Federal Court Has Finally Erased the Constitution
Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 11 months ago to Government
With the help of Psychiatry, Government has found a legal way to bypass the Constitution's guarantee of liberty without proof or cause.
"Under new statutes passed by the federal government these emergencies and dangers could potentially include any number of scenarios. Senator Rand Paul recently highlighted that there are laws on the books that categorize a number of different activities as having the potential for terrorism, including things like purchasing bulk ammunition. Last month, when a group of concerned citizens assembled at Bundy Ranch in Nevada to protest government overreach, Senator Harry Reid dubbed them “domestic terrorists.” Even paying with cash or complaining about chemicals in water can land an American on the terror watch list. Non-conformists who do not subscribe to the status quo can now be considered mentally insane according to psychiatrists’ Diagnostic and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders.
Law enforcement has an almost unlimited amount of circumstances they can cite to justify threats to one’s self or others, and thus, to ignore Constitutional requirements when serving at the behest of the local, state or federal government."
"Under new statutes passed by the federal government these emergencies and dangers could potentially include any number of scenarios. Senator Rand Paul recently highlighted that there are laws on the books that categorize a number of different activities as having the potential for terrorism, including things like purchasing bulk ammunition. Last month, when a group of concerned citizens assembled at Bundy Ranch in Nevada to protest government overreach, Senator Harry Reid dubbed them “domestic terrorists.” Even paying with cash or complaining about chemicals in water can land an American on the terror watch list. Non-conformists who do not subscribe to the status quo can now be considered mentally insane according to psychiatrists’ Diagnostic and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders.
Law enforcement has an almost unlimited amount of circumstances they can cite to justify threats to one’s self or others, and thus, to ignore Constitutional requirements when serving at the behest of the local, state or federal government."
I forwarded the link to this thread to some friends and that started a bit of a conversation about whether the shrink was operating out of bounds in terms of patient privacy, or, as was my guess, today's society is so hell-bent on making sure that Everyone is Perfectly Protected Against Any and all Dangers, that this is just a barometer reading on the unintended consequences.
Perfectly Safe and Protected seems to lead to Perfectly Controlled.... (cue allusions and references to Germany of about a hundred years ago or so...?)
The shrink in this case didn't seem to know what to do, other than call the cops and make the patients life more complicated. Needs to be retrained in active listening.
Most actual suicides do not announce their intentions, they just do it. The ones who announce their intentions, over and over again, seem to be seeking a rescuer and attention.
The physical tests were fine, but when we saw the psychological test questions, we tore them up and exited the facility as quickly as possible.
It was patently clear that just about anyone who'd been in any kind of personal therapy (psychotherapy) program and been marginally successful in it, would answer Yes to questions like "do you ever feel sad?"
As innocent as those questions appear on their face, the hazards associated with doctors and psychiatrists or psychologists interpreting those answers just scared us right out of there.
A person without 'self-awareness' might answer honestly and benefit from help and attention, but someone already with 'their foot firmly on that path' would see nothing but risk.
And this kind of crap is exactly what we were concerned about.
1984 +30... a coincidence? :)
"And then what happened...?"
Here's where I think the court got things wrong - the police then went to the apartment of this woman and when she let them in, they confiscated her weapons stating that the comments by the psychiatrist created exigent circumstances of her potential suicide. This even though she had called the psychiatrist after she arrived home (and before the cops arrived) to reassure the dr. that she wasn't going to commit suicide.
This is a situation where there seems to be a fine line. The cops only had the word of the psychiatrist as to the state of mind of this woman, and he said that she was suicidal. Did they have time to obtain a search warrant from a judge or was suicide imminent to a degree where the time to obtain such search warrant would be negligent? Hard to tell.
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” (Thomas Jefferson)
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … " Thomas Jefferson letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16: 45.
I would say that the events at the Bundy Ranch, regardless of the Bundy's disrespect of the BLM, is strongly supported with the intent of the founders of this nation.
As for Bundy being a moocher - his family had been grazing that land for 100 years and improving it at their own cost. He only stopped paying when the BLM arbitrarily decided to change the terms of the lease agreement and refused to give him grandfathered rights because they were under orders from Harry Reid to protect some "endangered" animal!
Because taking up arms to defend a moocher, and threatening government forces with weapons is just like complaining about fracking, or buying with cash.
IMO, this guy should have his license suspended.
The ITarasoffI decision mandates a therapist to report potential suicidal or homicidal behavior, if the victim can be identified, if a time frame can be estimated, and if the means to commit the deed are available.
The psychiatrist may have had reason to disbelieve the woman's statement that she was no longer suicidal. Or perhaps he consulted with a supervisor or his attorney before calling the police.
I once had a suicidal friend. She agreed to have me drive her to the hospital, where she created a major scene that required 5 people to hold her down on a gurney. She swore and cussed like a sailor, called me a B.... (for saving her life). The next morning, she convinced hospital staff that she was no longer suicidal, and she had to be released.
I always found that the most chilling example of collectivism.
Come on scotus I sure hope this is not the final say.
Shutter field v. City of Milwaukee I'll be sure to remember that gem. Thanks for posting!
Every
Single
Communist
State
People were put in mental hospitals for not conforming. Rejecting communism was considered de-facto proof of insanity.