intrusive.

    How can you not be hassled by Customs? If you come to the US, you still have to go through Customs. And it's not easier if you're not a US citizen.

    What other country does not tax you?

    The list might go on in that fashion extensively but I'm not buying that much of it is accurate or realistic. If it sounds too good to be true ...
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    • Posted by 6 years, 5 months ago
      It does seem that way. Perspective is the key here. Like I said, I've known this guy a long time and he's giving a report from the other side. It's no scam.

      Let me present a story about this person to confirm it. Years ago to make a few extra bucks I bought up a bunch of tickets to a Bon Jovi concert. I gave a few of those tickets to this same friend who then sold them to a couple of guys that we knew who wanted desperatly to go to the concert. Well, a week or so before the big concert these two guys were in dispute with my friend. My friend decided that he didn't want to go to the concert and sit near those guys, so he broke into their apartment and stole the tickets back.

      We went to the concert and out of nowhere these guys attacked my friend and a big fight errupted. Apparently these guys bought tickets from a scalper and then found us at our seats. My friend came out on top of a pile and the other guys were thrown out without any disruption to the concert. Later that night those guys found me and told me how angry they were that my friend took their tickets. I asked them why they thought it was him--it could have been anybody. They said to me, "we knew it was him because he gave us our money back. Only your friend would break into somebody's apartment, steal concert tickets and leave behind more money than we paid for it."

      There isn't a dishonest cell in this guy's body. He is very, very eccentric, but extremely honest.
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      • Posted by Maphesdus 6 years, 5 months ago
        Well, leaving money behind when you steal something is still stealing. Once you sell something to someone, it becomes that person's property, and you no longer have any claim over it. Your friend was in the wrong.
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        • Posted by 6 years, 5 months ago
          Yes, but he has a clear understanding of value. He determined that the person he sold to was unworthy of the value he had for the evening. So while he did what he did, he made sure that the value was restored to original amounts--with a bit of interest on the effort. Not a bad trait for a hated rival.
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  • Posted by mspalding 6 years, 5 months ago
    How can you tell if this is real or whacky? There is a lot of whacky out there and reading the attached article and comments doesn't differentiate this material from some of the made up stuff on the Internets.
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  • Posted by DougJ 6 years, 5 months ago
    Assuming you comply with the forward tax rule I believe you can still visit the USA.
    Secondly, I believe you can still recieve your SS and Medicare.
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    Posted by Maphesdus 6 years, 5 months ago
    Oh god, the Sovereign Citizens movement? You know that crap isn't legally sanctioned, right?

    Now if you're talking about simply relinquishing your U.S. citizenship and emigrating to another country, that's something totally different. Everybody already knows about that, and it's really not hard to do if you really want to.
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