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What would they say?

Posted by mminnick 9 years, 11 months ago to Philosophy
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What would Hank Reardon, Howard Roark and John Galt say about the statement's {resident Oboma and others have made about the creation of businesses and their attempt to "Fundamentally change the United states"? In numerous places in The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged these gentlemen tell us exactly what they would say. What do you, the residents of Galt's Gulch, say?
I say no one has the right to anything I produce unless a fare exchange is offered and accepted . No one has the right to anything I produce for free unless I choose give it to them for free. I have the right to withdraw my offering at any time. I am the sole arbiter of my work, my "goods for sale".
What do you have to say?


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  • Posted by dae5555 9 years, 11 months ago
    Any sane person would agree with the statement, however there is a cost to live in civilized society .Now there's the rub no ones be able to set a fair price yet and what's the their definition of civilized.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    2008 the value of our money in and around that year took a 30% nose dive. Of every ten dollars we had labored to set aside for our pension days three disappeared. COLA did not reflect that particular change.

    the due and dunned notices are prepared as the next go round approaches. Someone must pay for the additional debt. No problem Great Rescsssion #2. Inflation, Devaluation and debt repudiation. Are we prepared to see another 30% of our life time labors disappear?

    Are you prepared to look your grandparents and parents in the eye and say 'sacrifices must be made for the greater good?'

    How about the third go round. It's inevitable. Will we hear GDP is such and such without be given the figures for NDP - again.

    Never mind after that The signs of imminent displeasure are unmistakable. Work slowdowns. to balance the cost of more wars. Nothing new there. But this time we'll borrow from the eastern Europeans. If they pretend to pay us we wil pretend to work.

    And COLA will still be listed as one per cent every other year and Michelle Antoinnette continues to borrow AF1 from her successor for a dinner date in Paris.

    All it takes is one missed inspection point. When you screw over your own protective echelon it's hard to remember they hold whose life in their hands.

    One day notices the only one exhibit is bright and shiny polished and serviced A relic from the French revolution.

    No one will care if the place gets a lot worse. Only that it changes it's present form..
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 11 months ago
    This sounds like yet another whine that we're being wrongly treated. Yes, that's so. What are we prepared to do? From the results of the sixty years since Rand wrote her major works, not much.

    If I somehow invent something as miraculous as Galt's engine, I'll be sure and look for ways to market it in the undocumented economy. Short of that about all I know how to do is prepare to survive and prosper in the collapse that I believe is coming.

    We face a problem that has been known for thousands of years: most people simply can't be persuaded to support revolution unless they are starving. America is probably too rich for real change to be possible. This is one reason I push the idea of new-country projects, or at least projects in some existing poor dictatorship. (Another reason is that revolution often goes wrong, and a place like that can't get a whole lot worse.)
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 11 months ago
    "The source of property rights is the law of causality. All property and all forms of wealth are produced by man’s mind and labor. As you cannot have effects without causes, so you cannot have wealth without its source: without intelligence. You cannot force intelligence to work: those who’re able to think, will not work under compulsion; those who will, won’t produce much more than the price of the whip needed to keep them enslaved. You cannot obtain the products of a mind except on the owner’s terms, by trade and by volitional consent. Any other policy of men toward man’s property is the policy of criminals, no matter what their numbers. Criminals are savages who play it short-range and starve when their prey runs out—just as you’re starving today, you who believed that crime could be “practical” if your government decreed that robbery was legal and resistance to robbery illegal." Galt’s Speech
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  • Posted by BradA 9 years, 11 months ago
    Words are meaningless to Obama and other ideologues. Our actions of denying their claim to what we produce is what each one of us must do.
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  • Posted by ccormsby76 9 years, 11 months ago
    I like the responses posted, but the comment in the original post, "I say no one has the right to anything I produce unless a fare exchange is offered and accepted " leaves open the issue of eliminating taxation completely. Assuming we want some government, we need to find some way to provide a modicum of funding. I think Ayn Rand once suggested a voluntary fee on contracts (the government only provides legal backing for contracts which have paid the fee -- e.g., 1%). I'm surprised that I rarely see this issue discussed. Has there been a discussion of this in the gulch that I missed?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 11 months ago
    I say, "By George, you've got it!"
    I have the right to say no, or yes, about anything I produce.
    However, it does get complicated when you have stockholders. In that case, be sure to carry a nice, healthy majority of stock in your own name, so that you are the final arbiter of your business. Keep it a closed corporation. If you don't, it's the same as being part of the government -- eeecchh.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 11 months ago
    "Get out of my face, socialist scumbag!" comes to mind.
    So does "Go to hell, commie cur."
    "I'm sorry, but you must mistake me for being a progressive pinhead just like you."
    "How would you like me to fundamentally change your face?"
    (Oops, I can see my little old dino carnosaur mind is once again becoming ferocious. So let's take my train-wreck of thought but one step further then).
    "Do you see this finger?"
    When he asks if that's your IQ, you show him "the horns" with your index and little fingers. Then you say, "No, it's two of these."
    That's when you poke him in the eyes and yell a high-pitched stooge "Woo! Woo! Woo!" as if your middle finger really is your IQ.
    I could follow that with pointing up and saying "Do you see that American bald eagle up there?" and when he looks up you kick him in the groin.
    But I'm not gonna do that. No, not me.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 11 months ago
    Who Is John Galt?

    What are you doing to support the government and it's programs today? Whatever it is stop.

    What are you doing to bring back Constitutional Republic form of government free and open elections? Keep up the good work.

    Currently any poll or opportunity to voice an opinion you run into push for Libertarians in the Debates. After all it IS supposed to be a democracy isn't it? What say you left wing socialists excuse me Democrats? You been pushing democratically elected for decades let's see a little of that democracy in action? Or are you chicken?

    Watch the cluster flock as that chicken comes home to roost.

    If you are for a democracy support it with three candidates three debaters. We need just a touch more proof of your idealism than two socialists and neither of them a master debater. Schreech versus Bluster. What kind of representative democracy is that?

    Or are you hiding something a little bit more shady.

    Come on just betwen us Chungs.

    Push your buttons in various places and get the poll numbers up to 15% and if not shame them - foreget that they have no shame they aren't really democrats their just socialist leftists doing their masters bidding.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 11 months ago
    I have no intention of leaving. If enough shrug in place, the system collapses without support.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It IS time to leave. If I was right out of college I would leave right away. There are other places to make ones fortune faster and better than the USA now.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago
    I just told the local business licensing hack to just come with their guns and steal the license fee which they just tripled- and dispense with all the forms and nonsense. Treat it like it is.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 11 months ago
    it is time to just leave!
    I do not believe things will get better soon or later!
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  • Posted by Enyway 9 years, 11 months ago
    Anyone not agreeing is an infidel. Not worth listening to and not worth saving.
    I don't know that there is anything more to be said.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 11 months ago
    That is America, that is Natural law, that's what our forefathers intended and it's rooted in the ways intended by the physical laws of the cosmos right down to each and every cell in our bodies. It is rational and reasoned...there is Nothing in nature that doesn't Earn it's way...nothing in Conscious Human Nature that is Taken without consequence nor Granted without choice.
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