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Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 7 months ago to Education
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This just might be why it's so difficult for us to find REAL MEN in this country (gulch excluded of course...I'm annoyed I had to just write that disclaimer)...and I'm that much for excited about home schooling my grandson.

I can attest to everything this lady says is true in elementary schools. :(



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  • Posted by johnpe1 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and the "lifestyle" is passed on from generation to
    generation -- among those who survive the gang
    environment. -- j
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  • Posted by johnpe1 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    for some strange reason, Mike, homo sapiens
    keeps on finding "reasons" to avoid letting
    capitalism take off like a rocket. now that we
    have "perfected" the industrial age and are
    working on the information age, you would think
    that we might offer the world a taste -- shrinking
    government and expanding charity, creating
    millions of work-from-home jobs, even
    subcontracting DoD work to Ragnar ... but, no,
    we must regulate, stifle, strangle the golden
    goose.

    I think that it's the raw desire for power over others. -- j
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  • Posted by Herb7734 11 years, 7 months ago
    My grandson was enrolled in a martial arts class. He was small for his age, but excelled in the class and burned off some of that energy. It was a big help in him overcoming self-esteem problems, brought on by the "system." He also went through the whole boy scout thing from cub scout to eagle scout, which furthered his independence and honed his leadership skills.
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  • Posted by thowellaz 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are talking about 2 men who hung out with people who excepted them for who they were. You are using definitions just like everyone else. What I am talking about is letting people be who they are. And yes I believe that genes have a lot to do with it. I wasn't tagging anyone I was talking about excepting people for who they are.
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  • Posted by Fountainhead24 11 years, 7 months ago
    Amazing! And eye opening! I remember (I'm 70 years old) when the main complaint about our school system was that girls were treated like second-class citizens. I'm glad that is no longer a problem but also that my grandson is home-schooled.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If being introverted is a problem, how do you explain Howard Roark or Steven Mallory? The definition of what is "boyish" or "girlish" is not necessarily genetically determined. (Some part of gender may be in the genes. Then we get people who chose to change their external sex to match their psychological gender.) Largely what boys and girls are allowed to do is cultural. Thus, the outliers are tagged and labeled as "tomboys" and "sissies" with the strong component of sexuality underlying that.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    See my comments to LetsShrug below. Girls have always done better than boys in schools for many reasons. One basic fact is that they mature earlier. Then, the male administrators wave that off as "girls _only_ mature earlier." But what does an IQ test measure, if not mental maturity?

    It is obvious by inspection that women in the previous centuries were cloistered against opportunity. Industrialism changed that. One of the complaints of Marx in the Manifesto is that capitalism endangered the traditional family by taking women out of the home. Karl Marx was a social conservative.

    Also, your claim about minorities extracting their pound of retribution does not apply to that specific minority in your allusion. Jews were limited in acceptance to Ivy League schools lest they dominate. So, they just went elsewhere. They were not alone. The Ivies were for WASPS. Hence, Georgetown and Notre Dame and Boston College were founded. In short, most minorities made their own way. Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem both from Smith College were among the many who attended women's colleges.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right, there is no structural way to do the wrong thing and make it come out right. The theory behind single parent child assistance is that if there is a man in the home, then he would be the bread-winner; and where, then, is the need for welfare? It is a conservative assumption - and I do not mean merely people who approve of Ted Cruz - but the baseline assumption in our society. That each partner would work half-time or that she would be the main income while he raised he kids does not fit the boxes on the forms.

    And speaking to that other definition of "conservative" what would be the reaction if welfare were paid to households where married men did not support their families?

    You raise the Rawlsian point that every society needs a "floor." But it is misplaced compassion. In a free market, so much would be free that poverty would be unknown. I once saw a guy with no shoes, a homeless guy, below the last rung on the ladder, but it was Albuquerque and he could get away with it. Then, think of all the shoes you see in the road.... Have you ever seen anyone without shoes or clothes? Homeless people push shopping carts of what we leave behind. Their problems are not material but emotional and psychological. We have a surfeit of wealth now. Imagine if capitalism were given its full head of steam.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That fails to address the fact the _most_ of the schools in the world are run by governments. Most of the nations in the world have unified school systems, not local schools. America rates 17th or 23rd or whatever against the other industrialized nations. The highest literacy rates are in Finland where private schools are _allowed_ only if they teach the government curriculum.

    Yet everyone want to come here for university eduction, where Ohio State and UCLA compete against Yale and Stanford.

    In short, while I whole heartedly agree that private solutions and individual initiatives are superior to centralism and socialism, the how and why of that require some thought and analysis beyond just blaming the government for everything.

