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Pelosi Claims Government Created the iPhone, Not Steve Jobs or Apple

Posted by $ Your_Name_Goes_Here 7 years, 11 months ago to Government
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To quote our Dear Leader, "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

And that sums up the mindset of those who want to control our lives. They know better. Or something.


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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Who are you thinking were fooled into this? Liberals want something for nothing. Conservatives and Libertarians pointed out the folly from the beginning. But throughout the entire process, we were being lied to by everyone from Sibelius and Gruber to Pelosi and Wasserman-Shultz to Obama himself. It wasn't parsed words, misunderstandings, or context. They were outright, bald-faced lies.

    Call Dems for what they are: liars and you'll make the first real step into reality. By continuing to persuade yourself that you can pull the lever for a Democrat, you only lie to yourself.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " that implementation of the ACA would force people off their family doctors and onto plans which were supported by the ACA"
    Force them like with a gun? This is precisely why I lobbied unsuccessfully against the plan. Purchases that used to individual decisions are now subject for public debate. If we can't get someone else to pay for what we want, it seems like being forced. Most (not all) of these people who can't afford their medical care would be better off without gov't involvement. When people say the gov't fooled them into thinking the law would create goods and services, it just blows my mind.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I expect Obama to make many statements in the next 6 months that will infuriate anyone who believes in liberty and is able to think... even more idiotic statements than usual. Martial law is his only lawful chance to stay in office, not that any part of his term in office was lawful.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 11 months ago
    As the Nation slides leftward, it is imperative for contemporary government officials to convince the ignorant masses that the government is the source of invention and improvement. It'll make nationalization of companies like Apple much easier to pull off. Of course, government officials like Pelosilly will then be in charge of how all that wealth gets spread - and will require massive compensation for their efforts, all for the greater good, of course.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 11 months ago
    This argument is "I'm standing on the shoulders of giants". It is not one bit different than saying what Apple did couldn't happen without the transistor, the radio or VOIP.
    Government investment is supportive, but generally not required. Almost no technology breakthroughs come from government investment.
    Someone really wants to argue that the government investment is affordable and owed? What is the specific value provided by the government over the development period divided by the corporate tax in $. Then compare the technology in the product divided by the development cost really paid. Not even same order of magnitude. Government contribution is 1) small, and 2) horribly inefficient.
    My response to this is that government is wasteful and unaccountable to anyone, and don't tell me the taxpayers. The taxpayers can not be expected to follow this monumental convoluted money trail individually.
    Pure, misleading, thieving, totalitarian evil to make such statements. Not one bit different than Lenin and Stalin.

    This is the kind of thing Trump and Johnson need to latch on to as the evil perpetrated by the Hildebeast, Pelosi and Warren. Evil, lying unaccountable. "Don't tell us about the wealthy corporations fleecing the workers. You are the "special people", distorting blind justice, and getting rich and powerful off the taxpayers. You are Lenin. You are Stalin."
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So you tell me what context I should take away from that. To anyone who has actually owned and operated a small business, these remarks are a slap in the face at a bare minimum. Small businesses in particular pay huge fees and taxes just to operate at all, and yet you have politicians like Obama who come in and say that it is only due to the benevolence of the government that the business is successful, implying that it isn't the hard work and dreams of the entrepreneur which matter at all, but rather the implacable hand of government which controls and owns the productive efforts. If you can not see the blind audacity and ego in such statements, it is no wonder you voted for such ilk.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BS. Obama was speaking specifically to criticisms and questions that implementation of the ACA would force people off their family doctors and onto plans which were supported by the ACA. This turned out to be 100% accurate AND was exactly what ACA author Jonathan Gruber bragged was the purpose of the ACA.

    Noone was expecting that the government would be successful. They were complaining about the President's complete and willful disregard for market forces.
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"
    That one blows my mind too. People say they truly interpreted his words to mean we could provide healthcare for millions of people, mostly one's ineligible for insurance because they're already sick or are at high risk, and it wouldn't cost anything. I'm pretty sure half of the indignation is false, and maybe half of the people really think gov't can't pass a law and make goods and services appear without work like magic. The foolishiness of it is mind-blowing.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Please explain to me what was taken out of context. Obama meant every word he said - devaluing the actual entrepreneurs and their contributions and attempting to attribute their advances to government bureaucracy. Next you'll be telling me that "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" was "taken out of context".

    I don't excuse politicians for a word they say in scripted remarks. Those speeches are written and re-written to match the rhetoric and beliefs of the candidates themselves. There is no such thing as a "poor choice of words". What really happens is the facade of politi-speak drops just long enough to see the actual candidate for all their delusion and intent. The lies are exposed for exactly what they are.
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  • Posted by blackswan 7 years, 11 months ago
    Given what they're saying, there should be an abundance of Iphones and other devices, because everyone had access to the same information and infrastructure that Steve Jobs did. Why is there only ONE Iphone, not hundreds or thousands?!? These schmucks can't connect the obvious dots. If others did it, why do we have recessions and depressions? Why are there only about 5 million patents? Why isn't everything just exploding? They can "explain away" the successful, but they can't do the same for the losers? Why's that?
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  • Posted by ChuckyBob 7 years, 11 months ago
    First off, I used to live in the People's Republic of California and got so sick and tired of Pelosi and her type that I left. That being said, every good lie needs to have an element of truth to make it believable. The integrated circuit development was motivated by the space program. So, since almost all electronics use I.C.s nowadays, there is an element of truth. However, I think she blows it out of proportion.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Surprised, honestly, that anyone on this forum would openly vote multiple times for a Progressive. Call me naive.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Surprised or just sarcastic?
    He did vote for the HisRoyalMuslim twice and today admitted to having planned to vote for Hillary (unless Johnson has polled in double digits.)
    ;^)
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  • Posted by BrettScott 7 years, 11 months ago
    To be fair, here's the entire quote:
    If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 11 months ago
    Pelosi is the one who said those never-to-be-forgotten words "You've got to vote for it before you can read it" or words to that effect. In any other profession would be dismissed a ditsy broad. Talk about a head full of mush. But I guess there's a lot of that in 'Frisco.
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