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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 7 years, 10 months ago
    At our farm the occasional wanna-be worker is allowed to pass near a stall that contains horse material that needs to be shoveled. There is also a shovel and a bucket nearby.

    Anyone who does not, on his own initiative, pick up the shovel and get to work is not needed here.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 10 months ago
      Yes, horses and farms quickly seperate workers from political appointees. I have 7 and it is never time not to pick up something. Or lift bales. Or fill water. Or just hold and pet. But at least they will work for you when asked, and not tell you why you are mean.
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      • Posted by johnpe1 7 years, 10 months ago
        you're mean? . no, no, No! . surely not! -- j
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        • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 10 months ago
          No, but dumbocraps like to use that one.
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          • Posted by johnpe1 7 years, 10 months ago
            well, they tell any rational person that they are stupid
            and ignorant and a racist, so "mean" fits right in there! -- j
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            • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 10 months ago
              Well, put that way..yes, I have been accused of that several dozen times. Been sentenced to "Constructive Confrontation" class three times in 20 years. However, I have made some inroads in the "hard truth telling" skill in my work area....
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              • Posted by johnpe1 7 years, 10 months ago
                is that like anger management? . find common ground
                and move forward from there? -- j
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                • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 10 months ago
                  I guess sort of. Mainly it is a lot of feel good, be nice and allow them to win even if wrong. They also don't like truth much, even if you preface it with "In my experience" or such. Totally useless in manufacturing..
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                  • Posted by johnpe1 7 years, 10 months ago
                    charm school course. . I went to a few of those. . the
                    real need is for a truth course, as you say, where the
                    focus is on un-debatable truth as an anchor. . moving
                    forward from there might be possible. -- j
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                    • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 10 months ago
                      Yes, that is correct, did you see the article today about the girl who went bonkers on FB and posted about "fing N@@@ers"? She really needed the class. She was a millennial, and they tend to spontaneously combust in public when they do not get their way. While she may have had a kernel of something to discuss, she blew the whole thing, and her job, because of that.
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                      • Posted by johnpe1 7 years, 10 months ago
                        we sure have a lot of spoiled kids around this country. -- j
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                        • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 10 months ago
                          Yes, it is a sign of the impact of the "be nice" and "sensitive" methods of education and child rearing. As well as the whole "buy them off with stuff" parenting of the last 20 years. When they run into an issue, the only response they have is to scream, look at the Trump protestors, violent to others who do not subscribe to their world view, and willing to treat them as animals. A lot going on no one wants to notice or discuss for fear of "offending" someone.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 7 years, 10 months ago
    Just High School Seniors as a group host a large group of dumbwads and worse they are often on the honor role. Can't spell, can't write a sentence with a pen or a computer, can't do simple arithmetic. Useless for retail work without pictures to guide cash register entries. The thought of figuring out 7% sales tax on a 19.99 item leaves them baffled for months.

    Then there are the exceptions. New system is the four point plus students for 'xtra credit' which means they did their homework.

    the real cream of the crop GED at 15 or 16 and finish Bachelors at 20 Masters at 22 etc.

    I found a bumper sticker somewhere that says proud parent of a GED plus BS deg. by age 20. or words to that effect I think it was done as a mathematics formula.

    They are not millenials. They are Exceptionals.

    The millenials however do serve a useful function at Universities. As Frank Zappa said if you want to get laid.....
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 10 months ago
    Funny, but not funny.
    When I was in the retail business this wasn't a joke, it was factual. The worst were recent graduates from high school or college. Not having to hire youngsters is one of the perks of retirement.
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  • Posted by awebb 7 years, 10 months ago
    Funny.

    I've never hired anyone; however, before working for Atlas I would frequently go to networking events, etc. to try to find new clients. Multiple times there would be this point in the conversation where you realize the person you're trying to get business from is a raving liberal.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 10 months ago
    Hmm...didn't know liberals ever sought jobs outside of government or community organizing....You mean they actually look for Work?

    Haven't seen them around where I work.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 7 years, 10 months ago
      Unless you have a union doing it for you one must seek work and list two or three each week. at these job fairs they can get a large group of names enough to last two or three months without further effort. no one checks to see if it was accurate. That's why you see them at those functions.
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      • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 10 months ago
        Where I live, you don't even need to go to job fairs. I'm looking for a job right now. I started by creating accounts on monster.com and careerbuilder.com, and about 100 other web sites like them. From those I get maybe 50 e-mails a day, each containing several dozen "classified ads". By clicking the links in the ads I can apply on the web for about half the jobs that fit me, phone most of the rest, and visit two or three a day. It's summer, so I'm visiting places in the morning and phoning and web-surfing once it gets too hot to be walking around.

        The downside of this is that the employers themselves are so flooded with applicants that they filter most of them out, so you usually need to know someone to get the job. And I'm so flooded with ads that I run out of hours in the day before I've answered them all.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 10 months ago
      You do not work for a large semi conductor company HQ in Santa Clara. We have our share, and then there is a fairly large group of "can't figure out what they are but hope to not meet one again" who could be smart millennial with no common sense, and even less empathy and people skills.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 7 years, 10 months ago
    Considering 25% of families now have no one holding a job. and now you say by 2030, 75% of the workforce will be millennials - we are definitely in big trouble! A recent milleinnial hired at the local paper wrote a column recently, saying she never wanted to marry, would adopt random kids from different ehnic backgrounds, and ALWAYS wanted plenty of time from work to go out drinking, I would say this does not bode well for workplace productivity. All one has to do is visit the local McDs in the evening, to see where the youngest managers try to be buds with the employees, who end up throwing food at each other and and NOT cleaning up at night. It is a pig sty. I talked with an older worker on the morning shift today, and she said the millennials think they just have to show and and should be paid more, for not working. Everyplace has signs out for "Help Wanted", but no one wants to work. The year 2030 has another deadline, the year they hope UN Agenda 21/2030 will be all nicely implemented. Goodbye property rights, this group is not going to fight for what they never worked to have. It won't matter until mom and dad no longer have that wifi-equipped basement for them to fllop in. If only they had taught this generation some history, some English, some REASON!
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 10 months ago
    I agree the mindset is common. It may or may not be associated with Democrats. I don't know. I will say I have had consistently good results with millennials. They're full of youthful alacrity. I haven't seen this entitlement crap from my non-random sample of millennials I've worked with.
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 10 months ago
      Your experience seems inconsistent with that of many. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0o9...
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 10 months ago
        The experience of "kids these days..." goes back to ancient times.

        The one part of this that rings true is the use of the phone or computer during one-on-one conversations. I think they honestly think they're being efficient by handing some work issue by text in the little dead spots of time during a conversation. If I say, "let me think how we should handle it. I guess it comes down to one of two approaches..." they see that as valuable time they could have been answering texted question about whether it's okay that the mechanical drawing is a different revision from the electrical one. "Yes, Mech rev 3, PCB rev 2" they text, and figure they didn't miss anything and put that time while I was cogitating the options to good use. Maybe they're right, but there's some advantage to doing one thing at a time. Something might come to them while staring at the white board with me. If there's an urgent item and they feel like most of this meeting doesn't apply to then, they should IMHO leave, rather than handling other issues by phone and standing ready to answer if something concerning them should come up. OTOH I'm amazed at how many projects they can have going. Sometimes you have to stop them, though, and say "please stop everything, put all phones in the center of the table, and please focus on this one item."
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