    When it comes to government, you might not be to do much about the President and Congress, but you can influence the local school board. You can run for election and be chosen.
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  • Posted by jimslag 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A lot of that was me going through school. I was the brainy kid who sat in back reading the encyclopedias while listening to the teacher, but had the answers to all the teachers questions. This was in the age before computers and calculators, I learned equations and mathematics on a slide rule and I am only 55. When computers came around I was in the military and got in on the ground floor, they were cool and I could make them do all sorts of things. I started on mainframes and went into PC's when they were still young. The military gave me my start and now I work for a utility working on integrated computer controls. I used to hack, it was part of my military duties and a side line outside those duties. I have worked on everything from COBOL and FORTRAN to C+ and C++ with IBM and Apple OS's in between along with other OS's that are long gone and some that are still with us. Computers opened a new world and I participated in it, but it was all out of curiosity and the quest for knowledge.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In the 19th century, if a female was a teacher, and she got married, she could no longer be a teacher.

    People do not have gender; words have gender, people have sex.

    I had a revelation watching CSI: Crime Scene Investigations a few years back. There was a bone the CSI agents found. The coroner identified it as belonging to a black man. What? You mean that skin color is *not* the only physical difference between races??

    Likewise, the difference between women and men is more than simply genitalia. The brains are wired difference. You're not going to overcome 2 million years of evolution by passing nonsensical laws and regulations.

    A study conducted back in the 80s, and quickly pushed into obscurity, tested men and women on their views of "justice".

    The men tended to think that justice lay in punishing bad behavior, and rewarding good behavior, while the women tended to think that justice lay in doing the least harm to the least number of people. I would submit that nowadays most men and women have views on "justice" that are a mixed-up mishmash of these two viewpoints, as their indoctrination conflicts with their instincts.

    The study concluded that the women believed as they did because, in our prehistoric past, women ran the "base camp" while the men were out hunting. They were the most competent and able amongst the children, elderly, and crippled/wounded/sick left behind as the men went out to hunt the game which made us different from gorillas and other apes. Their concern was keeping the lid on this boiling cauldron of emotion and pecking order.

    Men, on the other hand, were out where life got dangerous and short. A man screws up, somebody gets dead. A man takes a risk and brings down game that otherwise might have eluded capture/killing, and the tribe eats good for a change.
    This leads to a mindset which weighs risk, and rewards success and punishes screwups.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e92u5U3A...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3FlbUf...
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  • Posted by wiggys 11 years, 7 months ago
    All of the discussion in the world goes for naught. schools in the usa are as so many have noted run by the government. the government is noted for its excellency in destroying everything it touches hence the school system hence what we all see. all education starts at the to i.e. the universities and where are they today . BLANK
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have to be careful about Christian schools as their teachers all got educated at the same teacher mills at the public school teachers. I have sent 3 children through Christian private schools. All 3 graduated with honors and are in honors college at university now. However I had to fight the school for my son twice. Once a teacher wanted him on Ritalin....I told the administrator that if I ever heard about this sort of thing again I would swear out a warrant with the police for child endangerment for trying to put my kid on drugs. The second time he came home with the website address of Jessie Jackson's son who was at that time a congressman. I asked the principal...what the hell was going on, this guy is a race baiter [who subsequently went to jail for campaign finance violations] who was not even a congressman in my area. It turned out there was a "Scholastic " publication that featured him and the principle tried to blow me off with this as being just normal. I told him If I wanted that sort of crap I would just send him to the public school FOR FREE!!! I asked him to keep in mind just why the heck people like me are paying good money to him for. This is a discussion you cannot easily have with a public school administrator, they have your kids hostage. Bu the way, My son was always more easy going and compliant than he really should have been occasionally getting pushed around by others. I had a standing agreement with him that if he ever got in to a tousle with anyone I would pay him $5.00, $10.00 if he hurt someone. I paid him one time. Money well spent.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Almost entirely wrong.

    it's not political retribution; the left, as part of its attempt to destroy America, created a near-religion of 'equality'. They took one word from one phrase of the Declaration of Independence, removed it from its proper context, and used it to disrupt and destroy a functioning culture.

    Any reversal isn't "payback", it's an attempt, almost instinctive, to return the culture to rationality.

