Article V Constitutional Convention - Dems are ready
Last week we had a discussion about the pros and cons of a constitutional convention, and UncommonSense correctly stated that the Dems are ready for it. Look what went to my spam e-mail box yesterday.
A Constitutional Amendment to End Citizens United
Thanks to the Supreme Court, special interest groups funded by billionaires like the Koch brothers and Karl Rove are spending tens of millions to influence elections.
Help us reach an initial 100,000 supporting a Constitutional Amendment ending Citizens United for good:
Sign Your Name >>
There’s no denying it:
Shady outside groups run by people like Karl Rove and the Koch brothers are spending unprecedented amounts of money to buy elections.
If we don't want our democracy forked over to a handful of ultra-wealthy donors, we need to take action.
ADD YOUR NAME: Join the call for a Constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United and bring transparency back to our elections.
http://dccc.org/Overturn-Citizens-United...
Thank you for standing with us,
Democrats 2014
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(202) 863-1500 | www.dccc.org | Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
A Constitutional Amendment to End Citizens United
Thanks to the Supreme Court, special interest groups funded by billionaires like the Koch brothers and Karl Rove are spending tens of millions to influence elections.
Help us reach an initial 100,000 supporting a Constitutional Amendment ending Citizens United for good:
Sign Your Name >>
There’s no denying it:
Shady outside groups run by people like Karl Rove and the Koch brothers are spending unprecedented amounts of money to buy elections.
If we don't want our democracy forked over to a handful of ultra-wealthy donors, we need to take action.
ADD YOUR NAME: Join the call for a Constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United and bring transparency back to our elections.
http://dccc.org/Overturn-Citizens-United...
Thank you for standing with us,
Democrats 2014
Paid for by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee | 430 South Capitol Street SE, Washington, DC 20003
(202) 863-1500 | www.dccc.org | Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
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I actually have a trauma-free life and am well within my right mind. I was at the first Tea Party meeting in my county. Had you seen how vilified those who shared our values were by the Florida Republican Party, you would understand. The then Republican governor of Florida now is running on the Democrat side and was central to getting John McLame the win in Florida when a loss would have been the end for a Republican unworthy of the name.
That governor's crony went to the point of "excommunicating" my county's elected representative from the Republican Party of Florida. Six months later, that governor's crony then in charge of the Florida Republican Party resigned in disgrace for numerous corruption violations.
The so-called conservative current governor of Florida has done everything possible to support the state university system, while I work for a private university. In fact, one of the state Republican senators made a cronyism deal worth of Orren Boyle to get Florida Polytechnic Institute built on his otherwise not very valuable land. I work at Florida Institute of Technology. Do you not think that they will eventually get confused?
Then there are the repeated attacks from within the Republican Party against its own Tea Party base by John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, etc. on the national level.
One must remember that President Reagan was an anomaly. He was reviled by Ford, Dole, Bush the elder (Remember Voodoo economics!). I was 2 months too young to vote for Reagan in 1984. Consequently I have not had any presidential candidate that I wanted to vote for in a general election that had any credible chance of winning, and I am 47 years old. The two congressmen that I share the most common views with are Justin Amash (MI) and Mike Lee (UT), both of whom who have been ganged up on with lots of national Republican Party money to unseat them.
I have lots of trust for many people in this forum and for this nation's military and veterans. I have no trust for anyone involved in the political process.
And I sympathize with your business-centric view of what drives our economic engine, but have to part ways to this extent: it is business activity, indeed, that determines the amount of steam in the economic locomotive, but it's the administration's regulatory policies that determine how much fuel we are able to throw in the firebox.
They may not deserve all the credit, but when their policies consistently and demonstrably choke off commerce, they definitely deserve the blame.
It is indeed easy for the looters and moochers to block "dangerous" proposals. They have bought enough people off now. I suggest you check your premise as to whether America is worth saving. A couple of weeks ago, I calculated and posted the "share" of the debt that I as a 1%er am expected to pay: $6 million. I will do well to earn that in my lifetime. I call that slavery, and I reject it.
I had an old rescue dog once that had been so badly abused that it literally took us the rest of his life to get him to trust, to understand and believe that we loved him. I wonder what happened to you, jbrenner... I'm no psychologist, but it had to be something much more traumatic than Obamanomics.
(My God... where am I, and what have they done with Galt's Gulch?!?)
By the way, at various times and in numerous places throughout in the Colonial 1600s, printing presses were not only rare, they were illegal. No amount of money could buy the freedom that government today wants to restrict.
When we start down this road, it makes us no better than those who think they know better, and should make all the decisions for all of us.
You "seem" to agree that term limits would bring about a sea change in DC, but I would have hoped for a bit more engagement. It's as if you've numbed your mind, and thought now takes more energy than you can muster.
As for the list of states, thank you... you have in one single post demonstrated to all the fear-mongers how easy it would be to block any "dangerous" proposal that might come out of a COS.
I look at it this way - the Constitution is currently being violated, both as to the letter of the law (O has changed the provisions of O'care more than two dozen times - a function clearly only authorized to be conducted by the legislature, and putting in place individuals required to be confirmed by the Senate under "recess appointments" when the Senate did not consider itself in recess - just two of the most egregious examples), and certainly the spirit of the law - nearly all 10 of the Bill of Rights are violated seemingly at will by governmental agencies. So, if it is mostly an irrelevancy now, and we have an opportunity to plug some of those holes, then I say do it. The only thing that could go wrong is that the de facto status of the governing document of today is codified de jure.
Regardless of whether there is an Article V convention or not, the only way that we can return to the type of nation that we once had is to change the character of those we select for political office, and that will require a change in the basic character of the populace.
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