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  • Posted by mrdenis 3 years, 1 month ago
    We are now entering the bannana republic stage ....
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    • Posted by  $  allosaur 3 years, 1 month ago
      +1 for inspiring my dangerous dino imagination~
      The Dems should now make T-shirts of Shillary dressed up like Che while holding up Comey as a hand puppet bowing back to her.
      Maybe a cartoon balloon should rise from Comey's head containing the words, "legalese whimpers."
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      • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
        I think the old Dino has a lucrative t - shirt idea.
        I'll by 1 in xL.
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        • Posted by  $  allosaur 3 years, 1 month ago
          When I was a kid there was a T-shirt fad about crazy looking monsters driving hot rods and I created 3 more 4 such color drawings on my own white T-shirts. Guess I grew out of them and can't recall what became of them. Maybe the colors ran in the washing machine and my mother tossed them out. So much for my T-shirt cartoon experience.
          When I saw the collection of aliens and contraptions little Darth Vader had to race against in The Phantom Menace, I knew just where George Lucas got that from. Just take off the wheels and put jet or rocket engines on contraptions.
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          • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
            the Star Trek was a BMW logo disc with a twin opposed BMW engine mounted behind. Add in some Tie Fighteres labeled Hondal, Yamaha etc but none marked Harley. The phasers are shooting the tie fighter to bits and pieces. The caption reads For Every Star A Sun and a line says Harley? You can't shoot something out of space or sky that can't get off the ground.

            But my best T shirt is a plain white one and when someone asks say 'it's my stealth shirt.'
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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago
    If she was not a politician with pull she would have been prosecuted or she would have settled with a fine. Instead, now she "owes" someone in the justus department and if she is elected she will pay them off with a cabinet post.
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    • Posted by ewv 3 years, 1 month ago
      It's half that and half the expectation that she is already entitled as part of the system. The corruption is so routine among these people that they have lost track of who owes whom what for particular favors.
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  • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
    and number eight....so I'll ask the same question. When one is told repeatedly their are security issues and ignores the warning then gives instructions of how to circumvent security regulations and then accepts lots of money from foreign sources and George Soros doesn't one wonder just what she was selling?

    Maybe it will all come out in the Cllinton Foundation investigation and MAYBE that too wil be covered up.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
    The way that Comey presented the evidence made me think that he was going to recommend prosecution, until he didn’t. Makes me wonder if he was forced to not recommend prosecution.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago
      He just wasn't a stupid enough looter to suggest prosecuting someone with the pull of the Clintons (and who might become the next corrupt POTUS.) He could also recognize the advantage to himself if the new POTUS owed him a big favor.
      The fix is in, as gamblers say. There was no doubt of the outcome regardless of the evidence, just as there was no doubt that Oswald was a patsy, and Jack Ruby was the hitman hired to asure that there would never be any trial to uncover any doubt of Oswald's guilt.
      American government is a cesspool.
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      • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
        Just because LBJ was such a POS and a GI butchering war monger he is my favorite candidate for who really shot JFK.

