When the laws aren't really laws

Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 11 months ago to Legislation
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I would say let them - if there were a way to keep the problems they would inflict on themselves restricted to California.

The incredible thing to me is that a law has no force unless it is enforced equally. The Federal Government should be immediately telling California this is illegal. Instead, what do we get from the DoJ?

[chirping crickets]
SOURCE URL: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/05/12/after-lawyers-ca-bill-seeks-to-grant-undocumented-immigrants-licenses-in-30/


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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 11 months ago
    “Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago
    I wonder if the licensing exams are being given in multiple languages? If so, this is merely going to hasten the Balkanisation of the US. You'll find entire communities that have absolutely no contact with cultures other than their own. This used to be the case with places like Chinatown and Koreatown, but those were generally small and limited. Without a common culture across the US, we will break apart.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 11 months ago
    “Quod Principi plaevit habet legis vigorem”
    ― Niccolò Machiavelli
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago
      Nice. Hadn't seen that one, but absolutely appropriate.
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      • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 11 months ago
        I read "The Prince" after reading a science fiction short, "That share of glory", because it contained one of my favorite quotes after Montrose's Toast*:
        “God is not willing to do everything, and thus take away our free will and that share of glory which belongs to us.”
        ― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

        Once in awhile I'll go looking for new (to me) Machiavelli quotes. Here's where I got that one:
        http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/1...


        Some more I find currently relevant:

        “The promise given was a necessity of the past: the word broken is a necessity of the present.”
        ― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

        “One should never fall in the belief that you can find someone to pick you up.”
        ― Niccolò Machiavelli

        “But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.”
        ― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

        "Anyone who studies present and ancient affairs will easily see how in all cities and all peoples there still exist, and have always existed, the same desires and passions. Thus, it is an easy matter for him who carefully examines past events to foresee future events in a republic and to apply the remedies employed by the ancients, or, if old remedies cannot be found, to devise new ones based upon the similarity of the events. But since these matters are neglected or not understood by those who read, or, if understood, remain unknown to those who govern, the result is that the same problems always exist in every era.”
        ― Niccolò Machiavelli

        *Montrose's Toast: "He either fears his fate too much, or his desserts are small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all."

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        • Posted by Maphesdus 9 years, 11 months ago
          "Anyone who studies present and ancient affairs will easily see how in all cities and all peoples there still exist, and have always existed, the same desires and passions. Thus, it is an easy matter for him who carefully examines past events to foresee future events in a republic and to apply the remedies employed by the ancients, or, if old remedies cannot be found, to devise new ones based upon the similarity of the events. But since these matters are neglected or not understood by those who read, or, if understood, remain unknown to those who govern, the result is that the same problems always exist in every era.”
          ― Niccolò Machiavelli

          Is this quote from "The Prince"?
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  • Posted by Maphesdus 9 years, 11 months ago
    Well, I supposed they could always pass another law stating that no one, immigrants or native citizens, is required to obtain a social security number. If we're opposed to the Federal government having control of us, wouldn't we want to do away with social security numbers entirely anyway?
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