Edward Snowden's Galt-like Interview

Posted by jneilschulman 9 years, 11 months ago to News
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The poltroons at Fox News -- excepting @Judgenap -- are betrayers of the Bill of Rights incapable of judging a patriot like Edward Snowden.

J. Neil Schulman @jneilschulman 3m
Watching Brian Williams' interview with Edward Snowden was like watching a real-life John Galt -- and John Kerry is Wesley Mouch.

J. Neil Schulman @jneilschulman 6m
Brian Williams' interview shows Edward Snowden more of a real patriot -- more guts, more considered humility -- than any Fox News poltroon.


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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Galt would never perpetrate a criminal act? What about Ragnar the Pirate? What abour Howard Roark blowing up a building because its architecture violated his intellectual property rights? What about Dagny Taggart shooting the soldier guarding John Galt? This is a discussion forum for those who actually read, understand, and appreciate the writings of Ayn Rand, isn't it?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What part of "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." is opaque to you? The NSA spy programs does none of that -- and the secret FISA court is part of the executive branch not the judiciary so it can't approve warrants in any event.

    So the "laws" thatr Edward Snowden admits to "violating" are repugnant to the Constituion, therefore void ab initio -- and the rest of your ranting accusation is apologies for despotism. Whatever you are you have never read Ayn Rand with comprehension.
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  • Posted by $ MAK 9 years, 11 months ago
    Hiraghm is correct - the traitors to the Crown were patriots of the American Revolution and absolutely understood the circumstances and consequences of what they were about - and stood in the door anyway. That's the gold standard and the very definition of courage of convictions and bravery in action. Snowden isn't even in the same universe. His activities - and those of the apologencia attempting to mask his traitorous actions after the fact - have been all about claiming uber-patriot status while seeking to avoid the consequences of his actions - that's cowardly and sniveling and a rank insult to true patriots who have given their all - to those who are as we go back and forth on this,and those who will in the future - as they will again and again - as we always ask them to do. Until he comes home to deal with the very enemy he has proclaimed he's nothing more than a ranting idelaogue, a common criminal as the thief that he is, and a traitor against the oath and the promises he made to this country - his country - our country..
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe we should consider, had the founders of this country faced the British court system they would likely all have been killed and we would still be under British rule.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 11 months ago
    Hello jneilschulman,
    I have some sympathy for Snowden. Imagine the dilemma he must have faced; what law should he abide by? The one some bureaucrats established or the highest law of the land, the Constitution? We need a better system for justice through our Supreme Court. Any law that so flagrantly violates the Constitution should exonerate anyone who violates it in favor of the Constitution. Sure he broke the law. Occasionally laws are found to be unconstitutional and therefore unlawful. Are they not? “The law is a ass.” Dickens. I believe, unfortunately at this time, with this administration, it is doubtful that Snowden could get a fair hearing. For crying out loud, the guy who put out the video that didn't cause the Benghazi attack is still in a halfway house serving out the remainder of his sentence... So far our government has not produced one example of someone being harmed by what he released, though it is clear that the rights of millions of Americans have been violated. The government breaks laws with impunity routinely, yet no one is held to account. Snowden points this out and some want his head. If the government can do what Snowden has shown, and you were in his place, what chance would you expect for justice?
    Is it Galt like? I don’t know. Perhaps it is more Ragnar like…

    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Storo 9 years, 11 months ago
    Snowden's actions must be put in context. If what he did is treason, then what did the left's lovable Daniel Ellsberg do when he disclosed the top secret Pentagon Papers during a time of war? Ellsberg got off that hook. All Snowden did was inform the American people of the clandestine and arguably illegal activities of their own government against them and against others including foreign leaders. I give him a hardy "Well done!!"
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Snowden committed treason when he ran. Even Billy Mitchell faced court-martial to correct a perceived error.

    Every soldier who fought under Washington, etc... yes! They were all traitors to the British crown. I don't see where Snowden is looking to start his own country, though. And the last time anyone tried seceding from *this* country, 600,000 men died.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If Edward Snowden committed treason then so did every man who fought the soldiers at Lexington and Concord, every signer of the Declaration of Independence, every participant in the Continental Congress, every soldier who fought under George Washington, anyone who worked with the government's enemy -- the French.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, it's not for the courts to decide. Marbury v Madison was a judicial coup d'etats against the right of the people to decide for themselves what laws are constitutional or otherwise abhorrent.to their liberties.
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  • Posted by Pharmed01 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    that's for the court's to decide and he could have handled this in a different way than walking out of NSA with classified documents.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unconstitutional acts, policies, and programs are void ab initio so there was no law for Edward Snowden to break. When the government commits crimes those who bring them to justice must operate outside of the broken system.
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  • Posted by jpellone 9 years, 11 months ago
    My take on Mr. Snowden is two fold; First, he DID steal Top Secret information using other peoples access which is treason, BUT, he could not in good conscience let the Government get away with spying on all Americans!!! I may have done the same thing... It's hard to say???

    President Bush should never have signed into law "The Patriot Act" especially since Obama has changed it to really tie the hands of the American people...
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  • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 11 months ago
    Edward Snowden strikes me in many respects as being a John Galt-like figure. He refused to let his work be used for potentially evil ends, so he quit. Though in a bit of a twist, he showed his work to the world as justification for his actions. With much the same ideological reaction as the original got for leaving the product of his work abandoned on a trash heap.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 11 months ago
    I liked Rand Paul's take on the matter.

    Should Edward Snowden be treated as a whistle-blower? I believe he should, as he was pointing out clearly illegal activity on the part of the US Government.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 11 months ago
    The NSA is trying to rebut Snowden's claims by saying they have only one e-mail from him, and that was three months after he reached out to The Guardian.

    The truth of the matter might not come out until we change the party that has the President. One could file a FOIA request, but they'll just shout "national security" and stop all process.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 11 months ago
    I thought one of the most interesting things in the interview was snowden's comment that the US has secretly ruled there is a difference between seize and search under the 4th Amendment vs just seize. This has been their whole argument. we're not listening we're just collecting. Because they are only doing one part of it, they say they are within the bounds of the 4th Amendment. clever and cocky-spying bastards
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