        No factual objective reason other than he was a despicable excuse for a humanoid being.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago
    The BATF and the FBI have been burning innocent people to death without any prosecution for three decades. About time you realized the government is corrupt.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      We do seem to have a problem with Attorney General's That reminded me of Jackboot Janet Von Flamethrower Reno the baby burner. Now there was a poster child for left wing fascism. Let's see. a gun runner, and now an incompetent bought and paid for sock puppet.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 3 years, 1 month ago
    Government is corrupt down to its base in villages, towns, and cities with closed meetings and contradictory rules and regulations. As with the FBI chief, the laws are read by those who cannot or refuse to understand their contents. For example, in the small village where I live, the board members could not understand that when a law says that such and such AND other such and such must hold, both must hold. I pointed out that about 'and' but they said that they had found that the right side of the 'AND' was true and therefore they could proceed regardless of the left side. So now we, in a village of 1700, have an extra $23,000,000 debt which occurred after being debt free plus taking stimulus money with the requirement to repay adds extra to water bills for the unforeseeable future. Just on a smaller scale but just as corrupt as the big guy's government.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      Same thing happened for fed mandated water and sewer. Price 4 million. Which we didn't have. Then they said do government assisted using Davis Bacon Price went over ten million we ended up owing five million town of 2,000. I gave up and left the town and the state. Last I heard they were still in debt some 20 years later.
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      • Posted by lrshultis 3 years, 1 month ago
        We did introduce a required referendum for anything over a million dollars but people just voted for everything anyway with the idea that they never will have to repay it or will have have moved away before it was due. Most of the residents did not care about it or thought that the public good was important enough to put everyone into debt or maybe they just thought that the rich people on the lake shore would do most of the paying.
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    • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 years, 1 month ago
      Happening everyday in America, it seems like some kind of viral disease, "How corrupt can I get?". I am waiting for the "Take back America campaign" I guess it will have to start in the small towns and villages first. Problem is it is always an entrenched bastard who made money off lawyering or stocks who get into those jobs and bring their corruptness with them.
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  • Posted by beaumane 3 years, 1 month ago
    The day after the 4th of July, I removed the American flag from the front of my house. :-(
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    • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
      Hanging the flag upside down might be in order? (This means the country is in distress, not a show of disrespect)
      THE UNITED STATES FLAG CODE
      Title 4, Chapter 1
      § 8(a)The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
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      • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 years, 1 month ago
        Good idea, and keep it flying that way until the country falls (and it will if this goes on, it is becoming blatant to the point none of the criminals even bother to cover it up or even lie well. Nixon had better lying skills than this crowd.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 3 years, 1 month ago
    And if she becomes President they will find themselves in a serious moral dilemma with regard to following her orders.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago
      Who are "they",sco?
      Haven't seen any in government with "moral dilemma" in recent years. At least not since Vince Foster.
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      • Posted by scojohnson 3 years, 1 month ago
        The members of the armed forces.

        I served under Slick Willy, chasing stupid conflicts, not being allowed to carry a weapon, and merely acting as a human shield or UN target in a combat zone to sway media attention away from BJs under the resolute desk.
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        • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago
          Yes, they will. I almost posted such a comment myself. The current activities remind me of the events that arguably caused the military coup in Thailand a couple years ago. The military was very restrained in that action for a long time until they could no longer tolerate the political corruption and its effects on the well being of the people of Thailand.
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          • Posted by scojohnson 3 years, 1 month ago
            It's coming... wait until the "enemies lists" of 'terror watch list suspects' becomes an actionable target list by the military or federal law enforcement. We're being desensitized on private firearms ownership to the point that 45% of the population wants to storm-trooper through the homes of 55% and take their property in the name of 'peace and security'. That transpired into happening to be put on the 'enemies list' as justification to deprive someone of their constitutional rights - and it isn't much farther down the slope until being on that enemies list will get you rounded up for 'quarantine'.

            Unfortunately, the left spent their youth smoking dope and bitching about others not working hard enough to pay the taxes to make their welfare checks more sizable instead of learning about history and the frailty of freedom in the world. They have no idea what they are being useful idiots in complicity with.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 1 month ago
    It is a war out there, and its NOT against foreign invaders. It is freedom loving people vs the establishment in the USA. I resent every penny that government collects from me, as they just use it to control me and steal more from me.

    Hillary is my enemy, always has been. I have seen through her for a long time. Too bad the voters cant see it.

    To the Trump haters out there, your trashing of Trump will get you Hillary for at least 4 years. You threw away probably the last chance to slow down the advance of full on cronyism.
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  • Posted by rbroberg 3 years, 1 month ago
    Oh got to fear Hillary "the ends justify the means" Clinton. So if I am extremely careless about how I drive and people die, that is criminal. If an autocrat is extremely careless about emails and people die, that is a slap on the wrist. Too bad I can't sell insurance packages for email negligence. This would have made me a fortune.
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  • Posted by peterchunt 3 years, 1 month ago
    My take on this is that Comey was told that no matter what he found, the crown prosecutors would not convict (i.e. orders from Lynch). Too bad Comey decided to give in rather than putting in the hands of the DoJ so we could see politics in action.
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  • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 years, 1 month ago
    Perfect counterpoint to the issue where they arrested and convicted a black man of espionage for releasing information when the CIA had a case go bad in Iran:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/...

