It really doesn't matter to us. In objectivism the thrid is apply your own morals and ethics. Not ours. The only that counts is you. No one to forgive you. No one to applaud. no one to absolve. Just you.

As for me guns are tools for several purposes. Self Defense, The need for food. And when you realize the best defense is a good offense for attacking - who ever provoked you. They tools of the weapons category first and uses like target shooting are to hone skills nothing more and nothing less. There is a false premise in your initial theory. See if you can find it. There is a premise in my statement as well. But given the 'nature' of weapons and that includes baseball bats it's lions, and tigers and people that think only certain lives matter. Oh my? What is the first thing you think of when you see a red tie? Nice target http://marker.It's a sign of stupidity. And a blue tie? The enemy. Either one in a group? Target rich environment.

That's my moral values at work not yours.

As Sylvester so eloquently stated. They drew first blood. That doesn't mean i ihave to draw blood. It does mean it's open season.

I had to take a later bus so what the hell....why not join in for a bit.