Article V Constitutional Convention - Dems are ready

Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 11 months ago to Government
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Last week we had a discussion about the pros and cons of a constitutional convention, and UncommonSense correctly stated that the Dems are ready for it. Look what went to my spam e-mail box yesterday.

A Constitutional Amendment to End Citizens United

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There’s no denying it:

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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, then, this would be right up your alley. It integrates in with Excel. Allows you to define a distribution to each variable and tabulates the output variable(s) showing the effect of the variation on those outputs (and showing the sensitivity of those variations as well). If you get the optimization option it will even take one of the outputs and continue to iterate the variables to find an optimal solution (it is a local optimum, as it isn't smart enough to select different starting locations and steps to see if there are other optimums - but that's easy enough to do manually). It's great for engineers.
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  • Posted by $ RimCountry 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To quote a great conservative thinker who has recently sanctioned an Article V remedy to what ails this nation: "Thanks, but I wouldn't want to take the pay cut!"
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My shrugging is hopefully temporary. I am working as a professor at a private university in the meantime. I'm not really ready to quit. My shrug job is good enough that, if things don't get better for the company, even though there is no tenure system here, they will probably have to cart my carcass off campus when I'm in my 80's.
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  • Posted by $ RimCountry 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    PS: Sorry to be so glib... I really am in a hurry to get out of here. What I should have said is that I have already cone to your conclusion: It is indeed better to start anew! I'm done with doing the same old thing and expecting a different result. The only real difference between you and me that I can see is that I'm not done doing. Having said that, gotta go do it!
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a palantir from the Land of Middle Earth. Sorry, it says that it was Made in Taiwan. It must be a replica.
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  • Posted by $ RimCountry 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Welcome to the discussion! I wish I could respond to you point for point, but I'm afraid that will have to wait. Duty calls. I know that's a dirty word around here, but such is my life. I will return, and something tells me you'll be waiting.

    PS: Speaking quickly of Objectivist thought, my assumption was that Galt's Gulch was a place where individuals went when they were ready to quit playing by someone else's rules, not a place to go when they were simply ready to quit.

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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you are indeed capable of succeeding at what you say, you would be a worthy president of America, or perhaps even Atlantis.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wish that I could afford to. But I'm going to go down with the ship, should it do so, fighting to bail it out to the end.
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  • Posted by $ RimCountry 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Everything you've said here is just re-stating the problems. I'm trying to steer the conversation toward solutions. No one ever said it would be an easy solution, and the first to point that out were the Founders. Gotta go.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I actually support all of Mark Levin's Liberty Amendments.

    As for some of the criticisms of the Article V process, I suggest you go back a couple of weeks to see

    http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/77...

    where several of us discussed many of the same issues. UncommonSense's points, in particular, were hard to refute.
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  • Posted by $ RimCountry 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And I suppose I could disagree with that, just to make a point... heh heh... so I will.

    I have to run off... I'm actually on the clock and need to prepare for an upcoming hectic weekend. Will return ASAP, though, refreshed and ready to resume where we left off. Have really enjoyed the exchange. Seriously. Happy Memorial Day!
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  • Posted by $ RimCountry 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Two things:

    1) You still haven't told me what it was about A5 that initially garnered your support.

    2) As your reasons for NOT supporting A5, you offer "blistering criticism" and "very valid reasons" that you couldn't refute.

    I couldn't care less about the criticism... to quote this site's inamorata, "I need no warrant for being, and no word of sanction upon my being. I am the warrant and the sanction." And the Tao said it even more succinctly: If you believe it, be it.

    But I am interested in those arguments you found so unassailable that you chose their logic over the wisdom of the Founders. If you don't actually remember them, a link to that thread will suffice. I'd be more than happy to engage your attackers in your defense, and in that of the future of this country.
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