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Ex-IRS chiefs urge House to reject impeaching Koskinen

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago to Government
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This is a sign of where we are at. The moment the politicos get their act together to try to do something about the blatent corruption there, these weasels all ban together to come cry and moan about why no one should do anything with crap like: It will impact millions". Excuse me, but when an IRS commissioner ignores Congress and supenas, lets a criminal get off and retire and does not do anything to remedy it, then he should be impeached. For 8 of the corrupt creeps to ban together shows just how out of touch they all are in the wonderland. This should really make you angry...

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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All of those collectivist leaders deserved even worse than treating them as rabid dogs, but they all rose to power through collectivist ideology making sacrificing people a moral ideal. You should read or re-read Leonard Peikoff's The Ominous Parallels.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is true to a point. I do not see any moral impediments to what Maduro and company are doing, however, it just means they are either completely illiterate in moral, or unable to comprehend them, as many "leaders" have done. Mao killed hundreds of thousands of his people in the "revolution" yet the world was aghast at the Japanese treatment of Manchuria. I still believe there is a might makes right mentality at work here, and the suffering of the people means nothing to them. Hitler did the same thing, so did Stalin. To my mind that makes them no better than rabid dogs and deserving of treatment as such.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The mentality of taking to redistribute for power seeking isn't the root cause, it is based on and excused by the ethics of sacrifice and collectivism. Small scale corruption and greed in politics can't do that. The crooks are institutionalized because of the false principles.

    When the infamous bank robber Willy Sutton was asked why he robbed banks he said "because that is where the money is". He didn't excuse it on an alleged moral principle and everyone knew he was a crook.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, the root cause is the desire of others to take from everyone and distribute AS THEY see fit. Greed and corruption knows no bounds. That was why this was just a real sham.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, it used to be a tool to put people on trial for cries, now it is a showcase of sliminess and arrogance and used by both parties to generally make a mess..
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    IRS or Guamanians? ha ha ha All those island boys be big and huge. Samoans Tongans, don't deal in sixes smaller than XXXL
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    They would be the last people whose opinions would matter if I was on a REAL Jury in a REAL court with a REAL Judge. I'm more inclined to automtially include them as accessories before the act and by running their mouths after the fact of the act. If I had the power and some said here'a a list of people to strip of citizenship and they were all IRS the ink would be dried before you finished reading this sentence.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You wrote that the corruption nickursis described "only requires the repeal of the enabling amendment (# XVI)". That isn't true. The 16th amendment, along with its agency, is a consequence not a cause, and cannot be repealed without reforming the cultural cause, nor would the corruption go away without it.

    It isn't just "collectivist/statist influence", the fundamental premise of sacrifice to others as the basis of ethics must be repudiated on a cultural scale. Repealing the 16th amendment and criticizing bad "influences" is not enough and not possible without that. It is a very long process to uproot a widespread emotional clinging to false premises and requires rational understanding of the nature and purpose of ethics itself. Minor reforms that may be possible against something like IRS abuse are necessary but only buy time to reverse the downward spiral.
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  • Posted by ArtIficiarius 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My personal approach is to seek and correct causes rather than effects. The IRS, today, is principally an effect jointly consequent on the 16th amendment and the collectivist/statist influences. Both are necessary, absent either the net consequences are suffocated.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Go you one better. Voluntary tax.
    Wreck the federal bond ratings and the ability to fund the government ASAP.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 10 months ago
    Budget cuts for the IRS a problem? We can fix that. Flat tax, and eliminate the whole service!
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, it doesn't, nor is that currently possible. The statist corruption is ideological, it is not due to a bad Constitutional amendment which 'only' has to be repealed. The problems in this country must be addressed in terms of their cause, the philosophical corruption in basic ideas and premises which are being implemented -- and still endorsed by many conservatives, not by blaming particular laws, amendments, or people without regard for the intellectual cause.

    The 16th amendment allowing the income tax is based on sacrifice to the collective as a moral ideal. Without rejecting the false morality the income tax and the amendment will remain. Even if you could get rid of the 16th amendment, in this post-constitutional era driven by the premises of collectivism and statism, it would not stop the income and other massive taxes or the corruption.
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  • Posted by gerstj 8 years, 10 months ago
    What a disgusting show of unity of the ruling elite against the people. How dare action be taken against gross misconduct and defiance of Congress.
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