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Alabama’s chief justice: Buddha didn’t create us so First Amendment only protects Christians

Posted by Maphesdus 9 years, 11 months ago to Culture
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Chief Justice Roy Moore (Republican - Alabama) thinks the United States was supposed to be a Christian theocracy? Wow, that's a whole new level of crazy. Some of the "logic" he uses to support his absurd claim is really quite laughable. Honestly, such twisting of the Constitution should obvious to anyone.
SOURCE URL: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/02/alabamas-chief-justice-buddha-didnt-create-us-so-first-amendment-only-protects-christians/

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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 11 months ago
    So essentially the people who originally came her considered their Christian faith and wrote the Constitution and Laws with that in mind. What so odd about that statement? Considering these Christians setup a society that tolerated all people's beliefs should be a testament to Christianity in the modern times.

    You're making me more openly Christian that I normally am. Conversely your animosity as you cherry-pick headlines (I suspect without reading the context) reveals quite a bit about who and what you detest.

    Please consider the source of your "enlightenment" - http://www.salon.com/2012/06/06/raw_stor...
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    • Posted by Maphesdus 9 years, 11 months ago
      The Founding Fathers were not Christians.
      http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfa...

      As for the source, I generally consider that to be irrelevant. A true claim is a true claim, regardless of its source.
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      • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 11 months ago
        The Founding Fathers were Christian to varying degrees. Remember that the exodus from England was for religious freedom emanating from the rise of the Church of England as the country's sanctioned religion. So you know, this is what our separation of church and state was designed to protect against, not removing religion from government but preventing the state from mandating a specific religion on its people (preserving individual freedom).

        This link is far more credible and more honest than what you posted. Provided you actually read any part of it, your passionate desire to fit history into your viewpoint may change.
        http://christianity.about.com/od/indepen...
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        • Posted by Maphesdus 9 years, 11 months ago
          "not removing religion from government but preventing the state from mandating a specific religion on its people"
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          If religion is not removed from government, then it is impossible to prevent the state from mandating a specific religion on its people. The very act of combining religion with government – in any way, shape or form – is, in and of itself, an act of forcing religion on the people. I frequently hear people say that the First Amendment supposedly means "freedom OF religion, and not freedom FROM religion," but what these people fail to realize is that you cannot have one without the other. The two go hand in hand, and are inseparably connected. If people do not have freedom FROM the religious beliefs of others, then no one can have freedom OF religion.
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          • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 11 months ago
            So you admit the Founding Fathers to a very large degree were religions people? As the article PROVED 24 held seminary or Bible school degrees. And yet these religious people established a system which prevented government from mandating a national religion without banning religion from government (Biblical scripture IS inscribed at many state and federal buildings - including the Supreme Court). So much for your fears of theocracy, yes?

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            • Posted by Maphesdus 9 years, 11 months ago
              Being religious != Being Christian

              Also, while it's true that the combination of religion and government was initially only prohibited at the federal level, the 14th Amendment changed that, and extended the prohibition to the state governments as well.
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              • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 11 months ago
                The 13th,14th and 15th amendments had to do with reparations and the establishment of citizenship privileges after the War between the States. It had everything to do with affirming citizenship for freed slaves and NOTHING to do with religion or the exercise of religion. And yes, the large majority of the Framers "religion" was Christianity. There are certain things in life, despite the current everything is "gray" society we live in, that are historical facts. While I don't know every aspect of American history I do realize when I spell BS and will not hesitate to call it out an backup reality with facts..
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