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  • Posted by Zenphamy 3 years, 4 months ago
    Txs k; It's good to go back and read that post and all the comments and replies and of course the example Posts. A lot of old 'Objectivist friends' or maybe more like 'partners in radical reasoning and fun', to remember and miss.

    When's the last time we remembered the taste of our favorite/not so favorite sandwich or felt a strong breeze up a kilt to only be saved from deserved (or imagined) ridicule by a weighty sporran, all while marveling at astounding whip work (without the actual spank), reading amazing prose and poetry from our own resident laureate, and anticipating the next branch in a post caused by a little innocent misspelling or clever double entendre with a heavy dose of spice. All while swimming and diving in the clear, sparkling, and effervescent waters of an Objectivist pool, with just enough urine detecting dye to give the fools that always show up to piss in other's waters, pause.

    Alas, we may never see the like again. At least not as long as the pool welcomes in those that are amongst the most criticized by Rand herself (rightly so I might add), and continues to buy the cheap urine dye.

    I for one, appreciate the reminder of what drew me to this site, and to be brutally honest, I sometimes like both Mayo and Mustard with a hefty swipe of biting horseradish (or Wasabi if available), ketchup's for french fries and food fights--metaphorically speaking of course.

    Again, thanks for the original and the brush up.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 years, 4 months ago
    Would Ayn Rand really care about ratings? Is it not about saying what needs to be said, for its own sake? Ran did not look for the most thumbs up, she explained her philosophy and let it fall where it might. She believed what she said, and that was the reason for it, period. She did not need approval from outside, she knew what she said made sense.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 4 months ago
      ok, stormi, point taken. just want alot of participation here. post away!
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      • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 years, 4 months ago
        I think as the topic warrants and people feel welcome to participate, there will always be people anxious to exchange ideas. I just think sometimes it gets to be like a high school clique which places too much focus on the vanity points. I love hearing interpretations from other countries and from newbies. Ut makes us think deeper about Rand's philosophy and to refine how we should explain it to newcomers. Rand did not teach us to censor our ideas to pleas anyone else, and anyone should be comfortable posting to either seek interpretation or question another post without feeling they are in a video game where they should go for the points.
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        • Posted by 3 years, 4 months ago
          points and number of comments are an indicator of what is getting read and which posts are engaging to this audience. If points aren't your thing , then so. They are at least some way for participants to let posters know what they appreciate in comments and in posts. I didn't set the site up, only giving pointers on how to best utilize it. If you disagree, fine.
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          • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 years, 4 months ago
            As you said, if you believe that, fine. However, I have read post that said they were giving points to someone because of who posted, a clique thing. I t does not show who read and articles, only who gave points for it. Some people never give points, but may respond to a post either favorably or not. I have given points to people new to the site, simply because of their honest interest or the questions they ask, as encouragemen. but to count up points and brag, just not Rand.
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            • Posted by 3 years, 4 months ago
              You would have to provide me context for that discussion. But, perceptions are also important.
              Why is appreciating the points one has NOT Rand? It can be construed as a measure of positive production. Only new people have honest interest on the site? Your comment smacks as some sort of Christian humility concept.
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              • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 years, 4 months ago
                Sorry, you are drawing conclusions based on false assumptions, no Christianity thing going on here. I just do not feel that some people, who give points based on friendship or to feed the ego of a friend, should be my guide to what is important enough to read. The desire for points to feed one's ego as it were, is not Rand. I said if a person shows genuine interest or a desire to learn more I give a rare point, which should not even be needed by a hardened regulars. .Is not our goal to get even more people more deeply involved in Rand's philosophy and trade thoughts on a friendly basis, not to judge the person or their work?
                You expressed your opinion, I expressed mine on the subject of points. Yet, because I question the need of points, over which I have no control, but which seem awfully important to you, for whatever reason, you are now expressing logical fallacies about me. It this the old attack the person, not the message thing. I detest altruism, Christian or otherwise. I have seen some newcomers berated however, and have give points, which I do not believe in, as a result of that. I want people to stretch and see what Rand was about. That is a self-serving desire to make the world i have to live in more logical So, go happily and enjoy your point system, and ask yourself why you need them to function. I just feel we are grown ups and can make decisions, but you need them, enjoy. I just enjoy all the posts, except when they get way off into personal lives I care nothing about.
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                • Posted by 3 years, 4 months ago
                  please do not assume what my goals are on this site. I've said what they are, if you cared to read them. Your assumption that points are important to me for reasons outside of how the site is set up are in error. "newcomers berated" I have no objective context for this. "bragging about points" I have little context for this as well. I'm working in the site more often than you, for my own reasons, bragging not being one of them. There is nothing stopping you from garnering support against points. There are many on the site who agree with you that points are irrelevant. I think your comments are veiled attempts at criticizing my contributions. If so, state that openly, please.
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                  • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 years, 4 months ago
                    I have no idea who set p the points, it does not matter, you just seem so sensitive to someone saying they are not the end all, period. Why would i waste time trying to deprive the point system from those who want them. I merely said, I don't use them. Sometimes they are reliable, sometimes not. I do use Amazon rating, as the stars come with explanations as to why they were given, and therefore are immensely helpful in evaluating a product I might want to buy.
                    I believe you tried to put an erroneous stated Christian motive on me, without full knowledge. . If your were involved in setting up of the point system, I had no prior knowledge of it. Were you?
                    I did a few times go to a post, because it had in one case at the time a 6 rating. I thought wow, that high, and so short, must be a gem. What it was it turns out was a private exchange between tow members wanting to meet up for drinks and a discussion of what those drinks might be. No discussion of the topic at the top, no philosophy, just a personal message board thing. That soured me on points as a defining way to pick a post to read. I finally went to reading them all in order and enjoying the mix of comments.
                    And hey, Khalling, you were complaining a while back about not having any fun on the site anymore, This is the most you have posted in months. Can't be all bad.
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            • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 4 months ago
              I gave points for the reason you stated! The system is set up to get any discussion SEEN it must get some kind of points. Most don't read the New or HOT sections to find out what's coming up. Ergo force feeding with a point or two helps.
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              • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 years, 4 months ago
                I guess I give points to make the person feel that what they said, no matter how basic, is appreciated and to encourage them to return. I rarely give points to regulars. As to reading, I tend to read all from top to bottom and not pay any attention to ratings. You never know when a gem will be buried because the person is not a known regular. We need to be challenged, and sometimes that will come from an unrated post. It would be silly to read only the rated posts. A few quotes from the "Fountainhead" are important:
                "Never ask people about your work."
                "Integrity is the ability to stand by an idea"
                "...the second-hander's delusion - prestige. A stamp of approval, not his own."
                If you need a guide post rating to tell you what to read, that is your crutch. For me, if a person took the time to post, it might be just what I need to stir my thinking. I will not discriminate by the value system of another as to what I should read. Philosophy is just too important a part of my life to not take self responsibility.
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  • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 4 months ago
    Radical Reasoning was mentioned by Winterwind but that comment is only found at the right under recent comments and not in this section I put it under new Posts under Radical Reasoning I"t's that time again in it's entirety.
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