    Hillary is not guilty of anything, yet the black man who tried to save his fellow agents from getting caught because of Obamanation administration screw ups goes to jail. Where are all the protests?

    Hillary is a clear criminal, arrogant to the point of no law is not below her magnificence and the sheeple will still vote for it. Her presidency will not be legitimate
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  • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
    I am surprised the same threads of the nine or ten are still in use but the newest information isn't being discussed. One is about the FBI Director getting to meet with House of Representatives Committee by invitation and he agreed without the need for subpoena.

    The other concerned the impact on the other continuing FBI investigations.

    One bluntly stated no one is celebrating at Hillary High Five headquarters yet.

    Anothere postulated the Director wanted to be put in front of a committee. i just looked nothing new on those two four or five hour bits of news.
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  • Posted by Lysander 3 years, 1 month ago
    I have taught for thirty years that this system, the American constitutional system, is the closest thing to freedom for the individual created by Man! Now I have to say I was a lying sack of crap, a blind idealist, an ostrich with my head in the sand! Dumb ass!
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    • Posted by  $  Flootus5 3 years, 1 month ago
      I would say that you are still correct, though. We have just been deviating away from that system for far too long. It is like an accelerating asymptotic curve.

      But, it is deeper than that. We are living in some kind of an era with a plague of cognitive dissonance where words have lost their meaning. There is nothing that can be publicly anchored anymore. It is all smoke and mirrors and obfuscation.
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  • Posted by rainman0720 3 years, 1 month ago
    If she had been found not guilty and then someone (Guccifer? Snowden?) released an un-redacted email taken from Hildabeast's server, well, tough. Double Jeopardy and all that.

    But I wonder if the decision not to charge her could be reversed in that same scenario.

    And I wholeheartedly agree with the first comment I see posted: It is nauseating.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 3 years, 1 month ago
    Let's see. Bill Clinton appointed Loretta Lynch to a judgeship. Lynch works for Obama who already said months ago, that Hillary didn't do anything wrong. Comey works for Lynch. So everyone works for somebody else. A few weeks ago Hillary put a shot across the bow of Obama when she stated EVERYONE knew she was using an unsecured personal server. Then at least one email is found from Obama to Hillary to her personal server. So while I'm disappointed, I am not surprised at the results. We're dealing with lifelong career politicians, an American political aristocratic class. Many will fall on the sword for their sake. Yesterday we witnessed Comey fall on the sword. This is going to be an interesting foot note in history books.
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  • Posted by teritj 3 years, 1 month ago
    I don't understand why the "standard", is that of a "reasonable person"! The person that occupied the office of the Secretary of State and who wishes to become the President of the United States, should be held to a much higher level than that of just a reasonable person. They should be held to the standard of one who is very informed and aware of the letter of the law, its intent, and what content is or is not classified material, matters of national security, and the consequences for themselves and the security of our nation when breached, or when the door is left so wide open that the figurative red carpet was potentially rolled out to our enemies!
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      The standard is in the oath of office. 'To the best of my abilities.' These days that is a very very low and nose pinching step across stuff on the sidewalk by way of calling it a bar. Hillary would have absolutely no problem reaching that level if she was crawling like a worm.
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  • Posted by  $  WilliamShipley 3 years, 1 month ago
    I really, truly, dislike Hillary Clinton and think she would be a disaster for the country, pushing us farther toward socialism. Nevertheless, I found the analysis reasonable.

    It found that she and members of her staff probably broke the law, but not to such a degree that it would be likely to be prosecuted. The key issue was that while reckless, the emails were in the performance of her legitimate duties and not to deliberately reveal secret data . The FBI judgement was that such activity would probably not be typically prosecuted -- although they suggested that administrative sanctions would likely be imposed, which is moot now as she is no longer in the department.

    Since we know from books like "Three Felonies a Day" it is common for people to break laws and not be prosecuted, in fact it's a daily occurrence. While she will claim "vindication" it clearly documented the reckless lack of judgement that she was responsible for.

