What's the first thing Ayn Rand would have done if she ruled the world?

Posted by Solver 12 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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Would she have made a long prophetic speech that all must hear? Would she have set rules that all must obey? Would she have appointed a select few in positions of unyielding power? Would she have freed all of mankind?

In my own opinion, I think she would have stepped down from the throne.


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  • Posted by $ jlc 12 years, 3 months ago
    Drink a glass of wine...and do absolutely nothing. For years. And years. Let all of the governments of the world scurry around in paranoiac fear as to what she 'might' do...and just keep anyone else from occupying the throne of the world.

    Jan
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  • Posted by conscious1978 12 years, 3 months ago
    Is there a term for when a hypothetical question is so fundamentally flawed?
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    • Posted by 12 years, 3 months ago
      The answer to the question above may not be so obvious to those who have only heard of Ayn Rand via social sources.

      I hope the question causes some people use their minds and question what they may have been told. The hypothetical question itself would never have occurred. It's somewhat like asking,
      “What would people think of Obama if he were completely honest?”
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    • Posted by $ Snezzy 12 years, 3 months ago
      I don't know the term, but I do remember hearing her reject attacks on her theory of ethics when the attacker posed a hypothetical "lifeboat" question. Hypothetical situations do not define ethics--or anything else.

      Supposedly Napolean was once asked, "You are a great general. What would you do in this [hastily sketched] hypothetical situation?" He replied, "I am a great general because I would not get into a situation like that." (On the other hand, Napolean DID try to invade Russia from the west.)
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 12 years, 3 months ago
    You would have to kidnap her, threaten her family, and torture her trying to get her to take charge of everything.
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    • Posted by 12 years, 3 months ago
      Maybe just give her the role of economic dictator and see what happens.
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      • Posted by $ Snezzy 12 years, 3 months ago
        Alan was Chairman of the Fed for a while. Some contend that he helped postpone an inevitable collapse.
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        • Posted by 12 years, 3 months ago
          Back then Alan and other economic planners were “heroes.” “Saviors” of the American economy. That is until the reality of inflation hit and the money printing drug was withdrawn. Now most people seem to see him as more as a villain causing that extra high inflation that many suffered though.
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          • Posted by plusaf 12 years, 3 months ago
            I was going to ask if any of the Greenspan-defenders were actually AROUND when his policies were being followed.

            It seemed as if every time he opened his mouth, he scared the crap out of Wall Street and the Business Community.

            When he would talk, my reaction became "Alan, STFU!" Better to say nothing than scare the crap out of everyone!
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  • Posted by Temlakos 12 years, 3 months ago
    I can't speak for Ayn Rand, and I wouldn't even try.

    Instead I'll tell you what I would do in a spot like that, while best applying Ojbectivist principles.

    I wouldn't even try to keep a world government going. No elections, no judicial appointments, nothing like that. Instead I would give all the enforcement personnel, maybe ninety days' notice. Meaning at that time they shall cease to be employees of the State, and will need to find employment as private security guards, mercenary soldiers, or the like. And I would order that, effective immediately, any restrictions on the ownership or carrying of weapons was abolished.

    And at the end of the ninety days, the State itself should cease to be.
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    • Posted by jconne 12 years, 3 months ago
      Recommendation - read C. Bradley Thompson's book, "John Adams and the Spirit of Liberty". After I read it a contacted Brad and thanked him for the first book I read that made sense of the term "Political Science". That refers to John Adams' research and reasoning. It's a fascinating history and philosophy lesson too. Adams, as a young man choosing the law as his profession, set two questions to answer: 1) What is the nature of man?; and 2) What is the architecture of government comparable with that nature? (my paraphrasing as I best recall). The science part is his research on the known history of governments and his analysis of the alternatives and their consequences. From that we get our tripartite government with balancing branches. While we have lost the common understanding of so much of the founding principles - to the extent it is embodied in the US Constitution and understood by those sworn to uphold it - we have maintained our freedom - though far from what should be. This give us time to revive an age of reason through our universities and public debate. That's why I support ARI.

      Ayn Rand also wrote clearly on the necessity and role of government - see "Capitalism, the Unknown Ideal".

      Long ago at Univ. of Chicago I had an informal debate with a now well known anarchist after understanding that you need one law of the land that is simple, understandable, non-contradictory and not contradicted by another such body. This provides for the possibility of objectively resolving disputes that will always arise in a society and protecting individual rights in the face of attempts at coercion.
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    • Posted by Joy1inchrist 12 years, 3 months ago
      I like that answer ... alot! Not only would it serve yourself, but all of mankind! Many, many inherent problems and obstacles to overcome, which naturally goes without saying (and which could defeat your noble desire) ... but, nonetheless a very noble pursuit.
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      • Posted by Temlakos 12 years, 3 months ago
        Any other course of action would constitute fraud on my part. Any person who says he can think for seven or eight billion souls, is guilty of fraud against those eight billions. And anyone who really believes that, defrauds himself first and tries to defraud you second.