    There were previous male dominated eras which were NOT succeeded by female dominated eras. We often refer to these eras as "golden ages". There were previous female dominated eras which were NOT succeeded by male dominated eras... or anything else.
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  • Posted by RobertFl 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "mooch". that infers intent. As much as one's ultimate position in life is their own making, if one needs "assistance" to survive, they are going to take it. If we as a civilized society are going to provide that we should do such that it actually helps change lives, if none-other-than than the offspring.
    But the gov't encourages not offspring, but little bastards. that is not helping at all.
    If single mothers were able to bring more into the household by being married, I'll bet there'd by fewer single parent homes. How could that one simple thing improve or society? How would little boys be affected by the presence of a male role model (assuming not all males are bad or useless... yet).
    There is nothing wrong with charity. Misguided charity is the problem.
    We hide the shame of being a "welfare case" by issuing credit card looking food stamps. So that everyone gets a sense of "being a winner", or minimally "not a loser".
    Which goes right back to the video, todays world is about feelings, not achievements. Little boys are a distraction with the lack of girlie feelings. We must correct this genetic drift. The very people that push "diversity" are the same ones that wish to neuter the boys for their differences.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Separate accounts from each of my parents. Before I was born, when they only had my two elder brothers, my parents lived in the bottom of a two story duplex. In the upper floor lived a "single mother" as you call them today.

    As my parents struggled to provide winter coats and two pair of jeans and a shirt, each for their two boys, as they bought hamburger as a luxury, she had herself and her two children completely outfitted, courtesy of Uncle Sam. They dined on steak.

    One day my father turned to my mother (curiously, she was more upset relating this to me than he was...) and said:

    "You're a fool."

    "Why?"

    "Because look at all you could have instead of this struggle, if you'd just divorce me."

    People wonder why I use language they consider offensive. I don't consider offensive to insult those whom *I* judge worthy of insult.

    Now, garbage like the [censored] who lived above my parents back then don't even have to take shame in being what they are, because anyone who dares call them what they are is chastised for being offensive, while everyone else misses the point.

    I imagine I'll get called-out by someone for calling this... creature... a welfare parasite.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Hacker Manifesto

    by
    +++The Mentor+++
    Written January 8, 1986

    Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...

    Damn kids. They're all alike.

    But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?

    I am a hacker, enter my world...

    Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...

    Damn underachiever. They're all alike.

    I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."

    Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.

    I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me.. Or thinks I'm a smart ass.. Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...

    Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.

    And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found. "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all...

    Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...

    You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.

    This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

    Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.

    I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyyd_pna...
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  • Posted by 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you mean they can mooch more, because they sure aren't "making" any of the money they're spending.
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  • Posted by RobertFl 11 years, 7 months ago
    Society, or the gov't, has devalued men's role in the world.
    A single mother can make more from the gov't if there is no male in the house.
    the male has been reduced to that of "sperm donor".
    I imagine, that soon, the pleasure of at least being a donor will be replaced by "male order seed catalogs".

    To quote the wise Peter Griffin: "Let's drink til we feel no more feelings!"
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Even women who head labs preferentially hire and pay men in excess of women with equal qualifications."

    There's your flaw... what defines "qualifications"?
    Almost all employment involves some sort of interviewing process, which will reveal personality, leadership, and other traits not covered by formal "qualifications" (like, "Harvard Graduate" or "degree in Climate Science"). Hell, even two people who attended the same classes and/or worked for the same company will have different performance profiles.

    You ever have to hire anyone, Mike?
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    lol I got a chuckle out of that, but...

    Another canard. The problem with the argument of "... women perform the identical work as men for lower wages..." is that it's progressive politics. Or collectivist ideology, whichever you prefer.

    What it does it say, "all women are identical to all other women, and all men are identical with all other men."

    *I* don't perform identical work as my male co-workers with the same job title. Even allowing for the fact that we do similar work, and work that overlaps, the bottom line is, I'm an individual, and I provide a unique quality and quantity of work. That can be a lot, or it can be a little, but it should be judged on an individual basis, not based on genitalia, skin color, club membership, or political affiliation.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If it were true women perform the identical work as men for lower wages, then all profit-oriented companies would be completely staffed by women and the government would be staffed by men.
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  • Posted by jimslag 11 years, 7 months ago
    I saw this video somewhere else and it raises lots of questions but really gives no answers on how. She suggests some things but we know they will never be implemented in our society. Our society is to into being politically correct. No war games, no inequality, no recess to let off steam, no flexibility on the PC. Just watch the news and there is always some article about a kid being suspended for something stupid, or a professor or somebody saying that that viewpoint is not allowed in his or her class. Personally, I like independent schools, such as Christian schools, or Charter Schools which are not under the guidelines of the school systems. I am lucky as I now live in a small rural community and they do not have all the problems of inner city schools. They also have some Christian schools and there are some good independent school districts and alternative schools in the area.
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  • Posted by jpellone 11 years, 7 months ago
    Basically, the problem with schools is everything liberals believe in!!!
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