A Constitutional Solution
A Constitutional Solution
Don’t like Wallbuilder Donny or Lying Hillary? There’s a way out. It’s called the Electoral College.
The Democrat Machine got its way and, Democrats are left standing at the altar, staring at a bride most of them don’t want, in spite of her gender.
The brick (and punch) throwers got their way and, Republicans are left standing at the altar, staring at a groom most of them don’t want, in spite of his vast knowledge and quiet eloquence.
If you’re less than thrilled about the choice you’re facing, there may still be time to avoid your vows. It depends on a seriously flawed third party which has fielded an accomplished and acceptable candidate who, even if he doesn’t receive many votes could, if he plays his cards right, stop both Donny and Hillary from winning.
What? They can both lose?
Yes, they can both lose. Our Constitution requires a Presidential candidate receive a majority of Electoral College votes; not a plurality, a majority. The same straightforward, established Republican Party rule that Trumpites refused to acknowledge or understand in the primary process. To get the Party nomination a candidate had to receive more than half the available votes. To become President, a candidate has to receive more than half the 539 available Electoral College votes.
If neither Donny, nor Hillary receive 270 Electoral College votes, they both lose.
Feeling flushed? Pulse quickening? Wondering if this can really happen?
It’s happened twice, once in 1800, when Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr got exactly the same number of Electoral College votes, allowing the House of Representatives to select Jefferson as the next President.
It happened again in 1824 when, because there were four candidates running for President, none received a majority of the Electoral College votes. The Twelfth Amendment limits the House’s choices to the three candidates who received the most popular votes, Andrew Jackson, John Quincy Adams and William Crawford. The Congress picked Adams, even though he’d received far fewer popular and Electoral College votes than had Jackson.
So, you see, it could happen, the House of Representatives, your Congressmen could pick someone besides Donny and Hillary, someone like Gary Johnson, Libertarian Party candidate and former governor of New Mexico...
…as long as neither Donny nor Hillary get 270 Electoral College votes. But, it will only happen if we make it happen. Here’s a possible scenario:
Sanders and Cruz between them took more than 60% of total primary votes cast in the following states: Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, Main, Utah and Wyoming. That’s a lot of votes for someone besides the two front runners and, if they could be convinced to do it again, vote for someone besides the two front runners, like Gary Johnson, that would be 26 Electoral College votes neither Wallbuilder Donny nor Lying Hillary would get. If they roughly split the remaining Electoral College votes, they both come up short of 270.
The House could then choose “Neither Of The Above”, ending our electoral nightmare and, giving us a caretaker President, Libertarian Gary Johnson who remains popular in his home state, New Mexico, where he’s thought to have done a very good job. Instead of the usual wild-eyed, bomb-throwing Libertarian, Johnson takes a much more practical, evolutionary approach and appears to have none of the character flaws belonging to the front runners.
Just a thought, Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Utah and Wyoming, you could save us. Just a thought.
Don’t like Wallbuilder Donny or Lying Hillary? There’s a way out. It’s called the Electoral College.
The Democrat Machine got its way and, Democrats are left standing at the altar, staring at a bride most of them don’t want, in spite of her gender.
The brick (and punch) throwers got their way and, Republicans are left standing at the altar, staring at a groom most of them don’t want, in spite of his vast knowledge and quiet eloquence.
If you’re less than thrilled about the choice you’re facing, there may still be time to avoid your vows. It depends on a seriously flawed third party which has fielded an accomplished and acceptable candidate who, even if he doesn’t receive many votes could, if he plays his cards right, stop both Donny and Hillary from winning.
What? They can both lose?
Yes, they can both lose. Our Constitution requires a Presidential candidate receive a majority of Electoral College votes; not a plurality, a majority. The same straightforward, established Republican Party rule that Trumpites refused to acknowledge or understand in the primary process. To get the Party nomination a candidate had to receive more than half the available votes. To become President, a candidate has to receive more than half the 539 available Electoral College votes.
If neither Donny, nor Hillary receive 270 Electoral College votes, they both lose.
Feeling flushed? Pulse quickening? Wondering if this can really happen?
It’s happened twice, once in 1800, when Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr got exactly the same number of Electoral College votes, allowing the House of Representatives to select Jefferson as the next President.
It happened again in 1824 when, because there were four candidates running for President, none received a majority of the Electoral College votes. The Twelfth Amendment limits the House’s choices to the three candidates who received the most popular votes, Andrew Jackson, John Quincy Adams and William Crawford. The Congress picked Adams, even though he’d received far fewer popular and Electoral College votes than had Jackson.
So, you see, it could happen, the House of Representatives, your Congressmen could pick someone besides Donny and Hillary, someone like Gary Johnson, Libertarian Party candidate and former governor of New Mexico...
