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Obama's reference to moochers

Posted by $ jbrenner 7 years, 11 months ago to Politics
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Obama said, “By telling hard-working middle-class families that the reason they are getting squeezed is because some moochers at the bottom of the income ladder, because of minorities and because of immigrants or because of employees or because of feminists, because of poor folks who aren’t willing to work, they have been able to promote policies and protect special interests and those at the very top of the economic pyramid. That’s just the truth. I hope you don’t mind me being blunt about this, but I have been listening to the stuff for a while. And I’m concerned when I watch the direction of our politics. We have been hearing this story for decades, tales about welfare queens, talking about the takers, talking about the 47 percent. It is the story that is broadcast every day on some cable news stations, on right wing radio. It is pumped into cars and bars and VFW halls all across America and right here in Elkhart. If you are hearing that story all the time, you start believing it. It is no wonder people think state government is the problem.”

I'm feeling just a bit tweaked right now.
My mother taught me that if I didn't have something nice to say, to not say anything. OK, I'll just grumble under my breath.


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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 7 years, 11 months ago
    That's why I never listen to his comments on the the statte of our economy and society. It seems that he is is trying to transform the US into a bizarre conglomerant landscape. That where we lose our selves and individuality.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 11 months ago
    He said "poor people unwilling to work"
    Where we are headed that will end.
    In the USSR there was no welfare system. the govt told you what your job was and where to live.
    your choices were do it or die.
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And to go completely off topic, has the irony occurred to anyone else that "MoveOn.org" was originally founded to get us all to forget Bill Clinton's sexual scandals? Well, based on this year so far, and personally I never did move on, and think it's very relevant today, (do we want an "Enabler-in-Chief" in the Oval Office?)...they're about the most failed "org" on the planet...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    However during the Carter years many veterans recall the shameful act of the VFW leadership treating. Carter like a somebody at the National Convention. As a former Life Member and former Commander of VFW Post 100 Margarita Panama Canal Zone I know not what are other members eventually did but I believe like me they resigned and joined the American Legion. Having never seen the VFW apologies to it's members and former members and veterans in general I have seen fit to turn my back on those who turned their back on me.

    They must have taken me seriously I mentioned if I saw my name as one of their members again I would next call an attorney. Given the social media exemption for claiming non existent members that may not work anymore.
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 7 years, 11 months ago
    Move along. The reality you see all around you isn't really happening. Just forget it, while WE bombard you with the real propaganda telling you "that story" over, and over, and over again..."it's not really happening"...
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've been offline for a couple of days, but apparently the VFW has responded forcefully and reasonably to what he said...basically calling out Vets morons...look in the mirror, sir...
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The more I have learned about the Clinktons, the more I have come to be horrified by them. Mostly because they keep getting away with their scurrilous activities.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The clintonias and the like, of the world, Are the great unwashed...as we've been discussing here...they have been trying to make Us in Their image...but they look down upon those that do reflect their own image...kinda just like the fallen idiots of the book of Enoch...(still think they're related)
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have been toying with or thinking about making minimum wage of some use though it is in any form a violation of supply and demand it does have a smoothing out effect but I'm not sure for whom unless it's setting union wages which apply only to a small minority.

    When raised to high people get laid off when too low they look elsewhere to work.
    When not enough workers available wage offers go up when too many they go down.

    But the idea or glimmer of one is tying minimum wage to welfare payouts as a percentage in such as way as to make work more profitable and make welfare more temporary. - using supply and demand as should be

    Now the start point is cost of living equals a living wage and begins at the bottom which of course is where the starter worker/employee begins. Living wage, family wage and retirement earning wages are the main bums strived for. Except the family now includes some unknowns against which no form of birth control can protect except physical surgery

    Start point.

    Minimum Wage = value of total welfare (not unemployment) times 1.5 plus unemployment, and unemployment medical, and taxes. Make it worth while to work.

    Value of Total welfare equals Cost of Life that which it takes to exist and includes all forms including job retraining or relocation.

    Cost of Life is that amount needed to exist and is also a Tax exemption under both income tax and end user consumption tax. The thought is government has no business taking what is needed to 'live.' Food, air, water, shelter, medical and education.

    Under both types of taxes the Right To Live exemption is right up on top and 100% none of this fourty percent of trickery. Per Adult Per child and per older child in school to age 23. Same as now.

    In the end user consumption tax system that single contribution paid at point of sale is automatically not charged one twelfth each month for any of the RTL listed items. Income tax system it's exempted automatically the reverse of with-holding.

    The minimum wage slash maximum welfare total may be adjusted locally by the State or County. NYC obviously costs more than Podunk, Flyover. Let NYC pay that extra bill but the RTL exemption minimum would not change.

    Run numbers through that in any direction one can come up with the answer to any of the missing parts. And yes i threw in some extras.

    One point five? Who knows? It might be two point five? or point seven five. The rule is enough to encourage, almost force people to go back to work and get off welfare.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I meant to infer that the mooch population was a trickle until Washington turned it into a flood.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your point is that there would be no moochers if they were not encouraged by their looter masters. Perhaps this is so for some moochers, but I do not agree that this is true for the majority of moochers. I may not have as positive a view of humanity as most in this forum. I think that there would be a significant number of moochers ready to accept the unearned, even if they didn't have the encouragement of their looter masters.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Bat-Head's teeth may be grinning but he's
    already moaning about how he's "really gonna
    miss Air Force One"....Counting the days...
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "encouraged to become moochers from moochers in government" pretty much covered that, I thought.
    By the way, I'm amused when elitists like Mrs. Clinton denigrate denizens of Home Depot or Wal-Mart. These are the very people, the mid-section of America that the candidates need in order to get elected, but whom they think are low-life, bible-thumping, gun-toting, slobbering defectives. If anyone would ask, I would pick any ten people at random in Wal-Mart over ten of the most feted politicians in Washington. And, I'd do better solving problems than the Washington Weasels.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe moochers on the street hardly make a dent but you failed to add the moochers in government, (laughing...you referenced them yourself)...that's one BIG dent...not likely that happened in the Home Depot or shopping mall parking lot.

    I suggest that we are almost out numbered by moochers in And out of government...
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I politely disagree. There is a problem with moochers. Without moochers, we wouldn't be saddled with President Zero, let alone the possibility of a President Sanders.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Moochers?? It takes one to know one and
    Mickey & Minnie are the biggest moochers ever. Counting the days....
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