        Only one Person has any business running a one-world State like that. I'm sure most people here don't believe in Him. Just remember this: I could yield to Him. I could not yield to any other man, nor would I dare keep that job myself.
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        • Posted by Joy1inchrist 12 years, 3 months ago
          Likely, an accurate assessment ... that most "here" don't believe in Him. And, absolutely accurate that only one Person has any business running this world! I, for one, follow Him, Temlakos ....
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      Posted by Hiraghm 12 years, 3 months ago
      Which State are we talking about? And what about the other 49 States?

      And while you're getting rid of State employees, what about all of the federal employees?

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  • Posted by KosherGuy 12 years, 3 months ago
    On the one hand, given the mood and direction of the country (world) that exists today, a person would have to be insane to run for U.S. President, let alone Ruler of the World. I believe that we are entering an era where inertia will take us over the brink to insanity with dire results for all.
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  • Posted by Maphesdus 12 years, 3 months ago
    "The punishment which the wise suffer who refuse to take part in the government, is to live under the government of worse men."
    ~ Plato
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    • Posted by Lucky 12 years, 3 months ago
      I have seen this in industry. A good worker, competent, enjoys their work, gets a promotion offer. They turn it down wanting to stay where they are. Often, the good worker then suffers under a bad manager. An important test of a good manager is restraint, nothing beats a well motivated self-actualizing workforce. Same in the public area, but the big talkers seldom know when to stop.
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  • Posted by gtebbe 12 years, 3 months ago
    I cannot address AR's position without including that she knew as well as others that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Men are not by nature angels. This fact is ignored by our magical fearless genius the divine immaculated tyrant BHO.

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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 12 years, 3 months ago
    Interesting thought experiment. Having "rulers" is a deeply embedded meme in human societies--just think of all the stories and fairytales of princes and kings, princesses and heroes. Its roots are in tribal living, with chiefs and alpha males running the affairs of the tribe. Wanting to conquer the world is another powerful meme sitting at the apex of human motivations. People recognize the individuals with the highest qualities and willingly endow them with power over their own existences, whether by acclamation or election or, more perniciously, by belief in and obedience to an invisible superpower.

    Ayn Rand was not an anarchist. She thought that there is a place and a need for very limited government that would be charged with managing the infrastructure of a society of mutually consenting individuals. Judge Narragansett is mentioned as revising certain flaws in the Constitution, without spelling them out. I think Rand would have taken the Sherman out ("If nominated, I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve.") .

    A better question is, would she have endorsed any one human to be the top administrator of a government? Would she even see a need for nation-states, considering that there should be free trade among all individuals and no restraint on their free and voluntary interactions? The prime directive -- "I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I shall never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine"--is pretty much the only rule needed. All other principles of interaction build from that. (Yes, in today's gender-equality culture, "man" should be taken to include all persons.)

    I respectfully suggest that an interest in having Rand rule the world comes from that same age-old notion that someone considered superior, whether in wisdom or in prowess, should be elevated to the position of head honcho or chief. It's a Darwinian process of selection of the fittest, a natural eugenics of blood and brain. It's hard-wired into our DNA. We want only the best leading us, using their wisdom to assure the prosperity and happiness of the population. Unfortunately, anyone who wants that job is thereby disqualified.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 12 years, 2 months ago
    I don't think she would have stepped up in the first place, unless it was to say 'You're all on your own now - make the most of your life. Use your mind.'
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  • Posted by flanap 12 years, 3 months ago
    The question isn't if she ruled, but how she would get there...such a process would answer the question posed.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 12 years, 3 months ago
    Rand, of course, wouldn't come anywhere near the "rule the world" statement. But, I am so weary of the idiocy that seems to be ruling the world at present I fantasize that an all-powerful alien race lands on earth and forces everyone to read her books, including the polemics, then flies away. But I'm afraid that even then, many humans being so used to the comfort of slavery, that they wouldn't respond.
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  • Posted by wiggys 12 years, 3 months ago
    She may have set I motion, at least I hope so, the ground work for someone to use her ideas to I hate the word rule the world, but maybe you know what I mean. her ideas ruling the direction the people of the world go in. wishful thinking on my part.
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