…as long as neither Donny nor Hillary get 270 Electoral College votes. But, it will only happen if we make it happen. Here’s a possible scenario:
Sanders and Cruz between them took more than 60% of total primary votes cast in the following states: Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, Main, Utah and Wyoming. That’s a lot of votes for someone besides the two front runners and, if they could be convinced to do it again, vote for someone besides the two front runners, like Gary Johnson, that would be 26 Electoral College votes neither Wallbuilder Donny nor Lying Hillary would get. If they roughly split the remaining Electoral College votes, they both come up short of 270.
The House could then choose “Neither Of The Above”, ending our electoral nightmare and, giving us a caretaker President, Libertarian Gary Johnson who remains popular in his home state, New Mexico, where he’s thought to have done a very good job. Instead of the usual wild-eyed, bomb-throwing Libertarian, Johnson takes a much more practical, evolutionary approach and appears to have none of the character flaws belonging to the front runners.
Just a thought, Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Utah and Wyoming, you could save us. Just a thought.
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Sounds like getting a stool sample.
There are many other things at that link, and all the amendments necessary to fix the country, reviewed by 600 people. Something you should know about, if you can get off your sneering high horse.
We have the same goals but you have a major chip on your shoulder that will hinder any progress, if egos get in the way of fixing the country.
Oh and term limits for politicians are useless because the parties do not have term limits. Another warm body just replaces the cog in the Political Party wheel when a Politician's term ends. Read at that link what will actually work or your efforts will be wasted. Unless you are too close minded to bother. If that's the case go spin your wheels and we will get a new boss same as the old boss,even after you implement any amendment or change. You have to think out of the box that propaganda has put you in. Don't believe me, look for yourself www.TheSocietyProject.org
Where is FNA?
You're right, Hillary's got most of the big states but, most small states are Republican so, a coalition of Dems and Libertarians and defecting Reps might work. You just cheered me up.
I'm working with Coburn on the Convention of the States. We'll not get everything we want but, if we can get enough states on board to call a convention, we'll have a chance to get some of what we want. Term limits should be easy. The Fair Tax should pass. Those are two big improvements. After that, we keep pushing for whatever we can get.
BTW, I don't buy into your "funny". I think you honestly had no idea what you were talking about. :)
Guess what, the House consists of only Democrats and Republicans. They will Never Ever, ever, ever (So it gets through that thick ego of yours) vote for Gary Johnson. Get real.
Democrat and Republican is all you will ever get. Period. Until and if the corrupt system is fixed and Political parties eliminated. So instead of defending your fantasy how about reading the link I gave you, get educated to what is, and do something that actually might make your fantasy come true.
Your facts aren't material to this conversation. If neither candidate wins a majority of the Electoral College vote then the House of Representatives chooses the next President from the top 3 popular vote getters.
The 12th Amendment was the result of the election of 1800 and, in 1824 allowed Adams to become President even though he had fewer popular and Electoral College votes than Andrew Jackson.
The Senate has nothing to do with it so, Biden gets no vote. The new President is determined by majority vote of the 435 House members.
Should neither Hillary nor Donny get 270 Electoral College votes, 218 House members could vote for Gary Johnson.
Time for you to buy yourself a better history book or, read the Constitution again.
This is not the Arron Burr, Thomas Jefferson type of electoral college or election. Then there were multiple candidates from which the one who attained the most electoral votes became President and the next became Vice President and congress picked the winner in a tie race.There were also many less states.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-regis...
THERE WERE NO POLITICAL PARTIES until after that election. Aaron Burr, Traitor to our country organized the first one, contrary to the instructions and warnings of George Washington. Then Jefferson organized his own to combat the power of Burr's.
An amendment changed the way voting was carried out so that President and vice President would be chosen separately and then specifically so that both Potus and VIce Potus would be of one party .
That was the beginning of the end of the United States Constitution and yea the United States itself as the Parties seized control of the Federal government from the people.
Today, There are only two choices - Democrat or Republican. There are no other electors to any other party of any significance. One or the other of Democrat or Republican will get a majority and if tied Biden will vote Democrat.
That's it no soup for you.
Here is the ONLY way to fix this country. Control the government Not the people via the amendment process. www,TheSocietyProject.org If you read it all you will never be the same again.
I think you should write that story and post it. I wasn't following Johnson then so, I'd be interested to hear about it.
I hadn't actually thought of it as a novel or movie but, you're right. Once the reader or audience buys into the premise, they're in my world.
Mwahahahaaa! (evil laugh) My world!
As far as Trump, after going to several Trump events and watching and listening, I'm never Trump. I see him as very dangerous, more dangerous than Hillary so, I'd take Johnson for 4 years and work hard to help a Constitutionalist win the next election.
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