    Of course there was no analysis of why she did this, although the presumption is to keep her communication from legitimate inquiry. And, most importantly, there was no reference whatsoever to any analysis of impropriety with respect to the the Clinton Global Initiative and various donations and speaking fees that were paid by people seeking favorable treatment.

    This was just about classified document handling.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
      I disagree with your assessment 100%, Comey was playing word games with that press briefing. Comey said that no reasonable prosecute would prosecute this case, the case for mishandling classified documents with intent. How about prosecuting her for the gross negligence of handling classified documents? Setting up a server is intent through as well.

      So pleading stupidity is now in effective defense?

      I’m discussed with it all…
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      • Posted by  $  WilliamShipley 3 years, 1 month ago
        What he said was, in essence, that someone else who did the same thing would probably not be prosecuted, but would face administrative sanctions.

        Did it rise to the level of gross negligence? There was no evidence given that she was aware of how reckless it was and did it anyway. Proving gross negligence as opposed to ordinary negligence would be really hard -- hence the judgement that a reasonable prosecutor wouldn't bring the charge.
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        • Posted by  $  blarman 3 years, 1 month ago
          One does not have to be aware (or even demonstrate intent) on a negligence charge. And to say that she didn't know what she was doing is an outright lie. She was told that what she was doing was illegal and did it anyway. The non-recommendation is a complete cover for an entire litany of law-breaking which any other person would get thrown in jail for life for. The evidence is overwhelming that she broke at least 13 federal statutes and laws - many of which Comey himself outlined in the first 15 minutes of his own speech! To recommend against indictment and that this was just a lapse in judgement is a complete abrogation of justice.
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        • Posted by  $  Your_Name_Goes_Here 3 years, 1 month ago
          Regarding her staff's inability to send her a secure FAX, her response was “If they can’t, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.”

          That certainly feels like gross negligence to me!
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    • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago
      FBI Director Comey makes a point about Hillary not having intent of releasing state secrets and that is the reason she should not be prosecuted for this crime.
      However, intent is irrelevent in this crime.
      If Hillary had also had intent, she would be guilty of T R E A S O N instead of gross negligence. She is likely guilty of gross negligence and should be tried and, when found guilty, she should be imprisoned therfore.
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      • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
        Direct from my Police Academy Days. "A crime is the union of both the intent and the action." What he's saying is Yes she commited the action of a crime and yes she should have known better but she had no intent of giving away secrets which then begs the question of incompetence and stupidity. intientional or not. You are going to put that back in the most sensitive and dangerous job in the world?
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        • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago
          Intent is not required to be guilty of this particular crime. If she had shown intent, Hillary should be charged with TREASON. According to experts in the intelligence community, the secrets on Hillary's server were compromised by the enemy, assets were lost, and the United States was damaged by H Clinton's actions. Intent is not required to be tried and found guilty for this particular crime.
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          • Posted by term2 3 years, 1 month ago
            Not only did she get away with hiding what she was doing to prevent damage to her career, she will wind up as president of the country courtesy of the VERY stupid voters who will vote her in.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 1 month ago
      "Of course there was no analysis of why she did this, although the presumption is to keep her communication from legitimate inquiry. "
      Thank you. This is my thought exactly. I'm less concerned about whether secret information got out than if public information was wrongly kept secret.
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      • Posted by ewv 3 years, 1 month ago
        Both, and equally serious. Neither is new. The (first) Clinton administration was caught using private email addresses with phony names to avoid FOIA and discovery in law suits and the practice has routinely continued. Her widespread compromising of classified information, which she knew and ignored, is only a function of being in an agency that happens to deal with classified information. Many other agencies don't have that kind of information. But classified documents are often as much political as legitimate secrets, as agencies hide what they are doing from each other in political competition.
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        • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 1 month ago
          Yes. I didn't know about the first Clinton administration doing it, but I'm not surprised. It's my impression that most classified info is secret for political reasons of some sort or another.
          I love the way you wrote this succinctly.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      i guess the prosecution of the Navy Reservist at the same time using the exact opposite reasoning blew your theory to hell and gone .

      as for as the rest. That is still under investigation by the 2016 released email compromisaes were damaging enough.

      But for some nothing the wicked witch of the left does would ever be too much. Comes from having a worm level bar. Or from being paid.
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